General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Ray]

This is an absurd stat to me, especially in a day and age where strikeouts are more prevelant than ever.

[Spanky__99]

Fyi...

 

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This page will be updated throughout the year with all the latest Blue Jays injury news and transactions.

LATEST INJURIES
OF Daulton Varsho
Injury: Left hamstring strain
IL date: June 1 (10-day IL)
Expected return: Late July
Status: Varsho is joining Triple-A Buffalo this weekend, and will play approximately three games before being activated. (updated July 24) More >>

RHP Alek Manoah
Injury: Right UCL surgery
IL date: March 17 (60-day IL)
Expected return: Potentially late August
Status: Will make his next rehab "start" in a sim game on July 26. By making this one a sim game, the Blue Jays can control his pitch count as that continues to climb. (updated July 24)

OF Anthony Santander
Injury: Left shoulder inflammation
IL date: May 30 (transferred to 60-day IL on July 4)
Expected return: Potentially by end of season
Status: After meeting with the team doctors, Santander will continue to be evaluated "week to week," and will not begin hitting for at least a couple more weeks. (updated July 24) More >>

RHP Yimi García
Injury: Left ankle sprain
IL date: July 5 (15-day IL)
Expected return: Potentially late August
Status: Received a cortisone injection in his right elbow, and will be shut down from throwing for two weeks until ramping back up. (updated July 24)

2B Andrés Giménez
Injury: Left ankle sprain
IL date: July 6 (10-day IL, retroactive to July 5)
Expected return: Potentially early August
Status: Began running progression July 24 in Toronto, which went "better than expected," and he will continue to ramp up over the next week. (updated July 24)

RHP Paxton Schultz
Injury: Right middle finger inflammation
IL date: June 29 (15-day IL)
Expected return: Potentially late July
Status: Scheduled to pitch again on July 26, and could be an option for the Blue Jays at any point after that. (updated July 24)

RHP Nick Sandlin
Injury: Right elbow inflammation
IL date: July 8 (15-day IL)
Expected return: Potentially late July
Status: Received an injection in his elbow, and will back off from throwing while he's evaluated. (updated July 24)

RHP Ryan Burr
Injury: Right shoulder rotator cuff strain
IL date: July 11 (60-day IL)
Expected return: 2026
Status: Will undergo season-ending surgery. (updated July 18)

RHP Bowden Francis
Injury: Right shoulder impingement
IL date: June 17 (15-day IL, retroactive to June 15)
Expected return: TBD
Status: Will be shut down for at least 10 days after feeling “a bit cranky shoulder-wise” over the break, per manager John Schneider. (updated July 18) More >>

LHP Ricky Tiedemann (Blue Jays' No. 4 prospect)
Injury: Tommy John surgery (left elbow)
IL date: March 27 (Minor League 60-day IL)
Expected return: Potentially late 2025
Status: Throwing on flat ground out to 120 feet in early May. The organization hopes Tiedemann will see game action by the end of 2025. (updated May 2)

 

 

[max silver]

13 hours ago, John_Havok said:

More than likely his elbow is just a flare-up of what hes been dealing with the past 2 seasons or so and just happened to flare up during the ankle thing. 

This seems like something that could eventually require surgery to correct. Hopefully the cortisone shot allows him to successfully return at some point this season but those always feel like more of a bandaid solution and there's often a price to be paid later.

[Laika]

On May 28th the Yankees had a 91.,8% chance to win the division and Toronto had a 3.2% chance 

[Terminator]

https://awfulannouncing.com/mlb/michael-kay-don-mattingly-peacemaker-toronto-blue-jays.html

 

Lmao Michael Kay is so shook

[Perfect Game]

This is nice. Good to see people who can do good actually do it.

https://x.com/hgomez27/status/1948538629716148411

[Perfect Game]

We've apparently signed an outfielder:

 

[Jayzfan79]

Jays are 44-3 so far this year when they score 5+ runs.

[Terminator]

Jays have won 20 out of their last 25 games 

[John_Havok]

Varsho homered again in Buffalo tonight. 

[Jayzfan79]

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Edited July 27, 2025 by Jayzfan79
Posted in '2025 trade deadline' thread

[Jayzfan79]

On 7/25/2025 at 8:29 PM, John_Havok said:

Varsho homered again in Buffalo tonight. 

I can't wait till he is back in the line up.  

[Jayzfan79]

[Eat My Shatkins]

 

[Laika]

Vlad is kind of putting together a vintage Votto/Freeman season.

A bit weird for a dude that can hit the ball so hard. But good weird, I guess. Can't complain about any 4 WAR year.

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

Vlad is kind of putting together a vintage Votto/Freeman season.

A bit weird for a dude that can hit the ball so hard. But good weird, I guess. Can't complain about any 4 WAR year.

I dunno, a 4 WAR year is weak sauce for a guy with a $500 million price tag, but you can live with it when the rest of the roster is riddled with 2-3+ WAR players and has ZERO passengers.

[max silver]

6 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I dunno, a 4 WAR year is weak sauce for a guy with a $500 million price tag, but you can live with it when the rest of the roster is riddled with 2-3+ WAR players and has ZERO passengers.

I don't think Vlad is ever going to fully live up to the total price tag as the deal is far too long. Having said that a 4 win season isn't that out of line as compared to the average annual $35 million price tag, so I don't see a lot of value in fretting over the total contract value when Vlad is having a pretty decent season despite the lower power output. If a free agency win is valued at around $9 million and Vlad produces a 4 season that's $36 million worth of value and Vlad is earning his salary, just without much in the way of surplus value to mitigate what will likely be an ugly back half of his contract.

[Eat My Shatkins]

4 minutes ago, max silver said:

I don't think Vlad is ever going to fully live up to the total price tag as the deal is far too long. Having said that a 4 win season isn't that out of line as compared to the average annual $35 million price tag, so I don't see a lot of value in fretting over the total contract value when Vlad is having a pretty decent season despite the lower power output. If a free agency win is valued at around $9 million and Vlad produces a 4 season that's $36 million worth of value and Vlad is earning his salary, just without much in the way of surplus value to mitigate what will likely be an ugly back half of his contract.

With the Jays in 1st place in the entire MLB, I certainly won't be fretting about much of anything.

I was one of the more positive guys around when they significantly under achieved the last 2-3 seasons.

If Vlad has a 4 WAR season, that's a win in my books, even with his hefty price tag.

[Brownie19]

26 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I dunno, a 4 WAR year is weak sauce for a guy with a $500 million price tag, but you can live with it when the rest of the roster is riddled with 2-3+ WAR players and has ZERO passengers.

Obviously you'd like to see 5-7 WAR seasons, but a 140 wRC+, 4 WAR season is perfectly fine.  It's positive to see improved defense from him and we know there will be some 160 wRC+ seasons ahead.  If he gets hot, there's a chance this year itself will be 150+ and closer to 5 WAR.   

Vlad is fine IMO.

[max silver]

1 minute ago, Brownie19 said:

Obviously you'd like to see 5-7 WAR seasons, but a 140 wRC+, 4 WAR season is perfectly fine.  It's positive to see improved defense from him and we know there will be some 160 wRC+ seasons ahead.  If he gets hot, there's a chance this year itself will be 150+ and closer to 5 WAR.   

Vlad is fine IMO.

I have the same line of thinking. I'll fully admit I'm growing weary of the constant barrage of derogatory $500 million man every time Vlad has a bad game or makes a mistake on the field. I too am encouraged by the improvements he's made defensively and on the bases, albeit with the occasional blunder mixed in. I don't think we've seen peak Vlad yet either, as I believe he carries the requisite talent to potentially take over from Aaron Judge as MLB's best hitter once he hits his peak/prime and Judge starts to slow down at the plate. I think if Vlad can finally find a way to lock in the "A" power swing at the plate from day 1 in the season there is MVP potential in this player, but given the inconsistency he's shown from season to season it's far from guaranteed that will ever occur.

[John_Havok]

12 minutes ago, max silver said:

I have the same line of thinking. I'll fully admit I'm growing weary of the constant barrage of derogatory $500 million man every time Vlad has a bad game or makes a mistake on the field. I too am encouraged by the improvements he's made defensively and on the bases, albeit with the occasional blunder mixed in. I don't think we've seen peak Vlad yet either, as I believe he carries the requisite talent to potentially take over from Aaron Judge as MLB's best hitter once he hits his peak/prime and Judge starts to slow down at the plate. I think if Vlad can finally find a way to lock in the "A" power swing at the plate from day 1 in the season there is MVP potential in this player, but given the inconsistency he's shown from season to season it's far from guaranteed that will ever occur.

If we look at genetics there is some hope too... Vlad sr never really slowed down with the bat until he was 34...and was still above average. He only had one year with an OPS+ under 100 and it was 98 in his age 36 season. If Jr follows the same track...his contract is only bad for maybe 4-5 years?

[John_Havok]

Kirk is on the 7 day concussion IL

Damn

[204Jays]

Does a Bichette extension get done? Or at this point, is he testing the market?

Seems like he wanted to get one done - Jays didn't. Maybe they dont want to block Nimmala?

[John_Havok]

11 minutes ago, 204Jays said:

Does a Bichette extension get done? Or at this point, is he testing the market?

Seems like he wanted to get one done - Jays didn't. Maybe they dont want to block Nimmala?

Bichette has only ever indicated he wants max money, team friendly extensions don't give him that.

He was the guy that turned down a pre-arbitration raise because it wasn't high enough.

Nothing about Nimmala is any factor on whether Bichette signs or doesnt sign a new deal with the Jays

[204Jays]

What's Bo at his best? A top 8 SS at his worst, middle of the pack? Not saying he would agree with this assessment and probably why a deal wont get done.

[Spanky__99]

[max silver]

33 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Bichette has only ever indicated he wants max money, team friendly extensions don't give him that.

He was the guy that turned down a pre-arbitration raise because it wasn't high enough.

Nothing about Nimmala is any factor on whether Bichette signs or doesnt sign a new deal with the Jays

I don't think we necessarily have much of a read on Bo's financial priorities. My take on why he turned the pre-arb raise was a bit of a mild protest due to his inherent dislike of the system vs an indication that he is chasing max dollars. He's been saying a lot of encouraging things publicly about wanting to remain a Blue Jay long term to finish his career with Vlad, has been much more vocal this season about how much he's enjoying himself, and there was recent chatter about Bo and the team undergoing extension discussions so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he were willing to sign more of a mutually beneficial extension offer vs attempting to squeeze maximum millions from the organization such as Vlad did.

[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, John_Havok said:

Kirk is on the 7 day concussion IL

Damn

Yeah this could be much worse than people realize. Hopefully not, but concussion issues can linger for months 

[John_Havok]

37 minutes ago, max silver said:

I don't think we necessarily have much of a read on Bo's financial priorities. My take on why he turned the pre-arb raise was a bit of a mild protest due to his inherent dislike of the system vs an indication that he is chasing max dollars. He's been saying a lot of encouraging things publicly about wanting to remain a Blue Jay long term to finish his career with Vlad, has been much more vocal this season about how much he's enjoying himself, and there was recent chatter about Bo and the team undergoing extension discussions so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he were willing to sign more of a mutually beneficial extension offer vs attempting to squeeze maximum millions from the organization such as Vlad did.

Sure. My thoughts are definitely based on my own interpretations of what he has said publicly in the past.

I think these second generation star players just have much more insight into how the business side works, and, an assumption on my part that the father's imparted many examples of players being drastically underpaid, including themselves in some cases... which leads the sons to definitively want to test free agency and squeeze every dollar they can based on how they value themselves. 

Some projection here on my part for sure, but thats how I see it. 

[Terminator]

42 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Yeah this could be much worse than people realize. Hopefully not, but concussion issues can linger for months 

I think he'll be okay. He played a couple more innings after the incident. Not sure if he's in the dugout during the game but he was in the clubhouse before the game.