Around Baseball 2023

[L54]

But why?

[Brownie19]

But why?

 

Why not? I'm not sure we should be questioning MLB's competition committee at this point. All recent changes have been spot on and great for baseball.

[G-Snarls]

2 seconds? Wtf why bother. Current times feel fine.

[L54]

Why not? I'm not sure we should be questioning MLB's competition committee at this point. All recent changes have been spot on and great for baseball.

 

What are they gaining with two seconds? Sweet f*** all

[L54]

2 seconds? Wtf why bother. Current times feel fine.

 

My thoughts too

[Laika]

I dunno. It's not a big deal.

 

Why should the initial times be assumed ideal and set in stone?

 

Why not tinker and find the best balance? Maybe 20 seconds was just too long to the point that it did not have the desired effect.

[L54]

Well might as well sell Manoah for Dylan Moore at this point because this was the worst possible news for him

[hanton]

2 seconds? Wtf why bother. Current times feel fine.

 

Yea agree but game times increased apparently

 

Major League Baseball's competition committee is weighing a proposal that would reduce the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 next season, aiming to reverse a late-season trend that saw the average time of game increase by seven minutes, sources told ESPN.

[glory]

Well might as well sell Manoah for Dylan Moore at this point because this was the worst possible news for him

 

My half joking reaction to that news was to trade Manoah before he throws a pitch with a 15/18 second clock.

[L54]

My half joking reaction to that news was to trade Manoah before he throws a pitch with a 15/18 second clock.

 

Lol I think it’s true

[Brownie19]

Yea agree but game times increased apparently

 

Major League Baseball's competition committee is weighing a proposal that would reduce the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 next season, aiming to reverse a late-season trend that saw the average time of game increase by seven minutes, sources told ESPN.

 

Sounds about right. We definitely saw pitchers manipulating the clock more and more as the season went on. Easy to say "2 seconds, why bother"?, but you can also say "2 seconds, why not"?

[jaysblue]

10 second pitch clocks! Would be hilarious!

[hanton]

Sounds about right. We definitely saw pitchers manipulating the clock more and more as the season went on. Easy to say "2 seconds, why bother"?, but you can also say "2 seconds, why not"?

 

I forget which pitcher was doing it in the ws but he took the clock down to 1 second before starting his delivering - used it to his advantage even though the batter has to be set by the 8 second mark. I say just leave it for another season

[connorp]

Yankees pull in the bucks. $280m in ticket rev, down a chunk from last year but still tops. That’s not even a teams main revenue source. Good thing George isn’t around as it’d be like $400m payroll every year

[Marew]

2 seconds over the game, maybe save 3-5 minutes. But, only 162 games and more if some people here watch multiple games, that could be 500-1000 minutes per year.

 

Assuming average salary here of about 200k because it’s a nerd forum, everyone is making about $100/hr.

 

The mlb just gave everyone here at least $1000 of productive time back per year.

 

S and P 500 gained about 30% in 2021 just picking a random year.

 

So we can go ahead and plug that into the compound interest calculator - for the next 50 years.

 

$11,961,118,364.98 !

[Dick_Pole]

To make it really fun, they should make every pitch clock reset at a random time interval between 10 and 30 seconds. Allow degenerate gamblers to bet on the number every time.

[Ehjays]

[John_Havok]

2 seconds? Wtf why bother. Current times feel fine.

 

They're also considering mound visits being reduced to 4 from 5

[Terminator]

 

The stove is hot!

[L54]

They should go to 3 balls and 2 strikes if they really wanna fly through these games

 

Full count! Two and one

[Brownie19]

They should go to 3 balls and 2 strikes if they really wanna fly through these games

 

Full count! Two and one

 

I don't get the snarkiness. Are you the only person who didn't enjoy the improved pace of game and reduced length? I understand the thought "what difference can 2 seconds make?", but obviously MLB believes it will be an improvement. MLB has been pretty f***ing spot on with rule changes over the past 5 years have they not? It seems that even those who were dead set against the pitch clock at the start of the season seem to have come around to support it. Maybe you just hate change?

[TheHurl]

What are they gaining with two seconds? Sweet f*** all

 

6 commercials

[L54]

6 commercials

 

This is the only answer that makes sense

[L54]

I don't get the snarkiness. Are you the only person who didn't enjoy the improved pace of game and reduced length? I understand the thought "what difference can 2 seconds make?", but obviously MLB believes it will be an improvement. MLB has been pretty f***ing spot on with rule changes over the past 5 years have they not? It seems that even those who were dead set against the pitch clock at the start of the season seem to have come around to support it. Maybe you just hate change?

 

It’s a joke not a dick I don’t actually care that much

[Carlos Danger]

A Letter from John Fisher -

 

 

Oakland Athletics

November 16, 2023

 

Dear Fans of the Oakland A's,

 

I know that today is a very difficult day with the vote by MLB owners allowing for the A's relocation from Oakland to Las Vegas. I share a lot of those emotions – sadness that our team will be leaving its home since 1968, pride in what we have accomplished together on and off the field in Oakland, but also hope and optimism about the future of the A's in Las Vegas.

 

Since 2005, when Lew Wolff and I bought the team, we focused our efforts on developing a new privately financed stadium to position the A's for long-term, sustained success. From the beginning, I wanted to stay in the Bay Area which has been home to my family for generations and to the Athletics for over fifty years.

 

Even before we bought the team, it was clear that the A's needed a new stadium, with the Coliseum being one of the oldest ballparks in the game and with huge repair and maintenance issues. We spent nearly all our time and effort exploring multiple locations in Oakland, Fremont, San Jose and then Laney College, the Coliseum and Howard Terminal in Oakland. For the past 2 ½ years, we also explored Las Vegas in parallel with those efforts.

 

I fell in love with the history and community around the A's from the beginning of my affiliation with the team. I felt that I was in a unique position to succeed in building a new home for our team, which was critical to having a sustainable, winning team on the field for A's fans. However, after the last 6 years of working on keeping the A's in Oakland, the hurdles proved too great. We were unable to get a binding agreement from the City, with rising costs of infrastructure making it harder and harder for the city to pay for its part of the project, and organized opposition from maritime interests raising significant doubts we could ever get a stadium built.

 

In May 2021, MLB gave us permission to explore Las Vegas as an alternative market out of concern for the rate of progress being made by the A's in Oakland. The need for a new stadium was reinforced in the 2022 Collective Bargaining Agreement between MLB and the Baseball Player's Association, which stated that the A's must have a binding agreement for a new stadium by January 2024 or lose revenue sharing. Despite our best efforts, including 6 years of work and $100 million spent on securing a stadium in Oakland, we came to the difficult conclusion that we would not be able to have a binding agreement with Oakland by the January 2024 deadline. The threat of a referendum delaying the process further confirmed that decision.

 

I want to thank the Mayor's office, the Port, the City Council, the State, and most importantly A's fans and our own employees, who were all dedicated to trying to make this work in Oakland. I believe the collective motivations of everyone involved were honorable and I appreciate all the work that was done in support of this effort. I also understand their disappointment and frustration, and the desire in the media to place all the blame on me and the A's organization for the inability to make this work. All I can say is that we worked as hard as possible for 6 years to find a solution in Oakland.

 

To our fans, I am truly sorry. While I know that today is a sad day, I hope that it is also the start of a new and bright future for the A's.

 

Sincerely,

John Fisher

Athletics Managing Partner and Owner

[John_Havok]

A Letter from John Fisher -

 

 

Oakland Athletics

November 16, 2023

 

Dear Fans of the Oakland A's,

 

I know that today is a very difficult day with the vote by MLB owners allowing for the A's relocation from Oakland to Las Vegas. I share a lot of those emotions – sadness that our team will be leaving its home since 1968, pride in what we have accomplished together on and off the field in Oakland, but also hope and optimism about the future of the A's in Las Vegas.

 

Since 2005, when Lew Wolff and I bought the team, we focused our efforts on developing a new privately financed stadium to position the A's for long-term, sustained success. From the beginning, I wanted to stay in the Bay Area which has been home to my family for generations and to the Athletics for over fifty years.

 

Even before we bought the team, it was clear that the A's needed a new stadium, with the Coliseum being one of the oldest ballparks in the game and with huge repair and maintenance issues. We spent nearly all our time and effort exploring multiple locations in Oakland, Fremont, San Jose and then Laney College, the Coliseum and Howard Terminal in Oakland. For the past 2 ½ years, we also explored Las Vegas in parallel with those efforts.

 

I fell in love with the history and community around the A's from the beginning of my affiliation with the team. I felt that I was in a unique position to succeed in building a new home for our team, which was critical to having a sustainable, winning team on the field for A's fans. However, after the last 6 years of working on keeping the A's in Oakland, the hurdles proved too great. We were unable to get a binding agreement from the City, with rising costs of infrastructure making it harder and harder for the city to pay for its part of the project, and organized opposition from maritime interests raising significant doubts we could ever get a stadium built.

 

In May 2021, MLB gave us permission to explore Las Vegas as an alternative market out of concern for the rate of progress being made by the A's in Oakland. The need for a new stadium was reinforced in the 2022 Collective Bargaining Agreement between MLB and the Baseball Player's Association, which stated that the A's must have a binding agreement for a new stadium by January 2024 or lose revenue sharing. Despite our best efforts, including 6 years of work and $100 million spent on securing a stadium in Oakland, we came to the difficult conclusion that we would not be able to have a binding agreement with Oakland by the January 2024 deadline. The threat of a referendum delaying the process further confirmed that decision.

 

I want to thank the Mayor's office, the Port, the City Council, the State, and most importantly A's fans and our own employees, who were all dedicated to trying to make this work in Oakland. I believe the collective motivations of everyone involved were honorable and I appreciate all the work that was done in support of this effort. I also understand their disappointment and frustration, and the desire in the media to place all the blame on me and the A's organization for the inability to make this work. All I can say is that we worked as hard as possible for 6 years to find a solution in Oakland.

 

To our fans, I am truly sorry. While I know that today is a sad day, I hope that it is also the start of a new and bright future for the A's.

 

Sincerely,

John Fisher

Athletics Managing Partner and Owner

 

The TL : DR version.....

 

I keep making 10s of millions of dollars in revenue sharing and I can't take the chance of that cash cow drying up...so f*** y'all, we out.

[BTS]

Cole and Snell win the CY

[Ehjays]

[Spanky99]

You're only saying he'll win because he just became the favourite over the last week or two. He's not a lock by any means.

 

[Spanky99]

I admittedly don’t know the details, but since it’s the Bay Area, I could see them fighting about giving any concessions to a sports team, when all that money can be going to free gender affirmation surgery and such

 

lol... you're f***ed.