Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2026)

[John_Havok]

4 minutes ago, Omar said:

Jose Ramirez should in there for an honorable mention. No one talks about his decline this season. 

Good call. His season is actually a worse than Vlad's with the bat. Still great D though

[Laika]

19 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

When i started the article that was what I was looking for, where Bichette was going to be ranked. Like, i knew Vlad, Raleigh and Tucker would be in there near the top in some order, but I though Bichette would easily crack the top 10. 

I don't even know if Raleigh is the correct choice for #1, he's still popped more than 20 HRs even though his overall production is way down. Plus, he doesn't have the mega-contract against him like Vlad and Tucker do. 

9.1 to 1.9 fWAR 

3.9 to 1.2 fWAR 

 

[Laika]

10 minutes ago, Omar said:

Jose Ramirez should in there for an honorable mention. No one talks about his decline this season. 

Yes but he's 33

Hard for me to consider anyone in their 32+ seasons as that disappointing when they fall off big. Happens to everyone at some point. 

The guys in their 20s falling on their faces and the top prospects completely busting are the ones for me 

[John_Havok]

3 minutes ago, Laika said:

9.1 to 1.9 fWAR 

3.9 to 1.2 fWAR 

 

Fair points, but I think it's completely unrealistic to have expected Cal to repeat that season when it was such an outlier to begin with. 

There's probably some homer-istic bias for me too given that Vlad has been essentially disapointing every year since 2021 (exception - 2024 and playoffs 2025) so this year just seems like a continuation of that trend. 

[Brownie19]

50 minutes ago, Laika said:

9.1 to 1.9 fWAR 

3.9 to 1.2 fWAR 

 

Tucker - 4.5 to 0.5 fWAR

[Stangstag]

16 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Tucker - 4.5 to 0.5 fWAR

Having both him AND Vlad locked up for 10+ years would Be franchise-crippling 

[max silver]

5 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Having both him AND Vlad locked up for 10+ years would Be franchise-crippling 

Massive bullet dodged there. Just imagine if the nightmare scenario of all of Vlad, Tucker and Bo being locked up long term had come to fruition. 

[glory]

18 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Having both him AND Vlad locked up for 10+ years would Be franchise-crippling 

Man, 14/500 for Vlad and (allegedly) 10/350 for Tucker would have been a nightmare. Thank goodness the Dodgers did what they did. 

[glory]

In one of the more shocking tweets you'll read today:
 

[Stangstag]

7 minutes ago, glory said:

In one of the more shocking tweets you'll read today:
 

I was pretty certain in April that he wouldn’t return this year. We’ll see

[John_Havok]

20 minutes ago, glory said:

In one of the more shocking tweets you'll read today:
 

I win the pool. I predicted the injury would occur before a call-up. 

I was also the only member of the pool. 

[max silver]

13 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

I win the pool. I predicted the injury would occur before a call-up. 

I was also the only member of the pool. 

If nothing else you can give yourself a nice Barry Horowtitz'ian pat in the back in celebration of your victory. 

[John_Havok]

16 hours ago, max silver said:

If nothing else you can give yourself a nice Barry Horowtitz'ian pat in the back in celebration of your victory. 

Legend 

[Spanky__99]

Jays went from 2nd in MLB last season with RISP to 26th this season, yeesh.

 

1	LAD	161		1526	1265	573	351	68	7	56	541	23	6	183	288	.277	.362	.475	.837	601	37	15	7	54	32	6		.303	118	124
2	TOR	158		1619	1371	583	400	82	4	42	559	17	4	159	287	.292	.361	.449	.810	616	47	15	22	45	25	7		.329	114	117
3	NYM	161		1581	1309	543	340	73	10	54	526	32	3	191	312	.260	.351	.455	.805	595	45	21	6	53	28	8		.287	114	116
4	CHC	160		1632	1377	570	367	68	7	55	549	57	10	177	330	.267	.344	.446	.790	614	31	14	8	55	16	7		.298	111	112
5	NYY	160		1641	1347	565	344	71	2	54	538	46	12	219	363	.255	.354	.431	.786	581	34	17	2	54	39	12		.295	101	111
6	MIA	161		1599	1379	545	379	79	10	41	516	36	9	149	316	.275	.342	.436	.778	601	35	15	12	44	13	8		.317	120	109
7	DET	161		1448	1235	540	319	66	11	48	509	19	2	145	327	.258	.332	.446	.778	551	24	16	2	50	12	5		.298	113	108
8	PHI	161		1595	1360	556	351	62	9	55	532	54	5	164	319	.258	.337	.438	.775	596	30	19	8	42	19	6		.288	104	108
9	MIL	162		1701	1436	625	400	72	2	38	569	71	10	177	309	.279	.355	.411	.766	590	31	21	14	50	15	21		.318	109	106
10	ATH	160		1515	1307	503	327	81	3	53	481	18	3	147	330	.250	.324	.438	.763	573	40	13	10	35	13	8		.286	104	1

 

	TOT	4496		43687	36849	14735	9332	1779	176	1216	13882	962	173	4615	9406	.253	.336	.410	.746	15111	1006	591	395	1211	508	251		.296	108	100
26	TOR	151		1388	1188	449	291	62	1	34	423	31	6	126	257	.245	.314	.385	.699	457	41	15	13	46	15	9		.273	101	87
27	CLE	150		1438	1213	462	288	65	2	34	436	64	6	143	313	.237	.317	.378	.696	459	22	18	22	41	13	6		.280	102	87
28	LAA	151		1390	1185	449	277	53	6	33	423	21	4	139	346	.234	.318	.372	.690	441	36	21	13	30	15	7		.292	103	85
29	CIN	150		1354	1146	416	249	49	2	45	390	35	7	154	351	.217	.307	.381	.688	437	28	10	7	37	11	12		.259	97	84
30	KCR	150		1485	1256	451	303	64	1	29	423	36	7	154	303	.241	.322	.363	.685	456	31	17	14	44	20	7		.283	93	84

[Laika]

14 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Jays went from 2nd in MLB last season with RISP to 26th this season, yeesh.

 

1	LAD	161		1526	1265	573	351	68	7	56	541	23	6	183	288	.277	.362	.475	.837	601	37	15	7	54	32	6		.303	118	124
2	TOR	158		1619	1371	583	400	82	4	42	559	17	4	159	287	.292	.361	.449	.810	616	47	15	22	45	25	7		.329	114	117
3	NYM	161		1581	1309	543	340	73	10	54	526	32	3	191	312	.260	.351	.455	.805	595	45	21	6	53	28	8		.287	114	116
4	CHC	160		1632	1377	570	367	68	7	55	549	57	10	177	330	.267	.344	.446	.790	614	31	14	8	55	16	7		.298	111	112
5	NYY	160		1641	1347	565	344	71	2	54	538	46	12	219	363	.255	.354	.431	.786	581	34	17	2	54	39	12		.295	101	111
6	MIA	161		1599	1379	545	379	79	10	41	516	36	9	149	316	.275	.342	.436	.778	601	35	15	12	44	13	8		.317	120	109
7	DET	161		1448	1235	540	319	66	11	48	509	19	2	145	327	.258	.332	.446	.778	551	24	16	2	50	12	5		.298	113	108
8	PHI	161		1595	1360	556	351	62	9	55	532	54	5	164	319	.258	.337	.438	.775	596	30	19	8	42	19	6		.288	104	108
9	MIL	162		1701	1436	625	400	72	2	38	569	71	10	177	309	.279	.355	.411	.766	590	31	21	14	50	15	21		.318	109	106
10	ATH	160		1515	1307	503	327	81	3	53	481	18	3	147	330	.250	.324	.438	.763	573	40	13	10	35	13	8		.286	104	1

 

	TOT	4496		43687	36849	14735	9332	1779	176	1216	13882	962	173	4615	9406	.253	.336	.410	.746	15111	1006	591	395	1211	508	251		.296	108	100
26	TOR	151		1388	1188	449	291	62	1	34	423	31	6	126	257	.245	.314	.385	.699	457	41	15	13	46	15	9		.273	101	87
27	CLE	150		1438	1213	462	288	65	2	34	436	64	6	143	313	.237	.317	.378	.696	459	22	18	22	41	13	6		.280	102	87
28	LAA	151		1390	1185	449	277	53	6	33	423	21	4	139	346	.234	.318	.372	.690	441	36	21	13	30	15	7		.292	103	85
29	CIN	150		1354	1146	416	249	49	2	45	390	35	7	154	351	.217	.307	.381	.688	437	28	10	7	37	11	12		.259	97	84
30	KCR	150		1485	1256	451	303	64	1	29	423	36	7	154	303	.241	.322	.363	.685	456	31	17	14	44	20	7		.283	93	84

Just a nightmare season. 

• Legitimately horrible offense (worst xwOBA in baseball!!!)
• Unlucky on top of that (.273 BABIP with RISP)
• Star player turns into a near replacement level dingus 
• Every SP other than Cease gets hurt

[John_Havok]

28 minutes ago, Laika said:

Just a nightmare season. 

• Legitimately horrible offense (worst xwOBA in baseball!!!)
• Unlucky on top of that (.273 BABIP with RISP)
• Star player turns into a near replacement level dingus 
• Every SP other than Cease gets hurt

Gausman/Soriano have been perfectly healthy. 

Aside from that, ....... yeah. Grossly terrible

[Jonn]

I almost hope their is a lockout just so that bum Anthony Santander doesn’t get paid next year. Dude has zero drive to get back on a Baseball field.

[max silver]

12 minutes ago, Jonn said:

I almost hope their is a lockout just so that bum Anthony Santander doesn’t get paid next year. Dude has zero drive to get back on a Baseball field.

This is highly illogical. If Santander didn't want to get back on the field he wouldn't have bothered with late season comeback attempts this year and last and would have just coasted into the offseason.

[Omar]

I will take a gimpy Yesavage at this point.

Or do you guys want more of this below from Lorenzen?