GDT- Rays @ Jays (Game 2/3) George Springer NOT Leading Off

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Wow it looks like my fan club is out in full force today! Multiple mentions by name. I love you all too.

[Terminator]

Team “not panicking” has been REAL quiet these days.

 

We are still here it's just hard to get a word in with all you inbreds (who don't even know how to read a statcast page) gleefully celebrating every loss

[L54]

I think Atkins basically in more or less words said they have a small Window which you would think is June 01 based on the stats you just indicated! Can we see the Jays go 11 wins in next 13 days, probably not more like 5-6. At which point management will be on the phone deciding their strategy for July 31st deadline but the assets of Berios, Gausman could be moved sooner as these guys are not true deadline trade deals.

 

I suspect 2-3 teams will engage the Jays for both those players and two be honest if Atkins goes after the ******** big haul of 3-4 prospects for each one that is the wrong approach! You get a team's #1 prospect and #2 prospect that will be in the lineup next year or this year! Both those guys are #1 pitcher this year with 3-4 years left on Berios and 2 years left on Gausman.

 

I can see Orioles, Royals, Phillies, Braves, and Dodgers right now as best fit for both of these guys and they probably would trade for both as an investment beyond one year and championship run.

 

I suspect June 21 to July 07 both these guys are traded as these teams would benefit with both players in their lineups sooner than later.

 

If Atkins mis-steps, goes for big prospect hauls with nothing in lineup next year he is fired along with Sharpiro by Rogers Board of Directors.

 

This is my fear too that Atkins is in charge of the returns on these guys. Trading Gausman, Berrios, Kikuchi should net you prospects who are making an impact as soon as next season

[Terminator]

This is my fear too that Atkins is in charge of the returns on these guys. Trading Gausman, Berrios, Kikuchi should net you prospects who are making an impact as soon as next season

 

Shapiro would have to get more hands on in that scenario. Or Atkins gets canned and Click is the interim?

[L54]

We are still here it's just hard to get a word in with all you inbreds (who don't even know how to read a statcast page) gleefully celebrating every loss

 

Uh oh not the inbreds!!!

 

Can you read a w/l column? Run differential? Pythag record?

[BTS]

Shapiro would have to get more hands on in that scenario. Or Atkins gets canned and Click is the interim?

 

We need to start a grassroots movement to convince Shapiro to flex Rogers muscle with a poaching of Matt Arnold

[L54]

Shapiro would have to get more hands on in that scenario. Or Atkins gets canned and Click is the interim?

 

I would prefer a brand new set of eyes given the autonomy to make their own decisions. I’ve said before I have no idea of potential replacements and see no point in speculating on guys I know next to nothing about

[AMS528]

We are still here it's just hard to get a word in with all you inbreds (who don't even know how to read a statcast page) gleefully celebrating every loss

 

I don't know man. I've seen Bichettes, Kirk's, Springer's, Varsho and KK's statcast pages.

 

And it definitely feels like there's been plenty of reason for it.

[glory]

Shapiro’s contract ends after 2025 and Atkins after 2026. They have no in incentive to rebuild, and they won’t. At most they will trade the impending free agents, slither under the luxury tax to reset the penalties, and try again in 2025. I don’t see any realistic scenario where they trade anyone controlled through 2025 unless it’s someone insignificant. Maybe Atkins surprises us and gets a haul for Kikuchi and Garcia, but I have a feeling that Chris Black guy on Twitter will be working overtime trying to gas up the slapdick prospects the Jays get back at the deadline.

[Stangstag]

I think Atkins basically in more or less words said they have a small Window which you would think is June 01 based on the stats you just indicated! Can we see the Jays go 11 wins in next 13 days, probably not more like 5-6. At which point management will be on the phone deciding their strategy for July 31st deadline but the assets of Berios, Gausman could be moved sooner as these guys are not true deadline trade deals.

 

I suspect 2-3 teams will engage the Jays for both those players and two be honest if Atkins goes after the ******** big haul of 3-4 prospects for each one that is the wrong approach! You get a team's #1 prospect and #2 prospect that will be in the lineup next year or this year! Both those guys are #1 pitcher this year with 3-4 years left on Berios and 2 years left on Gausman.

 

I can see Orioles, Royals, Phillies, Braves, and Dodgers right now as best fit for both of these guys and they probably would trade for both as an investment beyond one year and championship run.

 

I suspect June 21 to July 07 both these guys are traded as these teams would benefit with both players in their lineups sooner than later.

 

If Atkins mis-steps, goes for big prospect hauls with nothing in lineup next year he is fired along with Sharpiro by Rogers Board of Directors.

 

Big trades don’t happen until late July. Very rare to see anything of note happen before we get much closer to the deadline.

[Stangstag]

We are still here it's just hard to get a word in with all you inbreds (who don't even know how to read a statcast page) gleefully celebrating every loss

 

Too bad the statcast page doesn’t translate to real-world wins

 

Touch grass sometime kid

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Too bad the statcast page doesn’t translate to real-world wins

 

Touch grass sometime kid

 

Lol yes it does you dummy.

 

You just don’t know how to read it. Let me help by dumbing it down for you:

 

Red = good, blue = bad

 

We’ve got a lot of blue going on right now.

[Stangstag]

Lol yes it does you dummy.

 

You just don’t know how to read it. Let me help by dumbing it down for you:

 

Red = good, blue = bad

 

We’ve got a lot of blue going on right now.

 

Funny how you just spew out personal insults and attacks when you know you’re wrong. Keep it up good sheriff

[L54]

Lol yes it does you dummy.

 

You just don’t know how to read it. Let me help by dumbing it down for you:

 

Red = good, blue = bad

 

We’ve got a lot of blue going on right now.

 

What are you referencing “we” have a lot of blue right now?

 

Good players are more likely to have red

 

Bad players are more likely to have blue!

 

Good teams are more likely to have good players

 

Bad teams are more likely to be supported by you

[Stangstag]

What are you referencing “we” have a lot of blue right now?

 

Good players are more likely to have red

 

Bad players are more likely to have blue!

 

Good teams are more likely to have good players

 

Bad teams are more likely to be supported by you

 

Are good teams supposed to have a negative run differential or have I been misled??

[Terminator]

What are you referencing “we” have a lot of blue right now?

 

Good players are more likely to have red

 

Bad players are more likely to have blue!

 

Good teams are more likely to have good players

 

Bad teams are more likely to be supported by you

 

Wow I say one negative thing to your butt buddy and you come rushing in to defend his honor with a nursery rhyme lmao

 

I don’t know who nicknamed you L54IQ and I refuse to use it because it’s too mean but he really was on to something there

[L54]

Wow I say one negative thing to your butt buddy and you come rushing in to defend his honor with a nursery rhyme lmao

 

I don’t know who nicknamed you L54IQ and I refuse to use it because it’s too mean but he really was on to something there

 

Sorry is there something wrong with butt buddies?

[Terminator]

Funny how you just spew out personal insults and attacks when you know you’re wrong. Keep it up good sheriff

 

Lol don't be so sensitive. You said something clearly wrong about Statcast and then told me to touch grass. Calling someone a dummy is a similar level of attack. You just feel extra bad because I completely dismantled your garbage point about how Statcast doesn't translate to wins.

[L54]

Lol don't be so sensitive. You said something clearly wrong about Statcast and then told me to touch grass. Calling someone a dummy is a similar level of attack. You just feel extra bad because I completely dismantled your garbage point about how Statcast doesn't translate to wins.

 

Please explain what you mean by statcast translating to wins

[Spanky99]

[connorp]

What are you referencing “we” have a lot of blue right now?

 

Good players are more likely to have red

 

Bad players are more likely to have blue!

 

Good teams are more likely to have good players

 

Bad teams are more likely to be supported by you

 

Yea, I’m not sure of the point being made there. Seems counterproductive to what that side of the argument was. Maybe I have a 54IQ too though, idk.

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Please explain what you mean by statcast translating to wins

 

Ok "Red = Good" and nursery rhymes aren't working so let's bump this up to a 5th grade level and maybe it will help you and StankyLeg out.

 

Statcast tracks and quantifies the things happening on the field. Good statcast metrics should lead to better results on the field, which should lead to better W-L records, especially over time. Really simple stuff.

[L54]

Ok "Red = Good" and nursery rhymes aren't working so let's bump this up to a 5th grade level and maybe it will help you and StankyLeg out.

 

Statcast tracks and quantifies the things happening on the field. Good statcast metrics should lead to better results on the field, which should lead to better W-L records, especially over time.

 

Yes please share which statcast metrics are you referencing

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Yes please share which statcast metrics are you referencing

 

I'm referencing ALL of the statcast metrics in a general sense.

 

StankyLeg says Statcast doesn't translate to wins, you seemingly agree with him, and I've done the best I can to explain to you both how it does. If you're still struggling I'm not sure I can help you any further.

 

It all makes sense now as to why the most advanced stat I've ever seen you reference is run differential. lol

[L54]

We are still here it's just hard to get a word in with all you inbreds (who don't even know how to read a statcast page) gleefully celebrating every loss

 

Lol yes it does you dummy.

 

You just don’t know how to read it. Let me help by dumbing it down for you:

 

Red = good, blue = bad

 

We’ve got a lot of blue going on right now.

 

I'm referencing ALL of the statcast metrics in a general sense.

 

StankyLeg says Statcast doesn't translate to wins, you seemingly agree with him, and I've done the best I can to explain to you both how it does. If you're still struggling I'm not sure I can help you any further.

 

It all makes sense now as to why the most advanced stat I've ever seen you reference is run differential. lol

 

You aren’t making sense to anyone at this point. If anyone else understands what he’s trying to say in a roundabout way please feel free to translate to English

 

From your posts it seems like you think that because the statcast pages of Blue Jays players have a lot of blue that they should be better than they are. Yet you acknowledge blue is bad. Okay?

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You aren’t making sense to anyone at this point. If anyone else understands what he’s trying to say in a roundabout way please feel free to translate to English

 

From your posts it seems like you think that because the statcast pages of Blue Jays players have a lot of blue that they should be better than they are. Yet you acknowledge blue is bad. Okay?

 

Nope, never said that. Read the quoted posts again and let me know where you think I did. Your reading comprehension is about as good as your grasp on advanced stats.

 

All I've said from the get go is that Stankyleg is wrong to discard Statcast by saying it doesn't translate to wins. It most definitely does translate to wins and losses. Jays have been ass and their blue statcast pages prove it.

[Spanky99]

lol

[Omar]

Nope, never said that. Read the quoted posts again and let me know where you think I did. Your reading comprehension is about as good as your grasp on advanced stats.

 

All I've said from the get go is that Stankyleg is wrong to discard Statcast by saying it doesn't translate to wins. It most definitely does translate to wins and losses. Jays have been ass and their blue statcast pages prove it.

 

Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that because the Dodgers have a sea of red on their statcast page it means they're good? I'll be damned.

[L54]

Nope, never said that. Read the quoted posts again and let me know where you think I did. Your reading comprehension is about as good as your grasp on advanced stats.

 

All I've said from the get go is that Stankyleg is wrong to discard Statcast by saying it doesn't translate to wins. It most definitely does translate to wins and losses. Jays have been ass and their blue statcast pages prove it.

 

They don’t translate to wins. They just don’t

 

Just like Steamer doesn’t. Or ZiPS. Or whatever projection system

[L54]

Wait a second. Are you trying to tell me that because the Dodgers have a sea of red on their statcast page it means they're good? I'll be damned.

 

You’re aware that the Dodgers don’t have their own statcast page right?