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[Stangstag]

1 hour ago, Jonn said:

Ever heard of addition by subtraction? I genuinely feel the Blue Jays are a better Baseball team if Santander is not playing the OF. Your point about Lukes and Davis not being able to duplicate their successes from this past Season are valid. But both are projected to out perform Santander this coming Season. And that's without a platoon or ideal matchups. It's something to consider if given the opportunity.

Santander is projected for like 1 WAR by Steamer right now. That's really a bat we want to squeeze in the lineup to make our OF defense worse? Was one of the strengths of the team last year.

Weren’t you one of the guys that wanted Schwarber? Where exactly was Springer playing after a hypothetical Schwarb signing? Surely you don’t think Springer should be playing the OF daily…

[Jonn]

8 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Well that’s because you are stupid

That’s not very nice!

[Jonn]

4 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

Weren’t you one of the guys that wanted Schwarber? Where exactly was Springer playing after a hypothetical Schwarb signing? Surely you don’t think Springer should be playing the OF daily…

I was. I would have loved to have Schwarber on this team. Although I would prefer Tucker now because I didn’t think he would be an option.

Either way I don’t like the comparison Schwarber is a much much better hitter than Santander. And it’s because he does 2 things at an elite level. Hit Homeruns and get on base. And he does it consistently every year. Santander has had a couple elite homerun hitting Seasons but he does nothing else well. So yes pushing Springer into the OF for him more would have been fine. But Tucker would be ideal.

[Jonn]

54 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

We're stuck with him Jonn, cope.

Sometimes cope is all you have Spanky.

Just saying Santander would be nice pivot option for the Mets. Maybe get in on the Berrios business as well. Jays send them a nice fat cheque and we call it a day.

[Spanky__99]

9 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Sometimes cope is all you have Spanky.

Just saying Santander would be nice pivot option for the Mets. Maybe get in on the Berrios business as well. Jays send them a nice fat cheque and we call it a day.

 

 

[Spanky__99]

The Orioles are casting a wide net to find an impact arm who can slot in the upper half of the rotation. They’ve been tied to Framber Valdez and Ranger Suárez in free agency, as well as trade possibilities like Edward Cabrera, MacKenzie Gore and Freddy Peralta.

[Vancouverite]

51 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Sometimes cope is all you have Spanky.

Just saying Santander would be nice pivot option for the Mets. Maybe get in on the Berrios business as well. Jays send them a nice fat cheque and we call it a day.

If we can get both Bo and Tucker at the expense of dumping Santander and Berrios to the Mets id do it. No questions asked

Springer - DH

Tucker - LF

Vladdy - 1B

Bo - 2B

Barger - RF

Kirk - C

Varsho - CF

Clement - 3B

Gimenez - SS

Schneider, Straw, France, Heiny

Trade Lukes

[bronson44]

I kinda like the deal for Baltimore. I know we laugh at the vetrin presents thing but it is probably good to add a leader to that young group and take some pressure off. They will add to the rotation. I would go after King if I were them. They have Helsley closing and probably can add another tier 2 reliever. 

This division is going to be a battle next year once the dust settles.

[Perfect Game]

 

[Eat My Shatkins]

It wasn't that long Jonn wanted to punt Varsho into the sun too.

Hopefully Taters has a bounce back season in 2026. He's probably slated to be the main DH by 2027 so could still be useful down the road.

Jays still haven't signed Bo or Tucker either, so a healthy Tony Taters could be a very needed bat in 2026.

 

 

 

[The_DH]

and the chance of Santander ever being healthy enough?

[Jonn]

16 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

It wasn't that long Jonn wanted to punt Varsho into the sun too.

Hopefully Taters has a bounce back season in 2026. He's probably slated to be the main DH by 2027 so could still be useful down the road.

Jays still haven't signed Bo or Tucker either, so a healthy Tony Taters could be a very needed bat in 2026.

 

 

 

It’s been a long time actually. And the thing about Varsho he adds value in multiple areas of the game. Yes he’s frustrating at the plate. But often makes it up with his glove.

Anthony Santander is as one dimensional as they come. Please stop glazing a 1 WAR player or ever compare him to a player that put up 3 WAR in his sleep.

[Eat My Shatkins]

1 minute ago, Jonn said:

It’s been a long time actually. And the thing about Varsho he adds value in multiple areas of the game. Yes he’s frustrating at the plate. But often makes it up with his glove.

Anthony Santander is as one dimensional as they come. Please stop glazing a 1 WAR player or ever compare him to a player that put up 3 WAR in his sleep.

I didn't compare them.

I just mentioned how only a year and a half ago you wanted to punt Varsho for nothing. Just wanted him gone. Sounds familiar. 

[Spanky__99]

14 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I didn't compare them.

I just mentioned how only a year and a half ago you wanted to punt Varsho for nothing. Just wanted him gone. Sounds familiar. 

And last offseason it was Springer. Maybe he'll go 3 for 3 and bat a 1.000, with Santander, lol.

[Jonn]

25 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

I didn't compare them.

I just mentioned how only a year and a half ago you wanted to punt Varsho for nothing. Just wanted him gone. Sounds familiar. 

I never wanted Varsho gone for nothing. He was still cheap with team control. Anthony Santander is in a completely different situation. Most teams would probably view him as a negative value player due to his contract.

[Jonn]

11 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

And last offseason it was Springer. Maybe he'll go 3 for 3 and bat a 1.000, with Santander, lol.

Everyone wanted Springer gone lol. Even our media wanted him released in Spring. What he did last Season was incredible. And credit to him for the work he put in and not abandoning that plan when he didn’t get results during Spring.

Moving Santander hinges more on if they sign Tucker. Where does he play if RF and DH is occupied. Do they put him in LF or would they rather play Lukes and Scheneider. It’s just something to think about. He would be an expensive bench bat.

[Spanky__99]

4 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

lol... both. Yes I'd rather have Bo at a fraction of what they're projected to go for, than sign Suarez in my perfectly realistic world. I'm not going to cry if we signed Tucker hopefully it's in the 250 to 300M range. They'd likely have to wait till the deadline for a shutdown guy if that happens.

This guy from ESPN Chicago Jesse Rogers believes Tucker signs here for 250 to 300M depending on term and that he gets 30M AAV. I'm down for something like that.

 

8:10 p.m. ET — Tucker predicted to end up in Toronto

Chicago-based ESPN insider Jesse Rogers was candid about where he thinks Kyle Tucker will end up during an appearance on ESPN 1000's "Waddle and Silvy." Rogers said, "I do think he'll end up in Toronto," adding that "it's just not going to be for the massive, massive deal that maybe a year ago people thought, or he even thought."

[Eat My Shatkins]

11 minutes ago, Jonn said:

I never wanted Varsho gone for nothing. He was still cheap with team control. Anthony Santander is in a completely different situation. Most teams would probably view him as a negative value player due to his contract.

I dunno dude, I seem to remember you saying you wanted Varsho catapulted into the sun. Doesn't seem like you'd get much of a return on that lol.

Anyways,  my point is sometimes we need to be patient. If they land Tucker and/or bring back Bo that changes things, but as it stands right now I'd rather see if the guy bounces back. No sense paying to get rid of him at the lowest value hes had in probably his whole career.

[Spanky__99]

13 minutes ago, Jonn said:

Everyone wanted Springer gone lol. Even our media wanted him released in Spring. What he did last Season was incredible. And credit to him for the work he put in and not abandoning that plan when he didn’t get results during Spring. Moving Santander hinges more on if they sign Tucker. Where does he play if RF and DH is occupied. Do they put him in LF or would they rather play Lukes and Scheneider. It’s just something to think about. He would be an expensive bench bat.

One of Lukes or DS get optioned, Santander plays LF/DH and 1B Jonn, Springer can play LF, it's not rocket science bro. Mountain out of a molehill, dude. Also, I said what I said, you'll end up going 3 for 3 on this.

[Eat My Shatkins]

50 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

This guy from ESPN Chicago Jesse Rogers believes Tucker signs here for 250 to 300M depending on term and that he gets 30M AAV.

 

8:10 p.m. ET — Tucker predicted to end up in Toronto

Chicago-based ESPN insider Jesse Rogers was candid about where he thinks Kyle Tucker will end up during an appearance on ESPN 1000's "Waddle and Silvy." Rogers said, "I do think he'll end up in Toronto," adding that "it's just not going to be for the massive, massive deal that maybe a year ago people thought, or he even thought."

Gawd I hope so. 

[Spanky__99]

9 minutes ago, Eat My Shatkins said:

Gawd I hope so. 

Would be sweet, I'm paraphrasing of course, he said the 2nd half numbers and recent ailments/injuries are concerning and that his market should be 8/250 or 10/300 Max.

It's kind of wild he thinks it's us, surreal if that happens. I think it's near the 10 minute mark on that podcast, have a listen to it. That dude's well known in Chitown.

 

[Jonn]

56 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

One of Lukes or DS get optioned, Santander plays LF/DH and 1B Jonn, Springer can play LF, it's not rocket science bro. Mountain out of a molehill, dude. Also, I said what I said, you'll end up going 3 for 3 on this.

In my opinion you guys are the ones making a huge fuss. I just said he would look get in a Mets uniform! I will stand by that. I would rather they play Lukes over him.

[Spanky__99]

3 minutes ago, Jonn said:

In my opinion you guys are the ones making a huge fuss. I just said he would look get in a Mets uniform! I will stand by that. I would rather they play Lukes over him.

[jaysblue]

I'm not that crazy about Alonso's contract and term for the Orioles. Could end up being really bad from years 3/4-5. 

In the short term however, he gives them a legit middle-of-the-order power bat who likely will thrive in that ballpark and in that lineup. Also, Orioles needed to make a big move so from a PR and optics perspective if they want to convince other MLB free agents, especially some of the top starters, to sign in Baltimore. 

Orioles need to compliment this signing however by either signing a top rotation arm or trading for one. If they don't address their pitching, this move likely won't move the needle much in the big picture. All they'll have is a very scary lineup.

[mphenhef]

10 hours ago, bronson44 said:

I kinda like the deal for Baltimore. I know we laugh at the vetrin presents thing but it is probably good to add a leader to that young group and take some pressure off. They will add to the rotation. I would go after King if I were them. They have Helsley closing and probably can add another tier 2 reliever. 

This division is going to be a battle next year once the dust settles.

Because when you think veteran leader, Pete Alonso and his guard rail humping self immediately come to mind.

[Orgfiller]

13 hours ago, Perfect Game said:

 

Not sure who the Braves were bidding against that they needed to guarantee Yastrzemski 2 years for his ages 35-36 seasons. He currently projects for around 1 WAR as a platoon bat.

Cedric Mullins who's much younger and can still play CF just got 1/7.5

[Laika]

The Ninja strikes again!

[Olerud363.354]

4 hours ago, jaysblue said:

who likely will thrive in that ballpark and in that lineup.

How good is this park for a right handed hitter now?  I think the dimensions are somewhere between the original and the freak show dimensions https://www.mlb.com/news/effect-of-camden-yards-new-dimensions-for-2025.

If Mike Elias is a moron I guess the freak show camden thing might be evidence (for the record I thought he was the greatest GM of all time and about to launch the greatest franchise of the 21st century, 2025 wasn't great evidence for that theory but who knows what the future years will bring).  

Anyway freak show Camden.  Seemed like it was designed to stop Vlad and Judge and Bo and Stanton.  I always thought there would have to be a 5-3 game where Vlad (or Bo or Judge) hit a 415 foot, 115 mph missile to left centre that was caught and the Orioles celebrate, don't remember that game happening to the Jays but maybe it did happen to the Yankees once,  I recall watching the now defunct Michael Kay show, and Kay complaining about something that happened to a Judge 117 mph 420 foot flyball in Camden.

So anyway obviously the Orioles couldn't quite make an all left handed line up (Jackson Holiday, greatest prospect ever, so far is questionable as to that status, just like his GM is to his 'greatest' status,   Cedric Mullins, all star center fielder now journey man, some of their other left handed hitters not panning out, so had to bring in the wall and sign big old slugging first basemen for 150 million. 

[jmomcc]

12 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Would be sweet, I'm paraphrasing of course, he said the 2nd half numbers and recent ailments/injuries are concerning and that his market should be 8/250 or 10/300 Max.

It's kind of wild he thinks it's us, surreal if that happens. I think it's near the 10 minute mark on that podcast, have a listen to it. That dude's well known in Chitown.

 

8/250, get that signed right now and let's move on to Bo. 

[BTS]

38 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Not sure who the Braves were bidding against that they needed to guarantee Yastrzemski 2 years for his ages 35-36 seasons. He currently projects for around 1 WAR as a platoon bat.

Cedric Mullins who's much younger and can still play CF just got 1/7.5

This signing seems kind of stupid. They already have Profar/Harris II/Acuna Jr. every day in the OF. Murphy/Baldwin eating most DH days. 20M for a 4th OF who can't really play CF is just an odd use of resources.