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Team isn't putting money on the books down the line. They put the money in year to year in an safe investment that will mature at the right amount when it is due. It's basically just bond trading. Still an advantage for rich team, because poor team doesn't want to risk bond prices going up. At least that is my understanding. Actually curious what kind of loop holes there are. Like can the Dodgers invest in municipal bonds? Can the Blue Jays invest in Canadian bonds? What are the rules for the escrow account ? We don't know what the Dodgers will pay for Ohtani's contract because we don't know what interest will be year to year.

My understanding (correct me if I am wrong) is that only rich teams would do this, because the risk is interest rate fall and they have put almost all of the 70 million in. I believe that when the 10 year rate was 5% it was 46 million they had to put in, now it's probably more like 53 or something, and if a crisis happened and 10 year fell (it fell to below 1 during Covid) they'd have to put 67 million in or something.

I have to imagine posting on this board is at about the selfishness level of Fortnite,. Hope everyone has a decent amount of money left over at the end of the month, and the family is well fed and warm. Little Johny - Daddy can I get a Fortnite subscription for christmas to get more skins and emotes. Daddy - Shut up. That shits expensive. I am not paying 10 bucks a month for that garbage. Little Johny - That's OK Daddy. We can play catch instead of Fortnight. Daddy - SHUTUP! I am trying to post. These f***ers on Jays Centre are out of their minds. Little Johny - I'm hungry. Above probably not really true though I guess. Many of the posters here have excellent political skills and hold down 350,000 k or more jobs at which they don't do much except just post here all day. And little Johny gets to be on 3 different 10k a year baseball teams.

That's not the comparison. Comparison would be 1. 60k for non-profit, 2. 100k for corporation but give 40k to the non-profit. (and hopefully tax law is ethical enough that the 40k you give to non-profit is not taxed). Maybe for certain reasons 1 is still better. I mean realistically nobody is going to do 2. because of human nature with money at that scale. Very difficult to give away 40% of your salary. However if you really wanted to that's the two choices.

You have to have the right personality for option 2. Take things calm. Be OK with DL stints to rest-up. Cheer your team-mates on even when you aren't in the game. Cheer, Cheer, Cheer. Be positive. Listen to the coaches. Cheer for Justin Bruihl types when they take your spot. Don't secretly cheer for their failure. Don't pout. Don't go home. One day maybe you don't make the playoff roster, but handle it right and the next thing you know your the game 7 setup man (or even starter!).

A very good post. When you reject money you are like saying... someone else could do better with this money than I can. If you are mean you can buy a bigger boat. If you are nice you can buy kids sneakers and make a little baseball stadium for them to play in (cost a few million), a few million more you can build more little kid baseball stadiums. Or donate it to cancer research.... or food for the hungry. Or buy another boat and support the boat builders. I mean I guess there is point where you also should have the right to earn less. However it has to be a really well thought out decision. Like 1) would you rather get 30 starts a year and give up 47 homers in Colorado for 10 million 2) 18 starts a year, and get tested in the bullpen (and keep in mind you never know when you need a game 7 setup man) and earn 50 million and build little kids baseball stadiums With these things you need a notepad and a pen and write out pros and cons of the options.

It kind of feels hypothetically if he was a free agent the playoff run would be 200 million extra. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is an absolute legend who sometimes acts like Josh Bell (the minor league numbers, 2021, the homerun contest, the exit velocities, the gold glove, now the playoff run, but now and then (like all of 2023) he acts like Josh Bell). Without the playoff run people would be concerned about the long (6-10 months) stretches as Josh Bell, but the playoff run re-affirms that he is and always has been a legend. All a moot point now since he is signed. Hopefully whatever was different (mechanical adjustment, a little rest, just excited about games that really matter?) carries over to 2026.

Interesting what Vlad would get in this environment as he and Tucker are comparable in WAR. Tucker I guess a bit better per 162, However Vlad two years younger and his post-season adds to the marketing package that would have been put together. 1. Greatest minor league hitter ever 2. Best exit velocities in the game. 3. Most hard hit balls this decade. 4. Gold glove defense at first, and could play third with generational arm. 5. Greatest post-season ever all against elite pitching (show that shot of him homering against Ohtani, and Snell too). 6. LIfe time .280 30 homers 100 rbis per 162, same as Sota. 7. Already perennial all star and most un-tapped potential in the game. Could easily win multiple triple crowns. Asking price 14 years $625 million. The Kawai Leonard type playoff hero your team needs and could very well give your fans the thrill of a triple crown. Not saying all that is true but that is the package an agent would put together and try to get 600 million.

I assume someone has proper translations and projections, but roughly speaking I assume it is at least a 100 point hit off of career OPS. Murakami's career Japanese OPS is is .950 and Kazuma Okamoto's .850. Seiya Suzuki was basically .950 Japan .850 U.S. Ohtani was the opposite. .850 Japan, .950 U.S. But that is an unique situation (came over at 23 and was pitching part time). So bullshitting it Okamoto would be a .250 .325 .425 hitter and Murakami .260 .350 .500.

With the exception of Ohtani and related Japanese add revenue I don't think 'star power' helps at all. Just winning. I think there is some evidence that a strong off-season leads to an attendance spike, but not sustainable without winning. You can glance at Jays all time attendance here https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TOR/ Making playoffs instantly led to the return of 3 million attendance in both 2016, and 2023. Otherwise not a lot makes a difference. Attendance wasn't great with Delgado at near triple crown level (2000, 2003). Attendance wasn't spectacular with Clemens. Attendance isn't too great historically with these 87 win teams that aren't really in it. Jays historical pattern since 1994 Playoff contention 3 million no playoff contention 1.5 million - 2.5 million (depending how far away from last playoff contention)

? Both of us said "if true" Maybe you were directing your comment at "PunchoutPitch" who-ever that is... I am not fully convinced what "PunchoutPitch" has to say is true either, I didn't bother to check secondary sources but did qualify it with an if statement.

Sounds like it is more like 12 years (if the 400 is true).

I see it is a reference to the other thread. Still curious if he likes Shaprio or not. He's indicated in other threads that Jays are behind in some pitching development areas, which is interesting. If people on a public forum are expressing that the Jays are "behind" then the Jays should know that people "think" they are behind and just disagree. As an outsider it's still hard to know what to make of this management team. Last few years it's an 88 win a year team in the same group with maybe Baltimore and Seattle. Just with very recent and dramatic playoff success. Which is great and tends to make us think they are all geniuses, but this time last year we thought they were all morons.

If he keeps the team competitive for the next 5 years and wins a World Series he will be at Gillick's level. Hard to compare eras because jobs have changed. Would people compare Atkins to Gillick? It seems like Shapiro is more the guy in charge of baseball ops, even if he doesn't do day to day details. At about the same point GIllick had two AL Easts, no playoff series wins. Shatkins has 4 playoff appearances, 1 AL East title, and an American League pennant.

Are you lol because you think he will leave (to be on a commissioner track) or because you think it is a bad decision? Or because it is just kind of crazy that he was probably on track to be out until late June when Jays out of nowhere swept the Yankees and didn't look back.

Didn't Ryan Goins also help win the AL East the next year? I think he started the season at second in 2014 then they pivoted eventually to Devon Travis who got injured and back to Goins who played well in the second half of 2015.

Just kidding around. No doubt he will be signing with the Mets or Dodgers but Jays will be super-close. Sounds like Vlad just liked his instragram post so it has be really close. As close as it could be like an inch from the World Series close. I am sure Tucker is sitting there with his offer the pen is on the paper... close... so close... Dodgers or Mets call at last minute. But so close!

1. Blue Jays interested in Kyle Tucker 2. Blue Jays close on Kyle Tucker 3. Tucker to make a decision in next 24 hours. Wife seen visiting Toronto Real Estate agent. 4. Toronto offers 12 years 430 million. No one else close. 5. Tucker signs short term high AAV with Dodgers. 3 years 145 million, mostly deferred and funded with a 30 year treasury bond set to mature in 2056.

How good is this park for a right handed hitter now? I think the dimensions are somewhere between the original and the freak show dimensions https://www.mlb.com/news/effect-of-camden-yards-new-dimensions-for-2025. If Mike Elias is a moron I guess the freak show camden thing might be evidence (for the record I thought he was the greatest GM of all time and about to launch the greatest franchise of the 21st century, 2025 wasn't great evidence for that theory but who knows what the future years will bring). Anyway freak show Camden. Seemed like it was designed to stop Vlad and Judge and Bo and Stanton. I always thought there would have to be a 5-3 game where Vlad (or Bo or Judge) hit a 415 foot, 115 mph missile to left centre that was caught and the Orioles celebrate, don't remember that game happening to the Jays but maybe it did happen to the Yankees once, I recall watching the now defunct Michael Kay show, and Kay complaining about something that happened to a Judge 117 mph 420 foot flyball in Camden. So anyway obviously the Orioles couldn't quite make an all left handed line up (Jackson Holiday, greatest prospect ever, so far is questionable as to that status, just like his GM is to his 'greatest' status, Cedric Mullins, all star center fielder now journey man, some of their other left handed hitters not panning out, so had to bring in the wall and sign big old slugging first basemen for 150 million.

Funny how Kirk and Moreno are same guy, except Kirk more durable and as of now has better post season numbers. Atkins did a great job realizing the one with the "better" body artificially had more trade value but Kirk so far has been more durable.

If they lose out on Tucker go for Imai and one of the position players. I guess they would have to get rid of Berrios in that situation.

Rumor is now Dodgers are looking to trade for Skubal and offer Tucker a 3-4 year deal with big AAV. If Jays lose out on Tucker I wouldn't mind seeing them still in on Imia. Make a super-redundant 6 man starting staff to battle the Dodgers super-team, then can move some guys to the bullpen if all healthy in October.

Crazy how far the Jays got given... 1. Bieber was dealing with forearm tightness and unable to handle a full playoff workload 2. Scherzer looked done at the end of September and they went 1-2 in his starts. 3. They lost all 4 of Gausman's ALCS and World Series starts. 4. Bichette was injured all of October 5. Springer was beat up and injured some of October. Despite the fore-arm thing they went 3-0 in Bieber's ALCS and World Series starts, 3-1 in Yesevage's. Almost no question the Jays could have a healthier and better playoff team next October. Also sadly since so much luck is involved in this, this better team may not get as far.

Not qualified to comment on your other stuff, but Jays should go LA lite. 140 innings for starters. Lots of labwork and rest. Figure out what ails them all and fix. They all get to be a setup man once and a while so don't do that for first time in playoffs. Like - next weeks you are setup man 3 times. Chill. Rest. Get strong and learn to be setup man just in case we need you in the most critical inning of last 30 years.