Olerud363.354
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Maybe trying to hit it in the air screws him up?? Maybe the best trade off we can hope for is mostly on the ground but at 110+ with occasional singles off the wall and maybe even homers over the lower fences ?? Maybe we make a deal with him that he can hit it on the ground if he's patient. Yandy Diaz for the next 7 years would not be a complete disaster. Not what we wanted, but he'd build counting numbers, contend for batting titles, get on base, get 3.5 WAR in good years, push us to the playoffs.
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I didn't bump the thread because Vlad apparently hit the hardest ball in baseball last night at 115 mph, 5 degrees, and my rule was I stop bumping the thread if Vlad hits it over 110. But other people bumped it, so don't blame me. Didn't watch so it was probably a double play or something. Congratulations to Joc Pederson, Jake Burger, Wyatt Langford, for hitting them high and deep into the Toronto night, you all now have more homeruns at Rogers Center then Vladimir Guerrero Jr. But also congratulations to Vladimir Guerrero Jr. for hitting the hardest ball in baseball last night, maybe it was a light schedule but none the less that 115 mph missile right at an infielder hopefully indicates there will be some sing;es off the wall soon!
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Blue Jays Minor League Highlights Thread
Olerud363.354 replied to Laika's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
For this year. Also thinking ahead to next year when there is (presumably) no Springer. Keys/Oak/Vlad for DH, 1B, and 3b. -
Tonight, when a Texas ranger hits a long high drive, deep into the night, a loud crack of the bat, an outfielder hardly moves, a run on the board! You can say congratulations. You have now hit more homers at Rogers Center in 2026 then Vladimir Guerrero Jr.!!!!
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There are so few we don't even have to check the exit velocity box scores. We just can remember them. 26 degrees 109 mph, 430 feet, the crack at the bat, the thrill of a long high drive deep into the night sky. If these happen regularly they blend together, but if it only happens once or twice we remember. Vlad homers the 2026 collection 1. In Chicago early April - 108 25 degrees 437 feet - normal homer that happened twice a week in 2021 2. In LA mid April - 107 28 degrees 430 feet - a high majestic drive that a 500 million dollar slugger is suppose to provide regularly. 3. in Detroit May - 100 25 degrees 370 or so - even Vlad complained that this was a Mickey mouse homer and did not indicate his slump was over. 4. In Boston June - 100 mph 25 degrees 400 feet or so - WIND AIDED. Not really even a homer just a ball up in the air that got in the wind and went 30 extra feet. Vlad has not hit the ball properly in 2 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Counterpoint: They suck with runners in scoring position. That is random and will regress. I think it will only 'regress' if they stop chasing and walk more. Walk more. Hit ball hard. That's it. Nothing else. If this group of players can't do that, season over. Don't trade Sean Keys as well. Walks and hits ball hard. Release Springer, put Guerrero on waivers, to open a spot for him, before trading Keys.
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Here are the options. 1. Team walks more and hits the ball harder. Vlad hits the ball at 110+ 5 times a week, 100+ 20 times a week. 2. Season over. Those are the options. If 1. can't happen season is over.
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They are second last in on base percentage. Last in walks. Last year they were first in on base percentage. Stealing 4-5 bases a night will do s*** all because they will also be caught 1-2 times. Exactly how they going to stead 4-5 bases anyway? Like they get on base maybe 9 times in a game. Kirk, Valenzuela, Okamota are probably 4 or 5 of those and.... And like the greatest base stealing team of all-time, the 1985 St. Louise Cardinals stole 2 bases a game. The best base stealing team in the AL this year is the Yankees with 1 a game. And that is doing s***-all anyway. They score runs because they hit a lot of homers and get on base. Like they are on pace to hit 240 homers and walk 700 times and score a little runs then you'd expect (820 maybe) because they lost 25 baserunners stealing bases they didn't need. They need 4-5 walks a night and 4-5 balls hit over 105 mph including at least one by Vlad. If they don't get that they are screwed, even stealing like the 85 St. Louise Cardinals.
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Blue Jays Minor League Highlights Thread
Olerud363.354 replied to Laika's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Keys and Perry traded to Florida for Alcantara. Keys leads Marlins to playoffs with 20 homers in August and September then becomes their Ben Rice. Seriously though, assume George Springer is not on the team next year and that Guerrero has an injury and issues that may require DL stints and load management and 2 months off for swing reconstruction. Is Keys the guy to take Springer's spot and backup Guerrero, especially if they go to a load management system? If you want to trade Keys, then who do you think gets this role? -
Yankee Announcer - And here is Ben Rice, a high deep drive, a hard hit ball, no doubt about it, the outfielder doesn't move. 30 homers before the all star break, so many thrills for the fans. The ball flies off his bat. ELECTRIC!!!!! Yankee color - Surprised he didn't make the all star game. Certainly deserved. Blue Jays Announcer - Vlad sends that one to left... out fielder takes a step back, now coming in to make a routine catch. Misjudged a bit, but just floated out there and hung up. Blue Jay color - So Vlad will end the first half stuck at 4 homers. He will be headed to the all star game though as the fans still love him.
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Cito did this and it wasn't a great look. All star starters were AMCO with Griffey in between and the W on the bench. Mike Mussina warmed up and did not get into game.
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Jayson Heyward was a huge guy, super athletic, awesome defense stats, great minor league stats. Had a good power season at 22 (not at Vlad's level) then at 26 hit .230 .306 .325 and then at 31 .214 .280 .347. Some other awful seasons in his prime. Super-athletic, hard worker I think, great in all the other areas of the game, good hitter as a young guy... and his swing broke and could never be fixed. Vlad's best and so far worst is better then Heyward... but just the trend, the idea of a broken swing that can't get fixed is concerning.
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The only guy that remotely deserves to go is Okamoto. Jays fans need to smarten up and vote for him only. The Vlad thing is insane. Follow the game a bit. Even if you like rbbizzz and homerz you can use ONLY those 2 stats to vote for better choices.
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Every franchise is a complete mess except the Yankees, Dodgers, Brewers. We signed a first basemen who lost all exit velocity and power to a 500 million contract. The Mariners singed a first basemen just as bad apparently to a 100 million contract. The Giants took on a horrible contract for a deteriorating first basemen with a bad contract. The Mets seem to be a complete mess. The Braves might look good right now, but AA will probably do some moronic thing that will get them back to 75 wins next year. The Rays? OK. They might be well run too.
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I have noticed that. In any game he still seems to have some of the fastest swings. https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/vladimir-guerrero-jr-665489?stats=statcast-r-bat_tracking-mlb Just glanced at these stats and there is nothing there I can see to indicate his swing is off compared to 23-25. Weird. But his exit Vs are down a few mph. Especially the last few weeks.
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Joey Loperfido now has more homers at Rogers Center this year then Vlad. And he was traded to the Astros. Jays lose in agonizing fashion, destroying the bullpen and causing several downstream losses and Vlad has no exit velocities over 100 and leaves many stranded this thread gets bumped. Jays lose in regular fashion (don't destroy bullpen) and Vlad has a horrible day but hit a ball over 100 (even if grounder double play) the 'Cm'on Vlad' thread gets bumped. Jays win, or Vlad has a couple hits neither thread gets bumped. Vlad hits a homerun at over 108 mph neither thread gets bumped for 10 days. Those are the rules. If this thread annoys you hope Vlad stops playing like 38 year old Miguel Cabrera and more like 29 year old Miguel Cabrera.
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Ryan Howard's contract was 5 years 125 million. Really not something they needed to do because it began when he was 32 and went through age 36. Anthony Rendons was 7 247. Vlad is twice as much as Rendon, four times as much as Howard. Signed through age 40. We are at month 3 and his power is gone. That is kind of what happened to Miguel Cabrera. In his prime Miguel averaged 95 mph with regular 110 mph contact. In his late 30s it was down under 90 and the ball could no longer fly out of the park or past the third basemen. This has happened to Vlad at age 27.
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Edwin is there all the time and apparently isn't helping. Seems like Edwin would be a great model, big right-handed guy, averaged 40 homers a year for like 6 years. What would Votto style be? Even more patient then Edwin? Rarely swing?
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Same thing that happened to Jayson Heyward maybe. A big guy who peaked at 22 and completely lost the ability to hit the ball in the air, then hard at all. The weird thing is that he just hasn't hit the ball that hard at all for 2 months. Not even hard on the ground. It's not even a ground ball thing anymore compared to his other years. Just a hitting the ball hard thing. One of his last at bats was a 98 mph 27 degrees 370 feet. Problem is missing exit velocity. The hit he was "robbed" on a potential double? Actually not a miracle play. Ball was only hit at 93 giving the 3rd basemen time to react. Nothing wrong with hitting the ball at 95 if that's the average, but that's like his top end now. Or at least for the last few weeks.
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Breaking News: Taylor Trammel has more HRs at Rogers Center than Vladdy this season lol.
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Unfortunate but the entire story indicated something was wrong, starting with the game against Boston last year where he couldn't go and they switched to a bullpen game at the last minute. Then they moved Trey Yesavage ahead of him in the playoff rotation, then 40 year old Max Scherzer ... he obviously wasn't recovering. Then accepting the 15 million option. Then taking forever to get started. Will be interesting to see if he is ready for his next start. I guess he only went 55 pitches or so today so maybe.
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First ball Guerrero hit was 35 degrees 90 mph easy out. Alvarez hit it 35 degrees 105 mph double off the wall. Second ball 7 degrees 92 mph. .500 expected batting average, caught but barely. Hits it harder it's a double. It is so weird that he is getting good launch angles but no exit velocities. I guess that happens, but seems like it's all the time now with Vlad.
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He didn't quite scorch it though. 93 off the bat .520 expected average. Coin flip. Caught half the time. He's so messed up this year, used to hit a ball or 2 a night at 110. Exit Vs are just way down, so gives guys more time to catch it and look like they are making great plays.
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Yeah. Just stat-scouted him. I could understand it if he was a consistent 30 starts a year guy with the 2.5 years control vs 2 months of Skubal. He was 41 year old Max Scherzer level awful in 2024 and had to be a reliever in 2025. Unless there is something in the advanced stuff stats that is super-promising, looks like a risk.
