July 2nd IFA Signing Thread

[DuckDuckGose]

 

Is he supposed to be any good?

[imsorry4beatinU]

 

he will go to the Cubs..book it!

[ace3113]

he will go to the Cubs..book it!

 

I don't know if he's anygood, the only thing I could find on him was a boxscore from 2009 for some youth tournament. I wonder who still has money in the pool, since he counts against it.

[imsorry4beatinU]

I don't know if he's anygood, the only thing I could find on him was a boxscore from 2009 for some youth tournament. I wonder who still has money in the pool, since he counts against it.

 

He will go to the rangers. Looks like Cubs are just slightly over their slot and Rangers are taking the penalty anyways, why not add another right.

[imsorry4beatinU]

Ace, do you have infos on the two unknown guys Jays signed in Jesus Ramirez and Miguel Almonte?

[ace3113]

Ace, do you have infos on the two unknown guys Jays signed in Jesus Ramirez and Miguel Almonte?

 

No sorry. But something will eventually pop up and I'll post it or send it to you when it does.

[imsorry4beatinU]

No sorry. But something will eventually pop up and I'll post it or send it to you when it does.

 

Thanks man, your always clutch!

[ace3113]

Found a couple of tweets about the two unranked prospects the Jays signed Tuesday: Miguel Almonte and Jesus Ramirez.

 

 

Edited July 4, 2013 by ace3113

[DuckDuckGose]

Seems like AA and co did alright, definitely wasn't a great signing period though.

[ace3113]

Seems like AA and co did alright, definitely wasn't a great signing period though.

 

Ismael Cruz operates a little differently from how Paddy did with the Jays. He's known for finding unheralded guys (particularly pitchers) who turn into good prospects. Hopefully they got a lot of potential hard throwing arms among their 14 signings. Gudino has a very good chance to hit IMO (similar to though not quite at the level of Barreto). I would have preferred Nestor Tejada (Astros) to Freddy Rodriguez, as Tejada has shown more with the bat at this stage, but Rodriguez has better tools (speed + raw power) and thus projects more, so I can see IC's thought process there.

[DuckDuckGose]

Ismael Cruz operates a little differently from how Paddy did with the Jays. He's known for finding unheralded guys (particularly pitchers) who turn into good prospects. Hopefully they got a lot of potential hard throwing arms among their 14 signings. Gudino has a very good chance to hit IMO (similar to though not quite at the level of Barreto). I would have preferred Nestor Tejada (Astros) to Freddy Rodriguez, as Tejada has shown more with the bat at this stage, but Rodriguez has better tools (speed + raw power) and thus projects more, so I can see IC's thought process there.

 

I've read some speculation that the Gudino signing was posturing for next year. Apparently Gullen has a very strong class coming out of his academy.

[imsorry4beatinU]

I've read some speculation that the Gudino signing was posturing for next year. Apparently Gullen has a very strong class coming out of his academy.

 

So next season will be very deep in MLB draft , IFA and NBA draft! 2014 is the type to stock the prospect pools?

[DuckDuckGose]

So next season will be very deep in MLB draft , IFA and NBA draft! 2014 is the type to stock the prospect pools?

 

Not too sure about the whole IFA class what i specifically heard was about Guillen's academy. Ace would probably know though.

[imsorry4beatinU]

Lets say next year it's a deep pool of IFA. Would you spend 25-30 million dollars on prospects and take the penalty? or is that bad business?

[Deadpool]

Lets say next year it's a deep pool of IFA. Would you spend 25-30 million dollars on prospects and take the penalty? or is that bad business?

 

The penalty is "no good prospects next year, and you spend double what you actually spent as a tax"... If you've got $60M that you can play with, I'd make that move if you felt it was getting the right players.

[imsorry4beatinU]

The penalty is "no good prospects next year, and you spend double what you actually spent as a tax"... If you've got $60M that you can play with, I'd make that move if you felt it was getting the right players.

 

sorry, I didn't make it clear. I meant 25-30 million dollars total, and the next year with penalty, you could get a discount from trainers you used your money on the previous year.

[DuckDuckGose]

Lets say next year it's a deep pool of IFA. Would you spend 25-30 million dollars on prospects and take the penalty? or is that bad business?

 

According to Ben Badler of Baseball America [1];

 

Penalties With No International Draft

• 0-5 percent over pool: 75 percent tax on the pool overage.

• 5-10 percent over pool: 75 percent tax on the pool overage. Team won’t be allowed to sign a player for more than $500,000 during the 2014-15 signing period.

• 10-15 percent over pool: 100 percent tax on the pool overage. Team won’t be allowed to sign a player for more than $500,000 during the 2014-15 signing period.

• 15 percent or more over pool: 100 percent tax on the pool overage. Team won’t be allowed to sign a player for more than $250,000 during the 2014-15 signing period.

 

[1] http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/5/31/4383420/mlb-international-draft-2014-mlb-draft

 

Took me awhile to find so I thought I'd share.

 

For the right guy I;d consider it. If you have what you feel is the next Roberto Alomar available pay what you need to get him. I think those type of players don't come around that often though and when they do lots of teams will be in on them.

[Deadpool]

sorry, I didn't make it clear. I meant 25-30 million dollars total, and the next year with penalty, you could get a discount from trainers you used your money on the previous year.

 

If you have 25-30 million dollars total, and you think that you can get $30M worth of future players for $15M (because you're spending double) and you think next year looks bad... then sure, maybe you do it.

 

You'd have to be pretty confident in the current crop, and that the crop for next year would be bad though.

[DuckDuckGose]

If you have 25-30 million dollars total, and you think that you can get $30M worth of future players for $15M (because you're spending double) and you think next year looks bad... then sure, maybe you do it.

 

You'd have to be pretty confident in the current crop, and that the crop for next year would be bad though.

 

I just wouldn't do it for a bunch of okay guys. The 100% tax makes that $25M-30M more like $50-$60M and being limited to only $250k guys for two years is crazy given the success rate of even the high bonus kids.

 

If there is a rare talent, bid what it takes to get them.

[imsorry4beatinU]

According to Ben Badler of Baseball America [1];

 

 

 

[1] http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2013/5/31/4383420/mlb-international-draft-2014-mlb-draft

 

Took me awhile to find so I thought I'd share.

 

For the right guy I;d consider it. If you have what you feel is the next Roberto Alomar available pay what you need to get him. I think those type of players don't come around that often though and when they do lots of teams will be in on them.

 

IMO, those Penalties aren't even that harsh. Say you take the penalty every 2 years and you get 5-6 top guys or more. You restock your system and you could easily do a wink wink nudge nudge with trainers and pay some of his guys 250k next year when they are worth more.

[imsorry4beatinU]

I just wouldn't do it for a bunch of okay guys. The 100% tax makes that $25M-30M more like $50-$60M and being limited to only $250k guys for two years is crazy given the success rate of even the high bonus kids.

 

If there is a rare talent, bid what it takes to get them.

 

I thought it was only for the next year of IFA.

[DuckDuckGose]

I thought it was only for the next year of IFA.

 

From what I posted;

 

• 15 percent or more over pool: 100 percent tax on the pool overage. Team won’t be allowed to sign a player for more than $250,000 during the 2014-15 signing period.

 

Seems like 2 years to me..

[flafson]

From what I posted;

 

 

 

Seems like 2 years to me..

 

That could also mean a complete 1 year, specially since they have rules about age of player between x-y dates, technically a period of 2014-2015 could be 1 year.

[imsorry4beatinU]

From what I posted;

 

 

 

Seems like 2 years to me..

 

No its only one. This year its 13/14 period, Next year its 14/15 period. Only one year to have a limit of 250 k isn't that bad when you would have gotten 6 + highly ranked players.

[DuckDuckGose]

No its only one. This year its 13/14 period, Next year its 14/15 period. Only one year to have a limit of 250 k isn't that bad when you would have gotten 6 + highly ranked players.

 

If that's the case I'd do it.

[Angrioter]

Padres signed RHP Mayky Perez US$635,000 and OF Luis Asunción US$350,000.

[ace3113]

Padres signed RHP Mayky Perez US$635,000 and OF Luis Asunción US$350,000.

 

About 1mm for both. That's gotta be considered a steal. Asuncion is going to be good IMO.

[imsorry4beatinU]

We don't have anymore money eh?

[ace3113]

Friggin Cubs man!

 

Jen-Ho Tseng, Cubs Close To Deal

By Charlie Wilmoth

 

The Cubs are close to a deal with Taiwanese pitcher Jen-Ho Tseng, MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez reports. Sanchez expects that Tseng's bonus will cost the Cubs a little over $1.5MM. Sanchez had tweeted on Monday that the Cubs had emerged as the favorite to sign Tseng.

 

Sanchez ranked Tseng the No. 29 international prospect. The 18-year-old Tseng has a fastball that reaches 95 MPH, along with a curve and slider. He was the youngest player on Chinese Taipei's WBC roster.

 

The Cubs have already signed Gleyber Torres for $1.7MM, Jefferson Mejia for $850K, Erling Moreno for $650K and Johan Matos for $270K, and they have an agreement with top outfield prospect Eloy Jimenez for $2.8MM. That means they will have exceeded their $5.52MM international bonus pool even before the Tseng signing.

 

The Cubs can still trade for the right to spend more bonus pool money, but Sanchez notes that they can only do so up to a 50 percent increase over their original $4.56MM pool. If they traded up to the maximum amount, that would leave them with a bonus pool of $6.84MM. Assuming Tseng signs for an even $1.5MM and that the Jimenez deal is completed, the Cubs will spend $7.7MM just on Jimenez, Torres, Tseng, Mejia, Moreno and Matos.

 

If the Cubs exceed their pool by 10 to 15%, they cannot sign an international prospect for more than $500K during the 2014-15 signing period. If they exceed it by more than 15%, they cannot sign a player for more than $250K. In either case, they would have to pay a 100% tax on this year's overage. It now appears very likely that the Cubs will exceed their 2013-14 bonus pool by more than 15%, which may be a plan they developed on the fly -- they recently traded for more pool space in the Scott Feldman and Ronald Torreyes deals, and it's hard to see why they would have done that if they planned on paying the stiffest penalty for exceeding their pool.

Edited July 10, 2013 by ace3113

[Atothe]

Friggin Cibs man!

 

f*** they are aggressive this year. That system is coming along