General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Terminator]

The Bieber stuff is interesting. It's hard to decipher Ross' corporate gobbledygook.

Could mean he is hurt. Could mean he's fine they are just being cautious with workload coming off TJS. It's probably the latter.

[Spanky__99]

12 minutes ago, Terminator said:

The Bieber stuff is interesting. It's hard to decipher Ross' corporate gobbledygook.

Could mean he is hurt. Could mean he's fine they are just being cautious with workload coming off TJS. It's probably the latter.

The way Bieber spoke about himself he was fine, just needs to tighten up his command that'll come with more reps and better results, I have no worries atm.

[Olerud363.354]

They should resign Bassitt and Tatsui Imai

Then just have guys on stand by half the time, experiment with 4 inning outings, starters being the setup man sometimes.  piggy backing, 6 man rotation sometimes...  everybody end up with 140 innings, maybe Bieber less.   

Option Yesivage for a couple weeks for a rest.   Put Bieber on the dl a few times.  All kinds of crazy stuff then just aim to be fresh for the playoffs.   And as a second purpose to this make sure different types of relief work aren't new to these guys.  Like your first opportunity as a set up man is ideally not game 7s. 

Gotta still make the playoffs so that is why they need Tatsui Imai to do this. 

Realistically probably never work... because guys have their routines... or maybe it would. 

[Jays24]

And here we thought Bieber signed with us because he loved us :( 

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, Olerud363.354 said:

They should resign Bassitt and Tatsui Imai

Then just have guys on stand by half the time, experiment with 4 inning outings, starters being the setup man sometimes.  piggy backing, 6 man rotation sometimes...  everybody end up with 140 innings, maybe Bieber less.   

Option Yesivage for a couple weeks for a rest.   Put Bieber on the dl a few times.  All kinds of crazy stuff then just aim to be fresh for the playoffs.   And as a second purpose to this make sure different types of relief work aren't new to these guys.  Like your first opportunity as a set up man is ideally not game 7s. 

Gotta still make the playoffs so that is why they need Tatsui Imai to do this. 

Realistically probably never work... because guys have their routines... or maybe it would. 

Also known as the Dodgers yearly pitching plan 

[jmomcc]

36 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Also known as the Dodgers yearly pitching plan 

The dodgers to some degree sign guys they expect to get injured. We don't so we might end up in a spot where we have 9 starters and 4 relievers. 

[Olerud363.354]

On 12/8/2025 at 8:03 PM, Spanky__99 said:

The way Bieber spoke about himself he was fine, just needs to tighten up his command that'll come with more reps and better results, I have no worries atm.

 

[Olerud363.354]

Crazy how far the Jays got given...

1.  Bieber was dealing with forearm tightness and unable to handle a full playoff workload

2. Scherzer looked done at the end of September and they went 1-2 in his starts. 

3. They lost all 4 of Gausman's ALCS and World Series starts.

4.  Bichette was injured all of October

5. Springer was beat up and injured some of October. 

Despite the fore-arm thing they went 3-0 in Bieber's ALCS and World Series starts, 3-1 in Yesevage's.

Almost no question the Jays could have a healthier and better playoff team next October.  Also sadly since so much luck is involved in this, this better team may not get as far. 

 

[Olerud363.354]

3 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Almost no question the Jays could have a healthier and better playoff team next October.  Also sadly since so much luck is involved in this, this better team may not get as far. 

Rumor is now Dodgers are looking to trade for Skubal and offer Tucker a 3-4 year deal with big AAV.   If Jays lose out on Tucker I wouldn't mind seeing them still in on Imia.  Make a super-redundant 6 man starting staff to battle the Dodgers super-team, then can move some guys to the bullpen if all healthy in October. 

[mphenhef]

4 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Rumor is now Dodgers are looking to trade for Skubal and offer Tucker a 3-4 year deal with big AAV.   If Jays lose out on Tucker I wouldn't mind seeing them still in on Imia.  Make a super-redundant 6 man starting staff to battle the Dodgers super-team, then can move some guys to the bullpen if all healthy in October. 

I have a strong feeling they are still in on Imai.  They are definitely looking to gain a foothold in Japan judging by the ads they are running over there.  It could be okamoto or Murakami too I suppose.  rogers the media company I am sure is eyeing up SNNow revenue from Japan.

[Olerud363.354]

43 minutes ago, mphenhef said:

I have a strong feeling they are still in on Imai.  They are definitely looking to gain a foothold in Japan judging by the ads they are running over there.  It could be okamoto or Murakami too I suppose.  rogers the media company I am sure is eyeing up SNNow revenue from Japan.

If they lose out on Tucker go for Imai and one of the position players.   I guess they would have to get rid of Berrios in that situation. 

[hanton]

LA got burned when they signed Conforto, lucky it was only a 1 year deal - the Tucker rumor makes sense - they are desperate for a corner OF bat

[glory]

Tucker on a short term deal with the Dodgers unfortunately makes a lot of sense for him. I’ve said before I don’t think his market realistically involves that many teams, especially now with the Phillies presumably out and the Yankees focusing on Bellinger or cheaper alternatives. If he doesn’t have big market teams driving up the price on longer term deals, then a short term deal on a higher AAV is probably the smartest way to maximize his dollars. MLB players usually prefer more years so curious to see what direction he goes in, but I think the Dodgers might be a real possibility for him now.

[Laika]

Nah, I don't agree. This is a once-in-a-career chance for a mega contract 

[Eat My Shatkins]

Well at least it's been reported that Tucker has been in talks with the Jays, and even toured their facilities in Dunedin, that way we know they are driving up the price on him for when he ultimately chooses the Dodgers. It wouldn't really feel like a proper off season without the Jays being close to signing the biggest position player free agent lmao

[Laika]

Some insight into why Y Pinango may have been left exposed. Jays sure have a type, lol. 

 

 

[Omar]

The Jays can't afford to let Tucker sign elsewhere, least of all to the dreaded Dodgers. That means the Jays may have to extend the term. Might have to go seven years.  

Perhaps the better option is to get Belli for his versatility?  Bo is off my radar.  Sorry but it is better to take a pass on him. Let him go to Boston and age ungracefully. 

[sliderguy35]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Some insight into why Y Pinango may have been left exposed. Jays sure have a type, lol. 

 

 

i don't really buy this, bad teams aren't really gonna care if he's below average in the field as long as he can hit even a little bit. the data is pretty eye popping as well (108 EV90 with above average zone & overall contact rates, average groundball rate). there aren't a lot of guys his age or younger that can put together that kind of contact data at AAA.

i mean the rockies and pirates literally have replacement level projections at left field AND dh. if he ends up being a 1-1.5 WAR, 105-110 wRC+ strong-side platoon option, i'm sure they'd be absolutely thrilled. 

[Laika]

5 minutes ago, sliderguy35 said:

i don't really buy this, bad teams aren't really gonna care if he's below average in the field as long as he can hit even a little bit. the data is pretty eye popping as well (108 EV90 with above average zone & overall contact rates, average groundball rate). there aren't a lot of guys his age or younger that can put together that kind of contact data at AAA.

i mean the rockies and pirates literally have replacement level projections at left field AND dh. if he ends up being a 1-1.5 WAR, 105-110 wRC+ strong-side platoon option, i'm sure they'd be absolutely thrilled. 

I guess what he is saying is he just thinks Pinango will struggle in MLB 

Even if he ends up on a team that has a brutal DH/LF projection, he is competing against guys like Endy Rogriguez, Mickey Moniak, Heriberto Hernandez, Jhostnyxon Garcia, Griffin Conine, Adrian Del Castillo, Miguel Vargas, Jordan Beck, Jack Suwinski.

I kind of agree that the most likely path is probably a) he gets selected, and b) he puts up negative WAR for a month and is returned 

[Jimcanuck]

BA awards Popkins Coach of the Year

[glory]

[Olerud363.354]

On 12/10/2025 at 12:49 PM, Omar said:

The Jays can't afford to let Tucker sign elsewhere, least of all to the dreaded Dodgers. That means the Jays may have to extend the term. Might have to go seven years.  

Sounds like it is more like 12 years (if the 400 is true). 

[Omar]

4 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Sounds like it is more like 12 years (if the 400 is true). 

Crazy if true.  Can't see this happening.

[Laika]

21 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Sounds like it is more like 12 years (if the 400 is true). 

Alden Gonzalez does NOT say this in his article. Reading comprehension! 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- If there's one team willing and able to give outfielder Kyle Tucker the $400 million he seeks in free agency, it's the Toronto Blue Jays, according to many of the agents, executives and managers at baseball's annual winter meetings this week. 

[Olerud363.354]

21 minutes ago, Laika said:

Alden Gonzalez does NOT say this in his article. Reading comprehension! 

 

39 minutes ago, Omar said:

Crazy if true.  Can't see this happening.

 

44 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Sounds like it is more like 12 years (if the 400 is true). 

?  Both of us said "if true"

Maybe you were directing your comment at "PunchoutPitch" who-ever that is... I am not fully convinced what "PunchoutPitch" has to say is true either, I didn't bother to check secondary sources but did qualify it with an if statement. 

[Laika]

Not directed at you. Directed at the tweeter who misrepresented Mr. Gonzalez. 

[Bob_Gratton]

3 hours ago, Omar said:

Crazy if true.  Can't see this happening.

Atkins should quickly agree if Tucker want 400m for 12 years.  Dodgers try get ride of their garbage players Teoscar and Glasnow to sign Tucker and acquire Skubal. Other teams need stop to help Dodgers. 

[Perfect Game]

 

[Perfect Game]

Sounds interesting. “The Viper”

 

 

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Perfect Game said:

Sounds interesting. “The Viper”

 

 

I like this move, Rogers lite depth.