Roki Sasaki signs with LAD

[Stangstag]

1 minute ago, BB17 said:

I think he would have gone to the Dodgers regardless. 
 

The dodgers are one of the smartest teams and have some of the best tools for players in player development. Sure they’re a big market but Friedman did the same thing in Tampa before going to LA.

Look lets not pretend this doesn’t have everything to do with the fact Shohei chose to sign with the Dodgers. They’re a smart team and FO sure, but this has everything to do with their status as a brand in one of the most famous cities on earth. LA. Hollywood. Every foreigner dreams of making it big in LA (or NY).

Shohei chose the Dodgers and it has caused a domino effect of every Japanese player wanting to be his teammate.

[tazsub3]

lol with the s*** management what did we expect.

They should write a book, how to suck life out of a baseball fanbase 101

[Stangstag]

I wonder if Ross is contemplating offing himself at this point or if he’s actually angry and smashing things in his office.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Jays front office on Monday morning 

[Laika]

Just now, Stangstag said:

I wonder if Ross is contemplating offing himself at this point or if he’s actually angry and smashing things in his office.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Jays front office on Monday morning 

Ross has a healthy work life balance. He probably just popped on the latest 10% Happier podcast and cracked another can of raspberry Bubbly.

[Pendleton]

1 minute ago, Stangstag said:

I wonder if Ross is contemplating offing himself at this point or if he’s actually angry and smashing things in his office.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Jays front office on Monday morning 

Rossbot is not programmed for emotion 

[tazsub3]

Just now, Stangstag said:

I wonder if Ross is contemplating offing himself at this point or if he’s actually angry and smashing things in his office.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Jays front office on Monday morning 

if he would just resign, i would forgive him. BUt at this stage it is on rogers. he brought this circus to town . Hey at least i am no longer spending on the jays (for a few years now) .... though i am a fan at heart and i want to cheer for my team.

i went from season ticket and watching most out of town games during AA peak year to last year not watching a single complete game on tv ! Sad for me being the baseball fan i am

[Angrioter]

10 minutes ago, Terminator said:

 

That's the way Atkins. 1st have a deal with the player, then you make trade for intentional bonus money

[Jonn]

33 minutes ago, Sorrow said:

Set a hard cap of like $250m with a floor of $150m so teams can’t just be cheap f***s and actually have to pay players. A cap hurts top end talent but a floor helps lower to middle tier players.

The floor would be extremely important. You have to force markets like Cleveland and Pittsburgh to spend money or the system falls apart.

[Jonn]

Just now, Angrioter said:

That's the way Atkins. 1st have a deal with the player, then you make trade for intentional bonus money

It's very possible the Dodgers had a similar deal lined up for Straw and that bonus pool money and the Jays jumped on it first. In the game of leverage your only advantage is making it more difficult for the other party to get what they need but you still don't know the final outcome.

[Stangstag]

2 minutes ago, tazsub3 said:

if he would just resign, i would forgive him. BUt at this stage it is on rogers. he brought this circus to town . Hey at least i am no longer spending on the jays (for a few years now) .... though i am a fan at heart and i want to cheer for my team.

i went from season ticket and watching most out of town games during AA peak year to last year not watching a single complete game on tv ! Sad for me being the baseball fan i am

You didn’t watch the first 4-5 AA years then I guess? Because those years were also quite s***. 

This team has been an exciting/playoff contender for the last while minus 2024.

[Stangstag]

5 minutes ago, tazsub3 said:

if he would just resign, i would forgive him. BUt at this stage it is on rogers. he brought this circus to town . Hey at least i am no longer spending on the jays (for a few years now) .... though i am a fan at heart and i want to cheer for my team.

i went from season ticket and watching most out of town games during AA peak year to last year not watching a single complete game on tv ! Sad for me being the baseball fan i am

And sorry, if you didn’t actually watch a single game last year its hard to call yourself a “fan” of the team.

Lets be honest here. You don’t actually give a s***.

[Angrioter]

7 minutes ago, Jonn said:

It's very possible the Dodgers had a similar deal lined up for Straw and that bonus pool money and the Jays jumped on it first. In the game of leverage your only advantage is making it more difficult for the other party to get what they need but you still don't know the final outcome.

Are you Ross Atkins? 

🤣 

[Vancouverite]

f*** it. Trade Vlad and Bo now

Don't want to see another round of Batista, ED, Donaldson etc walk out for nothing or pennies in the dollar

 

Along as rogers is committed to spending money than I'm ok with retooling and sucking for a year

[Pendleton]

Life as a Dodgers pitcher, in gif form

 

[Jonn]

7 minutes ago, Angrioter said:

Are you Ross Atkins? 

🤣

I wish I got paid for sucking at my job.

[tazsub3]

23 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

You didn’t watch the first 4-5 AA years then I guess? Because those years were also quite s***. 

This team has been an exciting/playoff contender for the last while minus 2024.

I had season tickets during those years, yes they were bad, but we had an aggressive local Gm trying every angle to improve the team,  Good drafting, exciting future, made up for the lousy results then. Now, shatkins, ruing the core, and having nothiing exciting to look forward to except failure after failure.

The club had life back then, now  it is analytics and throwing each other under the bus.

[Stangstag]

5 minutes ago, tazsub3 said:

I had season tickets during those years, yes they were bad, but we had an aggressive local Gm trying every angle to improve the team,  Good drafting, exciting future, made up for the lousy results then. Now, shatkins, ruing the core, and having nothiing exciting to look forward to except failure after failure.

The club had life back then, now  it is analytics and throwing each other under the bus.

Delusional 

[Jays24]

41 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

I wonder if Ross is contemplating offing himself at this point or if he’s actually angry and smashing things in his office.

Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Jays front office on Monday morning 

He would look into the possibility of that becoming an outcome based on several other factors...

[Laika]

Ross is excited about the possibility of giving himself a chance to think about potentially making it a realistic scenario in which he ends his own life 

[L54]

15 minutes ago, tazsub3 said:

I had season tickets during those years, yes they were bad, but we had an aggressive local Gm trying every angle to improve the team,  Good drafting, exciting future, made up for the lousy results then. Now, shatkins, ruing the core, and having nothiing exciting to look forward to except failure after failure.

The club had life back then, now  it is analytics and throwing each other under the bus.

You aren’t a true fan because you don’t watch 300 hours of sub .500 baseball a summer 

[L54]

Blow it up. The ship cannot be saved 

[glory]

[Terminator]

The Jays front office was not one of those teams lol

[Jays24]

Just when you think you can't go any lower... shatkins find a way.  This is how rock bottom truly feels like.  

[Terminator]

1 minute ago, glory said:

If true the Dodgers should be tarred and feather. We have Myles Straw now because of this.

[Stangstag]

5 minutes ago, L54 said:

You aren’t a true fan because you don’t watch 300 hours of sub .500 baseball a summer 

He said he barely watched any hours.

So yeah not much of a fan

[L54]

Just now, Terminator said:

The Jays front office was not one of those teams lol

Lmao no kidding. No clue at all 

[L54]

Just now, Stangstag said:

He said he barely watched any hours.

So yeah not much of a fan

He said he didn’t watch a complete game 

I’m not interested in watching Stewart Beroa or whatever his name is pinch hit in the 7th inning either 

[glory]

Roki and the Dodgers having a deal well in advance would be the least surprising thing ever, but the fact that Ross fell for the fake interest just makes me sad. 

[Key22]

41 minutes ago, Jonn said:

It's very possible the Dodgers had a similar deal lined up for Straw and that bonus pool money and the Jays jumped on it first. In the game of leverage your only advantage is making it more difficult for the other party to get what they need but you still don't know the final outcome.

Yeah, we don't know what was going on behind the scenes and what Roki was looking at. Some broadcasters with knowledge of Japanese culture noted that it wasn't about the money itself but that the contract should be the highest offer on the International market. Who knows. Clearly there is some truth to it if the Dodgers are trading for more pool money.

The Jays gambled here, and they lost. It's frustrating to continually be runners-up, but taking a breath for a second, the fact is we are continually second place in spite of the fact that we're last place in the AL East with no longer-term stars, an awful farm system with no star talent on the horizon, management not under long-term contracts, and not in a "movie star" climate.

I think that says a helluva lot for Canada and Toronto. I just wish the Jays management accomplished what they said they were going to do when they took over the team and be like the Dodgers having high-quality talent coming through the farm and win year after year.

I still think they should trade Vlad - get 4 high quality prospects to beef up the farm then sign Santander and Alonso to replace him. They would be a better team in 2025 doing that.