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No. Just asked the one question.

Yo Bro! Red Suxxx suck!!!!! In 1995 when Mo Vaughn won the MVP I called him a fat-ass. I don't know if he heard or not.

It's a 10/10 thread with a lot of history. Think the Red Sox are complete losers? Fine opinion, back it up with a story about where you were when they blew it in Game 6. I didn't follow baseball yet, but a lot of my friends around here did, great history talking to them about hyper-ventilating then trying to kill themselves in their dorm rooms. Did you follow the 1988 Red Sox? Do you know someone who did? Or do you know _NOTHING_ about the fantastic legendary 1988 Red Sox who hit .283 as a team. Did you ever watch Wade Boggs? Or Manny Ramirez/David Ortiz back to back in their prime? If so tell us why they are losers. This board isn't only for the Yo-Bros. I know some wish it was. 10/10 Dream Blue Jays message board thread. Post1 - Red Sux SUUUCCKKKK! Post2 - Yo Bro. They sure do! Easy to read. No history, no data, no stories, no substance, great stuff for 2026 human society.

Before they ruined the minor leagues Kirk (19) .354 .450 .600 Blue Field West Virginia Vlad (17) .275 .350 .450 Blue Field, (18) .330 .430 .480 Lansing Michigan Bo (19) .380 .450 .650 Lansing Michigan After they runied the minor leagues Bonilla (18) - .180 .260 .260 - Florida Complex 11:00 AM league Sanchez (18) - .140 .160 .140 - Florida Complex 7:00 PM league Jo Jo Parker(19) - .200 .360 .340 - Florida Complex 7:00 PM league Not good down there. Need to re-establish normal minor league baseball and get the boys fresh air and see the land, real land.

They probably don't ever leave the complex and have an apartment with their team mates right by the complex. They get sent down to the rookie league they don't go anywhere but play at 10:00 am instead of 7:00 pm. Get called back up from Rookie league they don't go anywhere either, just play at 7:00 instead of 10:00. Doubt it is much of a culture shock and they probably have nothing to worry about other than the fact they are 3 for their last 30 with 17 ks and a walk. Used to be they'd send them to Bluefield or Lansing. That's culture shock. Nice people but all of a sudden in rural Michigan or West Virginia riding buses all night. No clue where the hell you are, no one speaks spanish or even close to it. You have a lot to worry about, and gets mind off a little slump. Come to think of it no young Jays teenage hitting prospect has worked out since they moved A and Rookie to the Florida complex, probably not a healthy vibe there. Need some fresh air. Mountain air. Michigan air.

Since 2015 Winning Culture - Blue Jays 98/100 Red Sox 12/100 Formula (Proprietary Blue Jays Message Board winning formulat) 2026 wins - Red Sox 16 Blue Jays 16 Players remaining since 2018 - Red Sox 0 Jays 0 World Championships - Red Sox 1 Jays 0 ALCS - Jays 3 Red Sox 2 ALDS - Red Sox 4 Jays 3 Division - Red Sox 3 Jays 2 Wild Card - Red Sox 2 Jays 3

So the 2015 to 2025 Jays are basically the exact experience of the 70s, 80s, and 90s Red Sox losers? Good teams. Some thrills in the playoffs, not able to close. Occasional 70 win down years. Jose Bautista, Vladimir, Donaldson, George Springer and the rest of you... according to the official Blue Jays Message Board definition of loser, you are all losers in the style of the 75 through 2003 Red Sox!

It depends what you mean by 'losers'. Already I made far too long post on this but they have had great success in the last 50 years corresponding to the Jays existance. 39 winning seasons, 11 losing, a lot of great players, a lot of great stories, a lot of great teams. They had 86, and I think the Bucky Dent thing in late 70s, and maybe some other 95 win teams that couldn't close it. So if the definition of 'loser' is like 'loser' in the 2025 Blue Jays sense of loser (or the 1987 Blue Jays definition of loser), then they are losers. But they haven't been a "non-winning, non-successful as a franchise" since at least maybe 60 years? Now if you are talking about the Great depression, I get it. I totally get it, not many of us will remember those teams (maybe Jim Canuck?) but the market crashed, the red sox were winning 50 a year, while Ruth was hitting more homers than they won games... yeah Red Sox were losers just about until Ted Williams came along.

Which decades? During my lifetime which is similar to the Blue Jays lifetime it would be easier to report on the Red Sox losing seasons because their winning season have been many and most https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/index.shtml. They had losing seasons in 83, 92, 93, 94, 97, 12, 14, 15, 20, 22, 23. That is 50 years. That is 39 winning 11 losing by my count. They have have 5 American League Championships and 4 rings in that time. 86 was a legendary year a pitch away from a ring. The Blue Jays greatest is Tony Fernandez, or Carlos Delgado, or maybe Jose Bautista all with around 36 WAR. They would beat (and just beat) Xander Bogaertz (35 WAR or so) as a franchise icon. In my lifetime Red Sox fans, in addition to 1986 and the four rings cheered for position players Nomar (41 WAR), Mookie (42 WAR), Jim Rice (somewhat a peer to Barfield and Bell) 49 WAR, Pedroi 51 WAR, Big Papi Ortiz 52 WAR, Dwight Evans (67 WAR) and Boggs (72 WAR). On the pitching side they had Clemens and Pedro who beat out Stieb and Haladay. They also got to cheer on Manny Ramirez good years, though he is just outside their top 20 WAR with 33 (but 65 lifetime or so, so a legend to be sure). It;s the 50th anniversary of the Blue Jays. So to honor it I bring a new stat CJFF (cumulative joy for fans) In 50 years cumulative Joy for fans on a completely made up scale eyeballing great players to watch, competitive seasons, playoff wins and rings. Red Sox - 1578 Blue Jays - 712

Only 58 at bats I think. Plus this is at Dunnedin. Bonilla did this in the even lower level FCL which I assume Sanchez will be sent to shortly if not as we speak. Hopefully he turns it around soon.

On a 5 year time scale Jays are ahead just a bit... Since 2015? Probably about even... though I guess a 108 win season with a ring puts the Red Sox ahead. Since 2000? Red Sox way ahead. Since 1977 (birth of BJs) - Red Sox a bit ahead. Close. If Red Sox win a World Series before Jays do it will be very easy to create "Red Sox 5 rings in 2 generations, Jays 0" narrative, and the Red Sox are a classic franchise while the Jays in there with Arizona. If Jays win a World Series before Red Sox next it will be easy to create a narrative that they are about even.

If after all that it doesn't work out by 2033, or he gets caught using fertility drugs, then he will have to get a real job with Orelvis.

He'll have to report to work at 7:00 in the morning to play in the 10:00 game at the Florida Complex League. After a couple of years there he will come back just like Bonilla and do OK in Dunnedin, on pace to get to Buffalo by 2032 and maybe a cup of coffee like Orelvis (though even Orelvis handled everything great until New Hampshire).

Blue Jays message board franchise rankings for this decade 1. LA Dodgers - give them credit. 3 rings in the 2020s 2. Toronto Blue Jays - Second for Ohtani, Second in the World Series and Second in our franchise Rankings. ... 11. NY Yankees - Solid team every year. ... 29. Colorado Rockies - Can PD turn it around? 30 Boston Red Sox - worst run franchise in history of baseball. Trading Babe Ruth now second worst sports trade in history after Betts trade.

Somewhat ballsy, you are like a random Red Sox get the wild card with 84 wins, and Crochet comes back and a bunch of fluky happens and Red Sox get a ring and Franklin Arrias looks awesome and complete Joy and love and greatness in Boston, away from looking silly. If Arrias hits more homeruns than Vlad and Red Sox win world series or deep playoff run you will be very sad and lose a lot of cred. Risky statement.

Since they traded Mookie Betts they have won 10 games less than the Jays, 1 less playoff appearance. Maybe 7 playoff game wins, vs Jays 10. Good lord. Math - Jays and Red Sox about even since Mookie Betts trade using simple numerics (total wins, playoff appearances, playoff wins). Jays a bit better Blue Jays Message Board - Blue Jays pinnacle of winning culture built around super star Vladimir Arraez Jr for 500 million. Red Sox worse run franchise in baseball.

We had many teams that should have at least had a competitive playoff spot race starting with 95. Talent on the 95 was unreal, with most of the players having several good seasons left (Alomar, White, Olerud, Molitor, Delgao, Green, Shannon Stewart, Gonzlez, David Cone, Pat Hentgen, Al Leiter, Juan Guzman). The story of the 95 Blue Jays is very over-looked. You replay that team with their average 93-98 performance and they are great. Like all-time bizarre under-performance, and some mess up with young players who Cito didn't "trust". Many years like that. Some rough ones to be sure where interbrew didn't support the payroll, but just tonnes of slow starts and under-performance. Like in 2006 they really went all-in and had a bunch of great seasons but somehow scored 800 runs when they should have had 900.

Red Sox fans are just so joyful right now watching their teenage prospects hit. I know quite a few and watch them run to their computers in the morning to check MILB box scores to see how the teenagers did in A. Or how big a game 20 year old Arrias had last night. It's a thrill for them. They love it. Full of hope watching teenagers hit. And the big league team just crawled out of last place only 1.5 games out of WC3. Even that fat guy who nearly had a heart attack is feeling Joy watching the Sox and their minor league teen age stars.

Everyone loves to beat them up. They are less of a mess than the Jays right now arguably. I don't know. Both 16-21 I guess. If you want to go back 5 years Red Sox and Jays are within 10 wins. Red Sox 2 playoff, Jays 3. Jays a World Series appearance. Red Sox an ALCS. Go back 10 years Red Sox way ahead. Go back 30 years Red Sox completely dominate. Go back 50 years Red Sox better (4 rings to 2 both with heartbreaking 7 game WS losses) Board irrationally hates the Red Sox. Great, great organization. Have some good prospects that actually hit. Red Sox Young Players hit .300 .400 .500 as teenagers or 20 - (Arrias, Justin Gonzales) Like their young players actually function. Not hitting 190 with a .320 OPS. Good organization. Board is just talking nonsense when dissing Red Sox.

We won't be facing the Rays though.... Byes NY 106-56, Seattle - 91-71 Wild Card - W2 Texas 90-72 plays at W1 Tampa Bay 104-58 Wild Card - W3 Toronto 79-83 plays at D3 Chicago White Sox 80-82 Who will White Sox pitch?

Seen this show time and time again. What did Goerge W. Bush say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice... shame on you too? I can't remember. No such thing as a hitting prospect until they hit well at full season ball for 6 weeks. No such thing as a pitching prospect ever!

Just seems to me college stats, dominican league stats and scouting don't totally correlate with performance as much as full season stats season to season correlate with each other. Anecdotal but you can look at a guys Dunnedin stats and if you read them right you can predict Vancouver stats and how they will progress. You can look a guys Dominican/College Stats, scouting reports, draft position, and they mean s*** until they prove they hit in Dunnedin for 2 months. Jo Jo Parker does have lots of walks and steals though. Like a 20-25 k/bb or something. I think that is something positive as opposed to guys we''ve seen come through and put up a 3 to 30 bb/k (Bonilla I think at the even lower complex team).

Cursed season. Even this thread isn't updated much as all the minor leagers have their averages crash to .200. In the old days of Bo, and Vlad and Kirk and Moreno and even Biggio bumped 5 times a night with their latest accomplishment.