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Everything Atkins does either SUCKS or feels like it sucks until you drink the kool-aid and convince yourself that it did not suck. Which, to his credit, sometimes the kool-aid is right.

 

Turner - sucks. no kool-aid.

IKF - feels sucky. but the kool-aid is right.

Varsho trade - feels sucky, trading #1 prospect for .220 hitter, but maybe the kool-aid is right because Moreno is meh.

Teoscar trade - feels sucky, kool-aid tasted okay last year, then Swanson retired to AAA and it doesn't taste as good but wait Adam Macko kool-aid is coming!

Springer - The inverse Atkins. Exciting and feels good at first, but the kool-aid is rancid.

Bassitt trade - feels sucky. innings-eater kool-aid takes the edge off though.

Berrios trade/extension - feels sucky, then kool-aid of innings eating helps, then he gets hammered because he's an SP4 and it feels sucky again

Kikuchi - feels sucky, did suck, then he made his own kool-aid

 

 

One of the only things he has done that just seemed good right away and has been great was the Gausman signing.

 

Everything else is either ick or feels ick at times.

 

Just a bunch of f***ing icks.

 

 

 

I just keep coming back to the simple fact that everything would be much better if the core they'd chosen to build around had lived up to it's potential.

 

IMO Atkins built a good team around a rotten core.

 

A 5-7 WAR Vlad (which we had in 2022)

A 4-5 WAR Bo (which we had 2021-2023)

A 5-6 WAR catching tandem (which we had in 2023)

 

The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)?

 

That question needs to be answered for sure.

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my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet

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my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet

 

Bring Biggio Back!

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my reaction when everyone on Team Positive is catching strays left and right during a 6 game losing streak but somehow I haven't been mentioned yet

 

Thats because you are Team Debbie Upper and a man of the people.

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Thats because you are Team Debbie Upper and a man of the people.

 

I might owe someone an apology or two in the form of a Swiss Chalet gift card...

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I just keep coming back to the simple fact that everything would be much better if the core they'd chosen to build around had lived up to it's potential.

 

IMO Atkins built a good team around a rotten core.

 

A 5-7 WAR Vlad (which we had in 2022)

A 4-5 WAR Bo (which we had 2021-2023)

A 5-6 WAR catching tandem (which we had in 2023)

 

The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)?

 

That question needs to be answered for sure.

 

They got rid of that blazer in the dugout and brought the OF walls in making it impossible to hit homers.

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I might owe someone an apology or two in the form of a Swiss Chalet gift card...

 

The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been beside myself ever since.

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The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been besides myself ever since.

 

First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to?

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First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to?

 

If Arby's shuts down, I'm finished!

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First Red Lobster, now Swiss Chalet? What is this world coming to?

 

The endless shrimp was the final nail in the coffin for Red Lobster. Now Swiss Chalet is offering endless ribs... I don't have a good feeling about this.

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The endless shrimp was the final nail in the coffin for Red Lobster. Now Swiss Chalet is offering endless ribs... I don't have a good feeling about this.

 

Check this story out.

 

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The big question is why did the core kool-aid turn rotten? Was it an inevitability (IQ levels, physical conditioning, etc) or is it something the Jays did to cause it (coaching, team philosophy, etc)?

 

That question needs to be answered for sure.

 

Take a time machine back to late 2019. Two things would be apparent.

 

1. There was a cheating scandal, stealing signs was helpful

2. Guys were still (and still are) getting suspended for PEDs.

 

Logically it will be helpful to know what pitch is coming and be more alert and stronger. You need to find ways to achieve this without getting disciplinary suspensions

 

1. Do bad things but don't get caught.

2. Figure out hacks to get the same effect legally.

 

As fans we have no idea what is actually happening behind the scenes to enhance performance. Some teams know what is happening on these fronts, the Jays are not one of them.

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The Swiss Chalet near me closed. I've been beside myself ever since.

 

St. Hubert is way better than Swiss Chalet!

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St. Hubert is way better than Swiss Chalet!

 

What in the hell is St. Hubert?

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What in the hell is St. Hubert?

 

Need to travel to Quebec haha. But they had some locations in the GTA.

 

Pretty much identical to Swiss Chalet, but way better!

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What in the hell is St. Hubert?

 

Same concept and good, more a Quebec and American chain than Toronto. They went basically obsolete here, though.

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Need to travel to Quebec haha. But they had some locations in the GTA.

 

Pretty much identical to Swiss Chalet, but way better!

 

Ottawa has a couple. None in the gta i think.

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Same concept and good, more a Quebec and American chain than Toronto. They went basically obsolete here, though.

 

Yeah they made a deal with Swiss Chalet to get out of Ontario and that Swiss Chalet would stay out of Quebec.

 

There are still some in Ottawa like Omar said though.

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Ottawa has a couple. None in the gta i think.

 

They had three I believe in the GTA before. One on Avenue Road, one near Sherway and another one in Mississauga.

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They had three I believe in the GTA before. One on Avenue Road, one near Sherway and another one in Mississauga.

 

Might as well be Quebec

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Time to close this thread?

 

No.... we will pick up steam here in the last few weeks in the race for a good draft pick

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It's positive (kind of nice) that the path was made so clear

 

There is a blessing in that

 

No more fooling around or pretending that they have a chance

 

Let the healing process begin. Closure.

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Summer has officially been ruined folks

 

I hope Ross Atkins feels terrible about it

 

if only he signed tee-oscar!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's positive (kind of nice) that the path was made so clear

 

There is a blessing in that

 

No more fooling around or pretending that they have a chance

 

Let the healing process begin. Closure.

 

Awe man, just when Vlad starting hitting fastballs in the air for HRs again....

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