Around Baseball 2025

[Brownie19]

8 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Worked for us in 2025 lol

It did?  Who was coming off major injury?  Varsho was.  Who am I missing?

[Laika]

The rumor mill is starting to say that Kyle Tucker is not getting offered what he wants. Toronto may be the current "high bidder" but it's low $300s. Potential for an annoying pillow contract for him, which means any team who can do a $40m AAV can swoop in. 

I refuse to link any of this crap though 

[Olerud363.354]

30 minutes ago, Laika said:

the current "high bidder" but it's low $300s

Interesting what Vlad would get in this environment as he and Tucker are comparable in WAR.  Tucker I guess a bit better per 162,  However Vlad two years younger and his post-season adds to the marketing package that would have been put together.

1.  Greatest minor league hitter ever

2. Best exit velocities in the game.

3.  Most hard hit balls this decade.

4. Gold glove defense at first, and could play third with generational arm.

5. Greatest post-season ever all against elite pitching (show that shot of him homering against Ohtani, and Snell too).

6. LIfe time .280 30 homers 100 rbis per 162, same as Sota.

7.  Already perennial all star and most un-tapped potential in the game.  Could easily win multiple triple crowns. 

Asking price 14 years $625 million.  The Kawai Leonard type playoff hero your team needs and could very well give your fans the thrill of a triple crown.  

Not saying all that is true but that is the package an agent would put together and try to get 600 million.  

[Laika]

5 minutes ago, Olerud363.354 said:

Interesting what Vlad would get in this environment as he and Tucker are comparable in WAR.  Tucker I guess a bit better per 162,  However Vlad two years younger and his post-season adds to the marketing package that would have been put together.

1.  Greatest minor league hitter ever

2. Best exit velocities in the game.

3.  Most hard hit balls this decade.

4. Gold glove defense at first, and could play third with generational arm.

5. Greatest post-season ever against elite pitching.

6. LIfe time .280 30 homers 100 rbis per 162, same as Sota.

7.  Already perennial all star and most un-tapped potential in the game.  Could easily win multiple triple crowns. 

Asking price 14 years $625 million.  The Kawai Leonard type playoff hero your team needs and could very well give your fans the thrill of a triple crown.  

Not saying all that is true but that is the package an agent would put together and try to get 600 million.  

I feel like Vlad would have needed that playoff resume to justify the contract Toronto gave him before he even done did dat 

He bent Ross and Mark over, everybody knows it, and everyone is okay with it 

[G-Snarls]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

It did?  Who was coming off major injury?  Varsho was.  Who am I missing?

Yeah 

Jays needed PERFORMANCE rebounds 

Braves are counting on HEALTH rebounds 

[Jays24]

1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

It did?  Who was coming off major injury?  Varsho was.  Who am I missing?

Injury/bounceback, same thing.  We were pretty much expecting our entire roster to comeback strong in 2025, which it did.  The new additions hardly helped us.  

If youre strictly speaking of injury then add Bo to that list.  You can also argue Springer was playing hurt most of 2024, which is why the team kept him at DH for most of 2025 to preserve his health for a full season. 

 

[Olerud363.354]

16 minutes ago, Laika said:

I feel like Vlad would have needed that playoff resume to justify the contract Toronto gave him before he even done did dat 

It kind of feels hypothetically if he was a free agent the playoff run would be 200 million extra.  Vladimir Guerrero Jr. is an absolute legend who sometimes acts like Josh Bell (the minor league numbers, 2021, the homerun contest, the exit velocities, the gold glove, now the playoff run, but now and then (like all of 2023) he acts like Josh Bell).

Without the playoff run people would be concerned about the long (6-10 months) stretches as Josh Bell, but the playoff run re-affirms that he is and always has been a legend. 

All a moot point now since he is signed.  Hopefully whatever was different (mechanical adjustment, a little rest, just excited about games that really matter?) carries over to 2026.  

[Spanky__99]

Kiley McDaniel's projections, da fuq?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/47314902/mlb-free-agency-2025-26-updated-contract-projections-tucker-bregman-bichette-bellinger

[Laika]

33 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Kiley McDaniel's projections, da fuq?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/47314902/mlb-free-agency-2025-26-updated-contract-projections-tucker-bregman-bichette-bellinger

dude hates Bo lmao 

people are so out to lunch on Bo (some people) if the market is like that he is a steal 

[Jays24]

Just 2 years ago, majority of the fanbase wanted to keep Bo over Vlad.  Now here we are where Vlad got 500M and theres a chance Bo gets below 200M lol.  

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, Spanky__99 said:

Kiley McDaniel's projections, da fuq?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/47314902/mlb-free-agency-2025-26-updated-contract-projections-tucker-bregman-bichette-bellinger

55 minutes ago, Laika said:

dude hates Bo lmao 

people are so out to lunch on Bo (some people) if the market is like that he is a steal 

5/150 is a little light. Whatever the 7 year equivalent is of that, sign me up. Something like 7/180?

 

[Stangstag]

26 minutes ago, Terminator said:

5/150 is a little light. Whatever the 7 year equivalent is of that, sign me up. Something like 7/180?

 

If Bo gets less than 200mil he should be a Blue Jay, no question.

[Jays24]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

If Bo gets less than 200mil he should be a Blue Jay, no question.

Most of us thought the Adames deal was a good comparison.  The only thing that could piss Bo off is that Vlad got 500M and theres no way he thinks Vlad is THAT much better than him. 

Its a hit to the ego regardless of how close they are to each other.  Wild how injuries can change so much in such little time. 

[Spanky__99]

5 hours ago, Laika said:

dude hates Bo lmao 

people are so out to lunch on Bo (some people) if the market is like that he is a steal 

And Tucker is far too much.

[Jonn]

5 years 150 million. Atkins would be doing backflips if he could sign Bo for that.

[Spanky__99]

8 hours ago, Laika said:

I feel like Vlad would have needed that playoff resume to justify the contract Toronto gave him before he even done did dat 

He bent Ross and Mark over, everybody knows it, and everyone is okay with it 

Well, he bent Ed Rogers over, to be more accurate.

[Terminator]

17 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Well, he bent Ed Rogers over, to be more accurate.

[G-Snarls]

 

 

[Omar]

Nothing groundbreaking but anyways...

 

[Stangstag]

25 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

 

 

Oh how the mighty have fallen 

[G-Snarls]

 

 

[bronson44]

Those are pretty good pickups for the Angels

[G-Snarls]

21 minutes ago, bronson44 said:

Those are pretty good pickups for the Angels

High risk but could be significant rewards 

[G-Snarls]

The Angels could win 95 games or they could win 55. 

[Orgfiller]

9 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

The Angels could win 95 games or they could win 55. 

I don't think the Angels are winning 95 games even if Manoah and Romano turn back into their 2022 versions lol. Maybe if that happens and Trout puts up another 8+ WAR season they have a shot.

[Terminator]

13 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

 

 

Remember when people wanted to literally tar and feather Atkins after he non-tendered Romano

[glory]

[G-Snarls]

1 hour ago, Orgfiller said:

I don't think the Angels are winning 95 games even if Manoah and Romano turn back into their 2022 versions lol. Maybe if that happens and Trout puts up another 8+ WAR season they have a shot.

I was exaggerating a bit on the low and high ends 

[L54]

Sounds like 2/22 for Keller 

[Orgfiller]

Like that deal for the Phils. Have to imagine the lack of track record for Keller hurt his market, and the projections aren't super sexy. Good upside play. Makes it even better that they're signing him to be the setup man for Duran, doesn't need to be the top arm in the BP.