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Defensively, Bo is going to continue to regress at shortstop and will need to move off the position.

Secondly, his offensive skills seem like they could deteriorate in a hurry as he ages. Relies heavily on putting the ball in play and doesn't walk enough. He needs to hit .290-300 in order to have an OBP around .340 and his max is likely 20-25 HR's per season. Feels like a Javier Baez contract waiting to happen, worst case scenario. 

With an emphasis placed on team defense, the Jays might not even be interested in bringing back Bo. They might prefer a glove-first shortstop, or plan on moving Gimenez over. We'll see what happens. For sure the front office has an idea of what direction they want to go in. As well, the Jays will need to sign at least two arms this offseason (preferably an ace and a solid mid-rotation arm), which will cost money. 

As from a fan/PR perspective, Bo is a fan favourite and definitely is a marketable player. When people think of this Jays team, they think of Vladdy and Bo. He's definitely cemented himself as one of the core players and faces of the organization. So the Jays & Rogers will have to weigh in that impact of either letting him walk or re-signing him to an extension. 

What will the market be like for Bo? Not sure. Many of the big spending teams are set at shortstop (Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Mets, Giants, Phillies, Padres, Dodgers). Off the top of my head, the only two teams that might be interested in Bo could either be the Braves or Mariners, and that's if they want to spend that kind of money for him. 

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I wouldn't be against a Bo/Adames type deal maybe even a bit lighter, though I only see him staying here if he's not adamant on SS, I feel the Jays will likely turn to 2nd and 3rd base for him moving forward. SS is very thin in FA so that can help him get the money he desires. Guy leads the league in hits and has 56 xbh. He has leverage, I believe.

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Not many re-sign once they hit the open market - he could be as good as gone.  They probably stopped talking about an extension a while ago.  He's gonna get paid for his bat, 3B might not be a bad spot for him - kinda has the body for it too but people shouldn't assume he's willing to change positions (we don't know) - it's a demotion.

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Pretty sure it's a thin SS FA market this year but regardless if we want the same type of baseball going forward of putting  lots of balls in play and making the opposing team's defense work hard every night, then its hard to replace Bo'd priduction value imo.  He's definitely part of that success and strategy. 

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Actually, Bo for like 6/$140M to the Rockies as their 2B might be his floor. That would make sense for them for baseball and marketing reasons. 

So, something like that might be what Toronto is told to match 

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8 hours ago, Laika said:

Actually, Bo for like 6/$140M to the Rockies as their 2B might be his floor. That would make sense for them for baseball and marketing reasons. 

So, something like that might be what Toronto is told to match 

I doubt it's that low. Flip Flop!

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Most likely its close to Wily Adames and yeah Bichette is in the drivers seat given the weak market for shortstops this offseason. 

I could see the Braves going hard after Bichette. Also, wouldn't count out the Padres from spending money, but they would have to move Bogaerts or Bo over to 2B and trade Cronenworth or use him in a utility/DH role.

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3 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Most likely its close to Wily Adames and yeah Bichette is in the drivers seat given the weak market for shortstops this offseason. 

I could see the Braves going hard after Bichette. Also, wouldn't count out the Padres from spending money, but they would have to move Bogaerts or Bo over to 2B and trade Cronenworth or use him in a utility/DH role.

Sure its a weak SS market this offseason but are there any teams out there that actually view him as a SS going forward?

His D just keeps on sliding year after year

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5 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Sure its a weak SS market this offseason but are there any teams out there that actually view him as a SS going forward?

His D just keeps on sliding year after year

Probably Atlanta would until Albies becomes a FA in 2028 or if they decline one of his club options. 

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On 8/22/2025 at 11:09 AM, jaysblue said:

Defensively, Bo is going to continue to regress at shortstop and will need to move off the position.

Secondly, his offensive skills seem like they could deteriorate in a hurry as he ages. Relies heavily on putting the ball in play and doesn't walk enough. He needs to hit .290-300 in order to have an OBP around .340 and his max is likely 20-25 HR's per season. Feels like a Javier Baez contract waiting to happen, worst case scenario. 

With an emphasis placed on team defense, the Jays might not even be interested in bringing back Bo. They might prefer a glove-first shortstop, or plan on moving Gimenez over. We'll see what happens. For sure the front office has an idea of what direction they want to go in. As well, the Jays will need to sign at least two arms this offseason (preferably an ace and a solid mid-rotation arm), which will cost money. 

As from a fan/PR perspective, Bo is a fan favourite and definitely is a marketable player. When people think of this Jays team, they think of Vladdy and Bo. He's definitely cemented himself as one of the core players and faces of the organization. So the Jays & Rogers will have to weigh in that impact of either letting him walk or re-signing him to an extension. 

What will the market be like for Bo? Not sure. Many of the big spending teams are set at shortstop (Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Mets, Giants, Phillies, Padres, Dodgers). Off the top of my head, the only two teams that might be interested in Bo could either be the Braves or Mariners, and that's if they want to spend that kind of money for him. 

 

5 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Most likely its close to Wily Adames and yeah Bichette is in the drivers seat given the weak market for shortstops this offseason. 

I could see the Braves going hard after Bichette. Also, wouldn't count out the Padres from spending money, but they would have to move Bogaerts or Bo over to 2B and trade Cronenworth or use him in a utility/DH role.

So are you going to answer the question? Flippy McFloppy Fishboy...

 

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18 hours ago, hanton said:

Not many re-sign once they hit the open market - he could be as good as gone.  They probably stopped talking about an extension a while ago.  He's gonna get paid for his bat, 3B might not be a bad spot for him - kinda has the body for it too but people shouldn't assume he's willing to change positions (we don't know) - it's a demotion.

You just assumed in the former of this post, no?

Posted

IMO, Bo projects as a slightly above replacement level player for most of his next contract.

Not going to lose sleep if he walks. Has to be for the right price/positional flexibility 

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I'm more bullish on Bo's hitting not regressing too badly. However, I think his days as SS are done. He's literally bottom of the league for OAA (-10).

So where would Bo fit on this lineup? I would say DH because bad range isn't going to play a lot better at 2B/3B imo. But the problem is, Springer should move from RF to DH next year as his defense has also regressed very badly.  

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Bo is kind of having a Derek Jeter season 

Ostensibly he has been a solid defender. If range statistics didn't exist impressions of him would be so much better. Like today, two heady plays.

Posted
17 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

 

So are you going to answer the question? Flippy McFloppy Fishboy...

 

That nickname belongs to someone else.

Sure, I'm alright with Bo staying here long term due to his bat (if he keeps this level up, tough replacing), marketability and if the Jays still have money to sign other players/arms this offseason like a No. 1 starter. Also, if there is a mutual understanding that Bo will move off shortstop in the next couple of years. 

 

 

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On 8/23/2025 at 10:40 AM, jaysblue said:

Most likely its close to Wily Adames and yeah Bichette is in the drivers seat given the weak market for shortstops this offseason. 

I could see the Braves going hard after Bichette. Also, wouldn't count out the Padres from spending money, but they would have to move Bogaerts or Bo over to 2B and trade Cronenworth or use him in a utility/DH role.

Atlanta just picked up Kim, who has a $16m player option he is likely to enact.

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As good as the bat has been lately his defense has dropped off even more. 

-13 OAA/-13 DRS 36th percentile arm strenth and 20th percentile sprint speed and the body keeps getting thicker

I like the bat but the contract will have some disaster risk. His actions on the infield are pretty poor too just fluidity wise and getting the ball out of his hand been more than a few infield hits this year at balls right at him basically and because of a slow exchange the runner beats it out. Will be really interesting to see what position he plays and how well he plays it next year.

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He worth it, but we all know he will sign with the Dodgers or Yankees when he will test free agency. If the 2 nerds wanted him back, they will have sign him earlier instead of Vlad. And I won't be surprised if Bieber continue to pitch good, he will test free agency too, when Atkins will hope he activate the 16m options in 2026:lol

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