Ohtani Thread - Special Sheriff's Edition (Update: confirmed going to the Dodgers)

[Eat My Shatkins]

Those names make me puke.. We can't go balls in and then count on those guys, or guys who don't even have a cup of coffee in MLB to be a factor.

 

Well it's a worst case really, and it's also just replacement level filler. The heavy lifting needs to be done mostly by others, all these guys need to do is not drag the team down.

 

And you never know man, Schneider came up and had 2+ fWAR out of nowhere.

[max silver]

Well, it would leave 3B, LF and 2B kind of question marks I guess??

 

But there would be Biggio, Espinal, Schneider, Barger, Orelvis, Lantigua, Lopez, Roden, Clement, Horwitz, Morris, Palmegiani, Jiminez to potentially fill out those spots. Some of that mud has to stick right?

 

Second base in easily covered by some combination of Schneider, Biggio and Espinal assuming all 3 are still on the roster come spring time. I don't really think the organization has anyone suited for full time play at third base for next season, although Biggio looked surprisingly competent in his stint there in 2023. Perhaps Palemgiani, Barger and Orelvis could be future options, but Barger has been spending an increasing amount of time in right field, and Orelvis has been spending a lot of time at second base so it doesn't appear the organization is sold on either of these guys as long term third base options.

 

I do think Roden has a great shot to be the left fielder of the future as the dude has done nothing but hit at every stop along the way, but I'd hope the organization would bring in a more proven hitter for full time duty in the chance that Roden isn't able to produce in MLB at this point of his career.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Signing Yama and Ohtani would be nucking futs. Talk about an embarrassment of riches when it comes to pitching.

 

Gausman

Yama

Berrios

Bassitt

Kikuchi

Manoah

Tiedemann

Plus you have a legit ACE in Ohtani tucked away for the future

[L54]

Are those posts from Truth Social?

[RobinThicc]

Unless Yamamoto is taking considerably less than what he's expected to sign for, doubt it.

 

Ohtani is not even likely to sign with the Jays, let alone both. Atkins already said they cant get two guys at the top of the market.

[max silver]

Are those posts from Truth Social?

 

Aren't you a subscriber?

[L54]

Aren't you a subscriber?

 

No I’m a Tweeter

[L54]

An X’er I guess now

[Jays24]

Those names make me puke.. We can't go balls in and then count on those guys, or guys who don't even have a cup of coffee in MLB to be a factor.

 

If we did go after Yamamoto then I think we trade one of our starters for help. Biggio/Schneider platooning at 2B is fine. Just need to fill 3B and LF.

 

And who knows, maybe Vlad gets skinny and plays 3B for a season with Ohtani at 1B lol. Then go get a cheap DH/LF from free agency/trade.

 

RF Springer

3B Vlad

1B Ohtani

SS Bo

LF (the Return from one of our starters)

DH Belt

C Kirk/Jansan

CF Varsho

2B Biggio/Schneider

Edited December 7, 2023 by Jays24

[Jimcanuck]

All the Japanese guys are coming to Toronto. Blue Jays will be a two country team.

[Jays24]

If they could somehow pull Ohtani and Yamamoto....

 

You probably just dump Manoah to fill one of the holes and then cheap out at the other positions.

 

I'd disagree... think we keep Manoah in that situation strictly due to his cost. We trade whoever gets the bigger return from Berrios/Bassit to offset the salary.

[Jays24]

All the Japanese guys are coming to Toronto. Blue Jays will be a two country team.

 

Better than their strategy last offseaaon to get only white folks lol

[Brownie19]

If they could somehow pull Ohtani and Yamamoto....

 

You probably just dump Manoah to fill one of the holes and then cheap out at the other positions.

 

3rd: Manoah for Reds infielder (Marte, Steer, etc.)

2nd: In-house (Schneider, Biggio, Espy)

LF: Dumpster diving. LF is one of the easiest positions to fill in baseball. Renfroe, Duvall, etc. Vets will want to play LF in Toronto if we land Ohtani and Yama.

[L54]

If we did go after Yamamoto then I think we trade one of our starters for help. Biggio/Schneider platooning at 2B is fine. Just need to fill 3B and LF.

 

And who knows, maybe Vlad gets skinny and plays 3B for a season while Ohtani plays 1B and re-sign Belt for cheap instead lol

 

RF Springer

3B Vlad

1B Ohtani

SS Bo

LF (the Return from one of our starters)

DH Belt

C Kirk/Jansan

CF Varsho

2B Biggio/Schneider

 

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[Eat My Shatkins]

I'd hate to trade Manoah right now after that s*** season. If he bounces back you'd get a f***ing massive return next off season.

 

Of course, there is a risk that he'd tank his value completely. Hopefully the FO has a good idea if he can bounce back or not.

 

Gausman

Berrios

Yamamoto

Kikuchi

Bassitt

 

Hard for him to bounce back though, if he doesn't even have a rotation spot lol

 

God I hope they get Yama

[max silver]

I'd hate to trade Manoah right now after that s*** season. If he bounces back you'd get a f***ing massive return next off season.

 

Of course, there is a risk that he'd tank his value completely. Hopefully the FO has a good idea if he can bounce back or not.

 

Gausman

Berrios

Yamamoto

Kikuchi

Bassitt

 

Hard for him to bounce back though, if he doesn't even have a rotation spot lol

 

God I hope they get Yama

 

If Alek put up huge numbers in AAA including a full return of his stuff (assuming of course he didn't throw a hissy fit and refuse to report) he would likely rebuild a lot of trade value.

[mellowgold]

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For retarded?

[Ehjays]

I'd love to see the Jays somehow get Isaac Paredes from Tampa. If there is any chance at all.

[glory]

Pivoting to Yamamoto after losing out on Ohtani would make sense but both would be insane, and very unlikely. But if the Jays can make it happen, then go for it. There are ways to shed salary elsewhere if that dream is even remotely possible.

[Jays24]

Pivoting to Yamamoto after losing out on Ohtani would make sense but both would be insane, and very unlikely. But if the Jays can make it happen, then go for it. There are ways to shed salary elsewhere if that dream is even remotely possible.

 

There is no way Yamamoto asks to meet with us if Ohtani doesn't come here. Trading one of Bassitt/Berrios will be very easy to do while being able to use this as a way to fill 3B/LF.

[max silver]

There is no way Yamamoto asks to meet with us if Ohtani doesn't come here. Trading one of Bassitt/Berrios will be very easy to do while being able to use this as a way to fill 3B/LF.

 

Why not? If the team is offering mega bucks for a prospective contract it's perfectly reasonable for him to meet with the team.

[MikeM3]

Ohtani and Yamamoto is only like a billion dollars. No problem

[Jays24]

Why not? If the team is offering mega bucks for a prospective contract it's perfectly reasonable for him to meet with the team.

 

The report posted earlier in the thread says he went out of his way to ask to meet with us. Just makes sense if that's tied to Ohtani simply because I don't think we'd be the highest bidder when we have major holes elsewhere.

[mphenhef]

Those names make me puke.. We can't go balls in and then count on those guys, or guys who don't even have a cup of coffee in MLB to be a factor.

 

Maybe you go with those guys and then upgrade at the deadline if you need to. Maybe Schneider is legit and one of Orelvis/Barger breaks through...they likely have time to figure some of that out.

[max silver]

Ohtani and Yamamoto is only like a billion dollars. No problem

 

Or 10 billion dollars in Canadian pesos.

[Rusty_Savage]

The report posted earlier in the thread says he went out of his way to ask to meet with us. Just makes sense if that's tied to Ohtani simply because I don't think we'd be the highest bidder when we have major holes elsewhere.

Maybe the fact that pitchers excel here has him wanting to sign with the Jays. Maybe hes talked to kikuchi. There are numerous reasons why he would choose the Jays that don't include Ohtani

 

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[Terminator]

If they could somehow pull Ohtani and Yamamoto....

 

You probably just dump Manoah to fill one of the holes and then cheap out at the other positions.

 

It’d be like the NBA when a team puts together a super team. Like the Heat signing Lebron and Bosh to go with Wade. You could fill out the rest of the spots with ring chasing vets on cheap deals. And then trade Manoah for Fraley or something.

[max silver]

It’d be like the NBA when a team puts together a super team. Like the Heat signing Lebron and Bosh to go with Wade. You could fill out the rest of the spots with ring chasing vets on cheap deals. And then trade Manoah for Fraley or something.

 

Maybe Rogers is going full in on creating a Japanese super team to completely corner the Japanese media market.

[Jimcanuck]

Maybe Rogers is going full in on creating a Japanese super team to completely corner the Japanese media market.

 

City of Toronto should definitely pitch in. Consider the tourism money coming in.

[connorp]

City of Toronto should definitely pitch in. Consider the tourism money coming in.

 

Fix the homeless situation first, so people actually can come there and not be skeeved out