Jays sign Anthony Santander

[Jonn]

2 hours ago, Bone R said:

If you analyze the contract details, it's actually a good value contract. 

The deferral was nice to read. A future Rogers problem.

[Jays24]

I'm very confident that we'll sign one of Alonso/Bregman depending on whoever gives us the better deal. 

2B Bo

3B Bregman

1B Vlad

LF Santandar

RF Springer

CF Varsho

C Kirk

DH Whoever

SS Gimenez

This team can still win the Team Gold Glove while being MUCH better offensively.  We add a decent starter and I'm drinking the kool-aid to do damage next year.  

[Jonn]

1 hour ago, BatFlip said:

Don’t expect him to, he just likes to whine about everything.

God forbid I have higher hopes lol.

[Blue balls]

25 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Well this will not go down as my favourite Monday in history.

Oof…
you must have been devastated on Friday. 🥺

[max silver]

1 minute ago, Jonn said:

God forbid I have higher hopes lol.

Soto or nothing? I think Santander was likely the second best outfield option on the market, although you could make a case for Teoscar or Profar depending on whether he's able to recreate his 2024 success.

[G-Snarls]

23 minutes ago, max silver said:

Soto or nothing? I think Santander was likely the second best outfield option on the market, although you could make a case for Teoscar or Profar depending on whether he's able to recreate his 2024 success.

Soto

 

 

 

Santander

Hernandez 

 

Profar 

[Brownie19]

40 minutes ago, Jonn said:

The deferral was nice to read. A future Rogers problem.

Folks need to understand how deferrals work...

[Jimcanuck]

34 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

I'm very confident that we'll sign one of Alonso/Bregman depending on whoever gives us the better deal. 

2B Bo

3B Bregman

1B Vlad

LF Santandar

RF Springer

CF Varsho

C Kirk

DH Whoever

SS Gimenez

This team can still win the Team Gold Glove while being MUCH better offensively.  We add a decent starter and I'm drinking the kool-aid to do damage next year.  

I'm pretty sure Whoever would be a better LF'er than Santander

[Jays24]

Just now, Jimcanuck said:

I'm pretty sure Whoever would be a better LF'er than Santander

Ya for sure... just wanted to show the versitility with the lineup positionally that we can add the best player from Spring Training or maybe even sign a J.D. Martinez to the lineup.  

I even snuck Gimenez at SS and Bo at 2B, which I truly hope we are going to do to maximize their values defensively lol. 

[G-Snarls]

10 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

I'm pretty sure Whoever would be a better LF'er than Santander

Loperfido.  Who I guess will start until Varsho is ready and then be the 4th OF?

[Jimcanuck]

2 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Loperfido.  Who I guess will start until Varsho is ready and then be the 4th OF?

We might see Loperfido LF, Straw CF, Springer RF, Santander DH most of the time until Varsho is back.

Whoever performs best between Loperfido and Straw will then stick around.

[max silver]

2 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

We might see Loperfido LF, Straw CF, Springer RF, Santander DH most of the time until Varsho is back.

Whoever performs best between Loperfido and Straw will then stick around.

I'd like to see the team try Springer in left field to see how he can adjust. I believe that would likely be a more effective solution to keep Santander in right field in the short term with Springer in left field as Santander produced awful numbers in left field when he's played there. 

[jaysblue]

1 hour ago, Vladdywagon said:

Why do you think Clement is going to OBP .280?

Because he just did lol. 

Okay, maybe he'll OBP .300 instead. Big deal. 

[Terminator]

6 minutes ago, max silver said:

I'd like to see the team try Springer in left field to see how he can adjust. I believe that would likely be a more effective solution to keep Santander in right field in the short term with Springer in left field as Santander produced awful numbers in left field when he's played there. 

Keep in mind the joke park dimensions at Orioles Park probably played a factor

[jaysblue]

Imagine if the Jays added Pete Alonso as well. Signing two potential 40 HR bats, along with Vladdy and Bo both having monster seasons in their FA year. What a fun lineup that would be to watch!

[Jimcanuck]

^ an early case of spring fever

[max silver]

30 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Keep in mind the joke park dimensions at Orioles Park probably played a factor

That's a good possibility as he would have had a football field worth of territory to cover. 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Hopefully Santander becomes the DH for this team early next season and then remains the DH for the duration of the contract.

[Spanky99]

Wow... I missed 4 pages, lmao.

 

[Jonn]

1 hour ago, jaysblue said:

Imagine if the Jays added Pete Alonso as well. Signing two potential 40 HR bats, along with Vladdy and Bo both having monster seasons in their FA year. What a fun lineup that would be to watch!

This would be ideal.

[GNick92]

11 hours ago, jerb said:

 

I'm not overly familiar with Santander but looking at his statistics, 44 homers, 100+ribbies. The power bat we need.

Shows he played right field in past. Do you see him playing left? Springer in right. Springer could play first month in center though 

[Jonn]

3 hours ago, max silver said:

Soto or nothing? I think Santander was likely the second best outfield option on the market, although you could make a case for Teoscar or Profar depending on whether he's able to recreate his 2024 success.

No not Soto or nothing. Jays needed atleast 2 bats. The 4th and 5th year make me a bit nervous. But the terms of the deal are otherwise pretty reasonable. Both Vlad and him will need to DH alot. Will see they needed power. Still need another bat. Preferably someone who can reliably play an actual position well.

[purplehaze89]

So if you reduce his AAV by about $4M to $14M, they slip under the 2nd CBT threshold at around $259M (22M before hitting the 3rd threshold). They have the room to spend into CBT-3 comfortably before reaching CBT-4. Now they need to at least close Alonso and a pitcher. 

[Ryu In My House]

I didn't realize how decent Santander's arm is...check this out...

He ranks 126 overall, but his fastest throw is over 99 mph, putting him 20th. Huh.

This is courtesy https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/arm-strength?type=player&year=2024&minThrows=50&pos=&team=&sortColumn=max_arm_strength&sortDirection=desc

[BTS]

11 hours ago, Terminator said:

5 years, 70 mil for Santander once the deferrals are factored in.

14M CBT hit for Santander is crazy good. Ross Atkins striking back at all the haters and the losers. 

[Jays24]

6 hours ago, purplehaze89 said:

So if you reduce his AAV by about $4M to $14M, they slip under the 2nd CBT threshold at around $259M (22M before hitting the 3rd threshold). They have the room to spend into CBT-3 comfortably before reaching CBT-4. Now they need to at least close Alonso and a pitcher. 

You trade for Myles f***ing Straw, I don't wanna hear any CBT talks anymore lol. 

They need to get one of Bregman/Alonso + the best/cheapest SP you can get. 

[John_Havok]

15 hours ago, Blue balls said:

I agree with you.

I could see something like this to start the season with the actual roster.

1 - Gimenez

2 - Bichette

3 - Guerrero Jr

4 - Santander

5 - Varsho

6 - Kirk

Springer/Clement/Wagner/Loperfido/Barger/Schneider…

If it doesn’t work you push Gimenez down and leadoff Bichette. We are still missing a high contact hitter with good baserunning but it doesn’t look like there’s a great one available. I don’t see Alonso a fit at all unless it’s confirmed Vlad is leaving. If he would extend I would push hard for Bregman, than Profar and if both are not interested, settle for Grichuk in a platoon and re-assess next offseason.

Missing a high contact hitter with good baserunning?

You mentioned Ernie Clement. That's basically his entire offensive profile. 

[jerb]

 

[Terminator]

Would love to start a tradition of throwing potatoes onto the field after every Santander home run.

I know it's not feasible but I'd love to take a crack at hitting Aaron Boone square in the dome with my 65 mph fastball.

[Stangstag]

7 hours ago, Ryu In My House said:

I didn't realize how decent Santander's arm is...check this out...

He ranks 126 overall, but his fastest throw is over 99 mph, putting him 20th. Huh.

This is courtesy https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/leaderboard/arm-strength?type=player&year=2024&minThrows=50&pos=&team=&sortColumn=max_arm_strength&sortDirection=desc

Yes, he should be playing RF with Springer switching to LF.