burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Haven't really seen or heard it anywhere but given Ohtani isn't going to pitch at all this year any chance he would play 1st base? The guy is a freak athlete and pretty tall so you think he would be a pretty decent defender there. I know Vladdy plays first as well but he was god awful defensively last year and a good defense there would be an upgrade.
dauv Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I heard the kibo Sushi house restaurant are naming a new sushi called the Ohtani xCalifornia Roll
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Haven't really seen or heard it anywhere but given Ohtani isn't going to pitch at all this year any chance he would play 1st base? The guy is a freak athlete and pretty tall so you think he would be a pretty decent defender there. I know Vladdy plays first as well but he was god awful defensively last year and a good defense there would be an upgrade. But Vladdy is getting in shape...... AGAIN
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I heard the kibo Sushi house restaurant are naming a new sushi called the Ohtani xCalifornia Roll The Canada roll. Has moose and poutine vs the California roll with Shrimp and Avocado.
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Atkins has handled this perfectly. His ability to speak without saying anything of significance has been great. He's been able to praise Ohtani while at the same time respecting his wishes to keep everything private. His lapdog manager has received the marching orders and is doing the same. It's been a masterclass in how to court a superstar who has major privacy concerns. I wonder how Atkins talk (a lot of words amounting to nothing) translates into Japanese?
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Haven't really seen or heard it anywhere but given Ohtani isn't going to pitch at all this year any chance he would play 1st base? The guy is a freak athlete and pretty tall so you think he would be a pretty decent defender there. I know Vladdy plays first as well but he was god awful defensively last year and a good defense there would be an upgrade. For that reason, I suggested Ohtani plays 1B and Vladdy tries 3B for 1 season with him getting in shape AGAIN. If Vladdy sucks then back to 1B with Ohtani being a DH since he's gonna go back to pitching anyways. That's one less hole we'll have where we can spend more easily on LF.
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Haven't really seen or heard it anywhere but given Ohtani isn't going to pitch at all this year any chance he would play 1st base? The guy is a freak athlete and pretty tall so you think he would be a pretty decent defender there. I know Vladdy plays first as well but he was god awful defensively last year and a good defense there would be an upgrade. I don't think there would be any chance he'd be able to play first base unless he had strict orders to never throw the ball to the other bases. Even then I don't think it would be wise to do anything that would add to his overall workload and potentially compromise his ability to recuperate from the ligament surgery.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 But Vladdy is getting in shape...... AGAIN lol I look forward to a time when I don't have to see off season pictures of the obese trio "getting in shape" anymore. Hopefully all traded in the next couple seasons so we don't have to watch them balloon up in their late 20's and early 30's because they can't control their eating habits and now have fat juicy contracts and financial security locked in.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Feels like this will go on for 960 hours
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don't think there would be any chance he'd be able to play first base unless he had strict orders to never throw the ball to the other bases. Even then I don't think it would be wise to do anything that would add to his overall workload and potentially compromise his ability to recuperate from the ligament surgery. Yeah - I don't know if you can compare this to Bryce Harper coming back from TJS to play 1st base. Given Ohtani will be working back to pitch again, I suspect the restrictions would be different than they were for Harper.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Hope Shohei decides to come to the Jays, otherwise I will be very disappointed with the FO FFS, it's like Jays24 and jaysblue f***ed and had a child.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 FFS, it's like Jays24 and jaysblue f***ed and had a child. Hahaha
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah - I don't know if you can compare this to Bryce Harper coming back from TJS to play 1st base. Given Ohtani will be working back to pitch again, I suspect the restrictions would be different than they were for Harper. It appears as though Harper first played first base about 8 months after his surgery. If Ohtani were to come back on a similar timeline it would place his return towards the end of May. It was an internal brace procedure and not full Tommy John surgery, but I don't know how this affects the overall recovery time vs the full procedure. I know for me personally I would choose to be ultra conservative and fully protect my $600 million investment having Ohtani DH only and fully avoid sending Ohtani to the field for the entirety of 2024.
jaysthebest Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 FFS, it's like Jays24 and jaysblue f***ed and had a child. I'm sorry that I am being critical of your beloved Shatkins. If we end up re-signing Chapman, and signing other 1-year vets like last year, we won't have any success in the playoffs.
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 It appears as though Harper first played first base about 8 months after his surgery. If Ohtani were to come back on a similar timeline it would place his return towards the end of May. It was an internal brace procedure and not full Tommy John surgery, but I don't know how this affects the overall recovery time vs the full procedure. I know for me personally I would choose to be ultra conservative and fully protect my $600 million investment having Ohtani DH only and fully avoid sending Ohtani to the field for the entirety of 2024. Absolutely agree. We want Ohtani pitching at a high level in 2025 and beyond if he's a Jay. No need to increase the risk by sticking him in the field, much less 1B when we have a multitude of guys to play that position.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don't think there would be any chance he'd be able to play first base unless he had strict orders to never throw the ball to the other bases. Even then I don't think it would be wise to do anything that would add to his overall workload and potentially compromise his ability to recuperate from the ligament surgery. Yeah I figured the first half of the season he wouldn't be able to pay but the second half when he's 9 months removed from surgery maybe there would be the chance. Probably not worth the risk of him getting hurt more for an extra win or whatever the upgrade on defense would be.
RobinThicc Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Anybody got any good Ohtani to the Jays rumors? I don't care how flimsy they are just send 'em my way. Heres some flimsy s*** for you to enjoy
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah I figured the first half of the season he wouldn't be able to pay but the second half when he's 9 months removed from surgery maybe there would be the chance. Probably not worth the risk of him getting hurt more for an extra win or whatever the upgrade on defense would be. I don't think the team would gain an extra win in overall value by playing Ohtani at first base vs more experienced options like Vlad, Biggio, Hortwitz etc. He would be facing a steep learning curve as it's doubtful he's played the position as a professional and would be facing an uphill battle to even become an average defender there in such a short time span. Of course Vlad was positively awful in 2023, but I suspect he will most likely be quite a bit better there in 2024.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 FFS, it's like Jays24 and jaysblue f***ed and had a child. And what a sexy baby that'd be
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Really curious what would happen if Ohtani signs a deal and then fails the physical or the team sees something in his arm where they don't want to commit the same number. His agency is already so secretive about the elbow injury he had.
burlingtonbandit Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don't think the team would gain an extra win in overall value by playing Ohtani at first base vs more experienced options like Vlad, Biggio, Hortwitz etc. He would be facing a steep learning curve as it's doubtful he's played the position as a professional and would be facing an uphill battle to even become an average defender there in such a short time span. Of course Vlad was positively awful in 2023, but I suspect he will most likely be quite a bit better there in 2024. You would hope but he had -13 OAA last year alone and eye test he looked awful too. -4 in each of the previous years. If Horowitz sees any meaningful time with the club this year something went drastically wrong. You don't sign Ohtani and then fill out the roster with crap.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don't think the team would gain an extra win in overall value by playing Ohtani at first base vs more experienced options like Vlad, Biggio, Hortwitz etc. He would be facing a steep learning curve as it's doubtful he's played the position as a professional and would be facing an uphill battle to even become an average defender there in such a short time span. Of course Vlad was positively awful in 2023, but I suspect he will most likely be quite a bit better there in 2024. I'd disagree. Ohtani is a Supreme athlete and has the perfect size to learn and play 1B. From my experience, if you can play any position on the field then you can easily play 1B as long as you have the bat to make it worth the hassle. Ohtani is probably gonna end up there once his pitching days are done anyways.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 For retarded? I’m glad somebody got my joke
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Really curious what would happen if Ohtani signs a deal and then fails the physical or the team sees something in his arm where they don't want to commit the same number. His agency is already so secretive about the elbow injury he had. That would be weird for a team to see something in his still healing surgically repaired ligament that would scare them off. If he failed a physical it would be the Carlos Correa situation times infinity though.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I'm sorry that I am being critical of your beloved Shatkins. If we end up re-signing Chapman, and signing other 1-year vets like last year, we won't have any success in the playoffs. You have no idea if that's true. You don't. Don't pretend you do. Braves, O's and TB won a combined 1 playoff game this year. Playoffs are a crapshoot.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 You have no idea if that's true. You don't. Don't pretend you do. Braves, O's and TB won a combined 1 playoff game this year. Playoffs are a crapshoot. Luckily people aren't only taking 1 year when forming their opinion. It's been 8 years of Shatkins with 0 playoff wins while having more resources than the teams you just listed. Oh and ATL has a ring...
Marew Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 So it’s settled then right. A tweet said it.
Rusty_Savage Verified Member Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Luckily people aren't only taking 1 year when forming their opinion. It's been 8 years of Shatkins with 0 playoff wins while having more resources than the teams you just listed. Oh and ATL has a ring...They actually went to the ALCS in 2016! Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2023 Author Posted December 7, 2023 Heres some flimsy s*** for you to enjoy Oh hell yeah. A British tabloid saying we are the favorites is exactly what I was looking for.
JoJo Parker Dunedin Blue Jays - A SS On Tuesday, Parker was just 1-for-5, but the one hit was his first professional home run. Explore JoJo Parker News >
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now