Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Funky]

Just get Bo done as a starting point.  He will bat in front or behind Vlad and extend the line-up.  He will bring our payroll to approx $250 million.  That is 50 ish away from the top tax bracket.  Santander hitting behind Bo protects Bo and Santander should bounce back.  
 

if Barger takes that next step, still young enough, and can bat 2nd or split with Lucas batting second we have a solid top 5 in the bottom 4 we still have Varzho, Clement, Kirk and Gimenez.  That is a solid top nine until at least the trade deadline or injuries. Save some money for now and  find a good player at the trade deadline out of fraction of their taxable contract

pitching lines are absolutely the same way with Gausman, Bieber and Yesavage a solid top three.  Berrios as of four still puts us in great shape.  However, you pick up one of the better top end pitchers in the free agent work for around 25 a year and move half of the rotation down one notch, and it will be one of the better rotations in the league.. it also allows Lauer to be a long man and if injuries hit he or one of the young pups, including Tiedemann, Francis or Bloss can get a couple of stars to see what they have.  
 

For now, one higher and reliever really set her pen up nice for the trade deadline. My hope is for Williams. He still has his stuff just had a rough year. 
 

Re-signing Bo, grabbing now top end, free agent starter and a top 10 for agent reliever still leaves us 10 million under the top tax bracket which at the trade deadline allows us to bring at least one or two really good players if needed. 
 

it also doesn’t upset the core of our championship team from last year. 
 

Michael King and Brendan Woodruff also intrigued me. Any chance they could be had cheaper because of the injuries?
 

 

[John_Havok]

On 11/14/2025 at 4:49 AM, Eat My Shatkins said:

Tucker AND Bo would be even more incredible, but they'd either have to leave the rotation as it is or go over the highest threshold to add to it.

DH - Springer (R)
RF - Tucker (L)
1B - Vladdy (R)
2B - Bo (R)
LF - Santander (S)
C - Kirk (R)
3B - Barger (L)
CF - Varsho (L)
SS - Giminez (L)


Bench - Heineman, Lukes, Clement, Schneider
 

That offense would be unreal good. OF defense takes a hit but the bench would help.

Bottom of the lineup would also be neutralized rather easily from the 6th inning onwards. 

[SeranthonySantander]

23 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Bottom of the lineup would also be neutralized rather easily from the 6th inning onwards. 

Just switch barger and santander.

money is no object to me.

im happy with that lineup as long as we get imai or suarez plus a Fairbanks or that other guy iglesias

Clement will be in one of those spots a good amount of games hopefully he can come out strong next year 

[Sorrow]

13 hours ago, John_Havok said:

Bottom of the lineup would also be neutralized rather easily from the 6th inning onwards. 
 

You would likely have a bench of Clement, Schneider and Straw who can all pinch hit for the lefties. I think if you can’t get Tucker you need to set the team up so that Schneider is getting more playing time against RHP. The only player on the team who hit righties better than Schneider last year was Springer.

[Jimcanuck]

New strategy

Sell high on Clement + lottery ticket(s) for Alcantara ($11.2M AAV through 2027)

Sign Bo to play 2B (8/240, $30M AAV))

Sign Helsley (4/70, $17.5M AAV)

 

Springer DH

Barger 3B

Vlad 1B

Bo 2B

Kirk C

Varsho CF

Santander RF

Lukes / Schneider LF

Gimenez SS

 

Gausman

Alcantara

Yesavage

Bieber

Berrios

 

Helsley

Hoffman

Yimi

Varland

Fisher

???

[saskjayfan]

18 hours ago, bronson44 said:

Sign Tucker. Empty the farm and trade for Ketel Marte and Joe Ryan. Stack the bullpen so they ain't scoring after 6.The World Series will be easy to make.

I'm guessing we're on Marte's 5 team no trade clause.  Us the Yanks and 3 others..lol.  

I think I'd rather trade for Buxton if he's available than sign Tucker. The Dodgers have already reached out on Buxton.  I'd hate to think of him going there.  

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

New strategy

Sell high on Clement + lottery ticket(s) for Alcantara ($11.2M AAV through 2027)

Sign Bo to play 2B (8/240, $30M AAV))

Sign Helsley (4/70, $17.5M AAV)

 

Springer DH

Barger 3B

Vlad 1B

Bo 2B

Kirk C

Varsho CF

Santander RF

Lukes / Schneider LF

Gimenez SS

 

Gausman

Alcantara

Yesavage

Bieber

Berrios

 

Helsley

Hoffman

Yimi

Varland

Fisher

???

Its like none of you guys pay attention to the “Clement is the heart of the team” thing.

[Vancouverite]

5 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Its like none of you guys pay attention to the “Clement is the heart of the team” thing.

This. No way im trading Clement. Hes also pretty much a gold glove calibre infielder at 3B SS and 2B.

As others have stated on here id prioritize spending on pitching and bringing back Bo if he's willing to play 2B.

Woodruff and Cease are intriguing options to me

We should also expect some regression offensively especially from Springer who had a historically great season but he's 36. Unlikely he'll repeat that. If we bring Bo back id be happy to roll back out with the same starting line up to start. 

 

[Jimcanuck]

3 minutes ago, Vancouverite said:

This. No way im trading Clement. Hes also pretty much a gold glove calibre infielder at 3B SS and 2B.

As others have stated on here id prioritize spending on pitching and bringing back Bo if he's willing to play 2B.

Woodruff and Cease are intriguing options to me

We should also expect some regression offensively especially from Springer who had a historically great season but he's 36. Unlikely he'll repeat that. If we bring Bo back id be happy to roll back out with the same starting line up to start. 

 

Clement is good with the glove, no doubt, and it would be missed.  His bat is below average and projected to continue to be.

He BABIP'ed his way to great postseason numbers.

Alcantara >>> Clement.

 

[Laika]

3 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

New strategy

Sell high on Clement + lottery ticket(s) for Alcantara ($11.2M AAV through 2027)

Sign Bo to play 2B (8/240, $30M AAV))

Sign Helsley (4/70, $17.5M AAV)

 

Springer DH

Barger 3B

Vlad 1B

Bo 2B

Kirk C

Varsho CF

Santander RF

Lukes / Schneider LF

Gimenez SS

 

Gausman

Alcantara

Yesavage

Bieber

Berrios

 

Helsley

Hoffman

Yimi

Varland

Fisher

???

Horrendous plan 

[SeranthonySantander]

Yea I’m no expert or anything but that’s one of the worst ideas I’ve ever seen on this group.

I like ones where we get more and better players that aren’t over pays 

[max silver]

28 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

Clement is good with the glove, no doubt, and it would be missed.  His bat is below average and projected to continue to be.

He BABIP'ed his way to great postseason numbers.

Alcantara >>> Clement.

 

Ernie produced a robust .382 xwOBA in the post season. The high BABIP was largely earned and not a fluke. 

[Jimcanuck]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Horrendous plan 

Whats your plan

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said:

Whats your plan

I can't speak to Laika's plan, but my plan would be to keep the 94 win team that went to the world series as in tact as possible and add to it via free agency. 

 

[SeranthonySantander]

7 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I can't speak to Laika's plan, but my plan would be to keep the 94 win team that went to the world series as in tact as possible and add to it via free agency. 

 

The last plan you posted had us going over 300m.

Thats the one we need

[Eat My Shatkins]

Just now, SeranthonySantander said:

The last plan you posted had us going over 300m.

Thats the one we need

I'm hoping so.

They'll be a good team even if they don't, but it'd be fun to load up like for at least one season.

[Laika]

14 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

Whats your plan

Raise payroll 

Sign Imai and Tucker 

[Abomination]

I feel like they'll trade for a starting pitcher and sign a FA hitter + closer. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Jays build a trade around Berrios for Alcantara.

Jays could eat some money and add in prospects.

Still go out and try to add Cease or Imai as well.

 

1. Gausman

2. Bieber

3. Yesavage

4. Cease / Imai

5. Alcantara

 

Has potential to be the best rotation the Jays have ever had.

[Ball4Life]

What’s a reasonable expectation of the final payroll number heading into 2026?

[Jimcanuck]

1 hour ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I wouldn't mind seeing the Jays build a trade around Berrios for Alcantara.

Jays could eat some money and add in prospects.

Still go out and try to add Cease or Imai as well.

 

1. Gausman

2. Bieber

3. Yesavage

4. Cease / Imai

5. Alcantara

 

Has potential to be the best rotation the Jays have ever had.

Why would the Marlins want Berrios?

They've got 3 or 4 elite pitching prospects, a couple very close to MLB

[Pendleton]

1 hour ago, Jimcanuck said:

Whats your plan

 

DH Springer

2B Donovan

3B Vlad

1B Naylor 

C Kirk

RF Barger 

LF Santander?

CF Varsho

SS Gimenez 

 

Clement, Lukes, Schneider, Heineman (Straw?)

 

Gausman 

Yesavage

Bieber

Ponce

Berrios

 

R Edwin Diaz 

R Hoffman

L Jojo Romero

R Varland

R Fisher [Yimi]

R Yariel

L Fluharty 

L Lauer

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jimcanuck]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Raise payroll 

Sign Imai and Tucker 

Horrible plan

[Jimcanuck]

1 minute ago, Pendleton said:

 

DH Springer

2B Donovan

3B Vlad

1B Naylor 

C Kirk

RF Barger 

LF Santander?

CF Varsho

SS Gimenez 

 

Clement, Lukes, Schneider, Heineman (Straw?)

 

Gausman 

Yesavage

Bieber

Ponce

Berrios

 

R Edwin Diaz 

R Hoffman

L Jojo Romero

R Varland

R Fisher [Yimi]

R Yariel

L Fluharty 

L Lauer

 

 

 

 

 

 

I like this overall, but SP is weak

[Pendleton]

Just now, Jimcanuck said:

I like this overall, but SP is weak

 

If Ponce doesn't turn out to be legit, that would be the spot to address by the deadline. I also would say there's a non-zero chance of Bieber returning to frontline status. 

[Jonn]

6 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

New strategy

Sell high on Clement + lottery ticket(s) for Alcantara ($11.2M AAV through 2027)

Sign Bo to play 2B (8/240, $30M AAV))

Sign Helsley (4/70, $17.5M AAV)

 

Springer DH

Barger 3B

Vlad 1B

Bo 2B

Kirk C

Varsho CF

Santander RF

Lukes / Schneider LF

Gimenez SS

 

Gausman

Alcantara

Yesavage

Bieber

Berrios

 

Helsley

Hoffman

Yimi

Varland

Fisher

???

[Eat My Shatkins]

29 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

Why would the Marlins want Berrios?

They've got 3 or 4 elite pitching prospects, a couple very close to MLB

He's a dump dude. Hence why the Jays would have to eat some of the contract. They do it for the prospects they'd be adding. But even as a "dump" Berrios is still a useful mid to back of rotation starter who can chew up the innings Alcantara would have, and he's still projected for 1.6 fWAR. (Alcantara projected 2.5 fWAR)

Jays would giving up the prospect capital to gain the upside a guy like Alcantara has if he regains his pre TJS form.

[max silver]

4 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

He's a dump dude. Hence why the Jays would have to eat some of the contract. They do it for the prospects they'd be adding. But even as a "dump" Berrios is still a useful mid to back of rotation starter who can chew up the innings Alcantara would have, and he's still projected for 1.6 fWAR. (Alcantara projected 2.5 fWAR)

Jays would giving up the prospect capital to gain the upside a guy like Alcantara has if he regains his pre TJS form.

I see no reason why the Marlins would have any interest in taking a bad Berrios contract in trade even if the Jays eat salary. 

[Stangstag]

4 hours ago, Jimcanuck said:

Clement is good with the glove, no doubt, and it would be missed.  His bat is below average and projected to continue to be.

He BABIP'ed his way to great postseason numbers.

Alcantara >>> Clement.

 

On paper. The game is not played on paper.

[G-Snarls]

2 hours ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I'm hoping so.

They'll be a good team even if they don't, but it'd be fun to load up like for at least one season.

Agreed 

Go over for one year knowing you'll dip under the next if you have to. 

Though I suppose rules are likely to change by 2027 anyway 

All the more reason to push all in for 2026 :)