Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Everything Atkins does either SUCKS or feels like it sucks until you drink the kool-aid and convince yourself that it did not suck. Which, to his credit, sometimes the kool-aid is right. Turner - sucks. no kool-aid. IKF - feels sucky. but the kool-aid is right. Varsho trade - feels sucky, trading #1 prospect for .220 hitter, but maybe the kool-aid is right because Moreno is meh. Teoscar trade - feels sucky, kool-aid tasted okay last year, then Swanson retired to AAA and it doesn't taste as good but wait Adam Macko kool-aid is coming! Springer - The inverse Atkins. Exciting and feels good at first, but the kool-aid is rancid. Bassitt trade - feels sucky. innings-eater kool-aid takes the edge off though. Berrios trade/extension - feels sucky, then kool-aid of innings eating helps, then he gets hammered because he's an SP4 and it feels sucky again Kikuchi - feels sucky, did suck, then he made his own kool-aid One of the only things he has done that just seemed good right away and has been great was the Gausman signing. Everything else is either ick or feels ick at times. Just a bunch of f***ing icks. I just keep coming back to the simple fact that everything would be much better if the core they'd chosen to build around had lived up to it's potential. IMO Atkins built a good team around a rotten core. A 5-7 WAR Vlad (which we had in 2022) A 4-5 WAR Bo (which we had 2021-2023) A 5-6 WAR catching tandem (which we had in 2023) The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)? That question needs to be answered for sure.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet Bring Biggio Back!
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Bring Biggio Back! The bottom really fell out when he left didn't it?
BigCecil Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet Thats because you are Team Debbie Upper and a man of the people.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Thats because you are Team Debbie Upper and a man of the people. I might owe someone an apology or two in the form of a Swiss Chalet gift card...
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 I just keep coming back to the simple fact that everything would be much better if the core they'd chosen to build around had lived up to it's potential. IMO Atkins built a good team around a rotten core. A 5-7 WAR Vlad (which we had in 2022) A 4-5 WAR Bo (which we had 2021-2023) A 5-6 WAR catching tandem (which we had in 2023) The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)? That question needs to be answered for sure. They got rid of that blazer in the dugout and brought the OF walls in making it impossible to hit homers.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 (edited) I might owe someone an apology or two in the form of a Swiss Chalet gift card... The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been beside myself ever since. Edited June 24, 2024 by wilko
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been besides myself ever since. First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to?
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to? If Arby's shuts down, I'm finished!
BatFlip Verified Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to? The endless shrimp was the final nail in the coffin for Red Lobster. Now Swiss Chalet is offering endless ribs... I don't have a good feeling about this.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 The endless shrimp was the final nail in the coffin for Red Lobster. Now Swiss Chalet is offering endless ribs... I don't have a good feeling about this. Check this story out. Instagram WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM
BatFlip Verified Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Check this story out. Instagram WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM Wow. I'm a full blown capitalist, but this sir is a crime against humanity.
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)? That question needs to be answered for sure. Take a time machine back to late 2019. Two things would be apparent. 1. There was a cheating scandal, stealing signs was helpful 2. Guys were still (and still are) getting suspended for PEDs. Logically it will be helpful to know what pitch is coming and be more alert and stronger. You need to find ways to achieve this without getting disciplinary suspensions 1. Do bad things but don't get caught. 2. Figure out hacks to get the same effect legally. As fans we have no idea what is actually happening behind the scenes to enhance performance. Some teams know what is happening on these fronts, the Jays are not one of them.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Check this story out. Instagram WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM Hahaha wow that’s actually wild
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Hahaha wow that’s actually wild It sure is (assuming it's real). Seems like it shouldn't be legal, but I guess it is?
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been beside myself ever since. St. Hubert is way better than Swiss Chalet!
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 St. Hubert is way better than Swiss Chalet! What in the hell is St. Hubert?
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 What in the hell is St. Hubert? Need to travel to Quebec haha. But they had some locations in the GTA. Pretty much identical to Swiss Chalet, but way better!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 What in the hell is St. Hubert? Same concept and good, more a Quebec and American chain than Toronto. They went basically obsolete here, though.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Need to travel to Quebec haha. But they had some locations in the GTA. Pretty much identical to Swiss Chalet, but way better! Ottawa has a couple. None in the gta i think.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Same concept and good, more a Quebec and American chain than Toronto. They went basically obsolete here, though. Yeah they made a deal with Swiss Chalet to get out of Ontario and that Swiss Chalet would stay out of Quebec. There are still some in Ottawa like Omar said though.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Ottawa has a couple. None in the gta i think. They had three I believe in the GTA before. One on Avenue Road, one near Sherway and another one in Mississauga.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 They had three I believe in the GTA before. One on Avenue Road, one near Sherway and another one in Mississauga. Might as well be Quebec
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Time to close this thread? No.... we will pick up steam here in the last few weeks in the race for a good draft pick
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 25, 2024 Author Posted June 25, 2024 It's positive (kind of nice) that the path was made so clear There is a blessing in that No more fooling around or pretending that they have a chance Let the healing process begin. Closure.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 Summer has officially been ruined folks I hope Ross Atkins feels terrible about it
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 25, 2024 Author Posted June 25, 2024 Summer has officially been ruined folks I hope Ross Atkins feels terrible about it if only he signed tee-oscar!!!!!!!!!!!!
John_Havok Old-Timey Member Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 It's positive (kind of nice) that the path was made so clear There is a blessing in that No more fooling around or pretending that they have a chance Let the healing process begin. Closure. Awe man, just when Vlad starting hitting fastballs in the air for HRs again....
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