Around Baseball 2023

[Spanky__99]

Jo Adell hit a baseball 514' tonight.

[Spanky__99]

Jesse Winker hit his 1st HR tonight, now sporting a .050 ISO, what an awful contract and what happened to him?

[Terminator]

Jo Adell hit a baseball 514' tonight.

 

That thing was obliterated!

[connorp]

Jo Adell hit a baseball 514' tonight.

 

Renroe shouldn’t be blocking him. Flip him for a lottery ticket

[Brownie19]

Jo Adell hit a baseball 514' tonight.

 

Dirty move posting this without a video Spank!

[John_Havok]

Rangers were jobbed on a play at the plate, cray cray this ruling.

 

Yeah I just watched the replay and I’m kinda baffled on that one. Catcher was off to the side and the runner had a clear lane to the plate.

[connorp]

I was thinking Seager would slow down, but he keeps going. May be magic season

[Krylian]

Yeah I just watched the replay and I’m kinda baffled on that one. Catcher was off to the side and the runner had a clear lane to the plate.

 

Is the catcher allowed to have his foot on the plate before having possession of the ball?

[John_Havok]

Is the catcher allowed to have his foot on the plate before having possession of the ball?

 

Nothing in the rules about touching the plate before having possession of the ball, just can't block the path before having possession

 

(i) Collisions at Home Plate

 

(1) A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate), or otherwise initiate an avoidable collision. If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (regardless of whether the player covering home plate maintains possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the collision. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 6.01(i).

 

Rule 6.01(i)(1) Comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in violation of Rule 6.01(i), or otherwise initiated a collision that could have been avoided. A slide shall be deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. If a catcher blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall not find that the runner initiated an avoidable collision in violation of this Rule 6.01(i)(1).

 

(2) Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Not withstanding the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 6.01(i)(2) if the catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in a legitimate attempt to field the throw (e.g., in reaction to the direction, trajectory or the hop of the incoming throw, or in reaction to a throw that originates from a pitcher or drawn-in infielder). In addition, a catcher without possession of the ball shall not be adjudged to violate this Rule 6.01(i)(2) if the runner could have avoided the collision with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) by sliding.

 

Rule 6.01(i)(2) Comment: A catcher shall not be deemed to have violated Rule 6.01(i)(2) unless he has both blocked the plate without possession the ball (or when not in a legitimate attempt to field the throw), and also hindered or impeded the progress of the runner attempting to score. A catcher shall not be deemed to have hindered or impeded the progress of the runner if, in the judgment of the umpire, the runner would have been called out notwithstanding the catcher having blocked the plate. In addition, a catcher should use best efforts to avoid unnecessary and forcible contact while tagging a runner attempting to slide. Catchers who routinely make unnecessary and forcible contact with a runner attempting to slide (e.g., by initiating contact using a knee, shin guard, elbow or forearm) may be subject to discipline by the League President.

 

All references to “the catcher” in this Rule 6.01(i) shall apply equally to other players covering home plate. In addition, Rule 6.01(i)(2) shall not apply to force plays at home plate.

[Spanky__99]

Dirty move posting this without a video Spank!

 

My bad... this is an absolute monster shot, lol.

 

https://www.milb.com/video/jo-adell-s-towering-home-run-x7706

[Brownie19]

My bad... this is an absolute monster shot, lol.

 

https://www.milb.com/video/jo-adell-s-towering-home-run-x7706

 

Wowsers. In the statcast era, the longest ML home run is 508 feet. Apparently, in 1987, Joey Meyer of the Denver Zephyrs (Triple-A) hit a 582-foot home run for the longest home run in recorded history.

[Spanky__99]

Yeah I just watched the replay and I’m kinda baffled on that one. Catcher was off to the side and the runner had a clear lane to the plate.

 

See Bochy after the game, lmao... zero f***s given. He's getting nailed with a fine.

 

Brutal call...

 

[Spanky__99]

Wowsers. In the statcast era, the longest ML home run is 508 feet. Apparently, in 1987, Joey Meyer of the Denver Zephyrs (Triple-A) hit a 582-foot home run for the longest home run in recorded history.

 

WAT??? Holy s***.

[AMS528]

Stroman has picked a great year to have a Cy Young finalist season. If he finishes strong, I wonder what kind of contract he can get for next year? He's reasonably safe to sign since his floor has been pretty stable. He won't be as good as this season, but he's generally always pretty good.

 

4/100? 5/120?

[Brownie19]

Stroman has picked a great year to have a Cy Young finalist season. If he finishes strong, I wonder what kind of contract he can get for next year? He's reasonably safe to sign since his floor has been pretty stable. He won't be as good as this season, but he's generally always pretty good.

 

4/100? 5/120?

 

That's a good question. Crazy to think this is Stroman's age 32 season already. Seems doubtful he continues this success as his peripherals haven't changed much. He's just getting lucky with BABIP, LOB% and HR%. Still a very good pitcher - probably a 3-4 WAR guy. I could certainly see him getting 5/120 this offseason as his last big payday.

[wilko]

Stroman has picked a great year to have a Cy Young finalist season. If he finishes strong, I wonder what kind of contract he can get for next year? He's reasonably safe to sign since his floor has been pretty stable. He won't be as good as this season, but he's generally always pretty good.

 

4/100? 5/120?

 

The pitch clock is doing wonders for him.

[L54]

Stroman is so steady. Really underrated type of player

[AMS528]

Stroman is so steady. Really underrated type of player

 

It's incredibly valuable to have a guy you can reliably pencil in for 6-7 innings allowing 2-3 runs an outing. It's why Buehrle was so valuable (not that Stroman is at that level).

 

If he stays reasonably steady for the next 4 years, he could finish his career with like 35 WAR. Maybe even 40. That's great.

[L54]

It's incredibly valuable to have a guy you can reliably pencil in for 6-7 innings allowing 2-3 runs an outing. It's why Buehrle was so valuable (not that Stroman is at that level).

 

If he stays reasonably steady for the next 4 years, he could finish his career with like 35 WAR. Maybe even 40. That's great.

 

Agreed. Guys like that can help stabilize a rotation in the same way Gausman does. Go deep, rest the pen and give your team a chance to win.

[glory]

Stroman is so steady. Really underrated type of player

 

He has had a really good career so far. Very consistent and embraces the big game. I still wish the Jays kept him long term.

[L54]

That's a good question. Crazy to think this is Stroman's age 32 season already. Seems doubtful he continues this success as his peripherals haven't changed much. He's just getting lucky with BABIP, LOB% and HR%. Still a very good pitcher - probably a 3-4 WAR guy. I could certainly see him getting 5/120 this offseason as his last big payday.

 

I don’t think he’s getting lucky, I think it’s exactly who he is. Tons of ground balls and weak contact. Will lead to a few stinkers over the course of the season but the end of year numbers always look great.

 

He has an ERA under 3.50 over his last ~100 starts. Steady Eddy

[L54]

He has had a really good career so far. Very consistent and embraces the big game. I still wish the Jays kept him long term.

 

I can’t stand the person but the player is excellent. He would look good in the rotation no doubt.

[Spanky__99]

Reds just won their 11th in a row... Giants have won 9 in a row. Dang!

[Brownie19]

I don’t think he’s getting lucky, I think it’s exactly who he is. Tons of ground balls and weak contact. Will lead to a few stinkers over the course of the season but the end of year numbers always look great.

 

He has an ERA under 3.50 over his last ~100 starts. Steady Eddy

 

His current ERA is 2.28 though. I don't expect it to stay there and it probably needs to if he's going to be a Cy Young contender.

[connorp]

Julio Teheran is only 32. I would’ve guessed at least 5 years older…

 

Also, who needs the juice… Tatis hitting .400 with 1.300 OPS + 7 steals this month. Dude is fun to watch

Edited June 21, 2023 by connorp

[Terminator]

FYI

 

Cody Bellinger is 4 for his last 37 with just 1 extra base hit.

 

He has a career low exit velocity this year and hasn't hit a homer since April.

[Spanky__99]

FYI

 

Cody Bellinger is 4 for his last 37 with just 1 extra base hit.

 

He has a career low exit velocity this year and hasn't hit a homer since April.

 

lol...

 

[John_Havok]

I know it's a tad early, but looking ahead to the trade deadline... is this year shaping up to be an exciting deadline or ... dull ?

 

Look at the garbage divisions like either leagues Central... teams that are under .500 could feasibly still be in contention for the division titles and a playoff spot, so ... will there be far fewer teams that are pure sellers?

 

Right now, obviously Oakland, White Sox, Tigers, Nats, Rockies and Cardinals are probably the only pure sellers, though the PIrates are rapidly falling into that category recently. Every other team in baseball you could probably make the case to be buyers or tweakers.

[Spanky__99]

I know it's a tad early, but looking ahead to the trade deadline... is this year shaping up to be an exciting deadline or ... dull ?

 

Look at the garbage divisions like either leagues Central... teams that are under .500 could feasibly still be in contention for the division titles and a playoff spot, so ... will there be far fewer teams that are pure sellers?

 

Right now, obviously Oakland, White Sox, Tigers, Nats, Rockies and Cardinals are probably the only pure sellers, though the PIrates are rapidly falling into that category recently. Every other team in baseball you could probably make the case to be buyers or tweakers.

 

Pirates sell vets only, if they do. Hard to say until a month from like now, literally. It will be active AF.

[Terminator]

The Rockies almost never sell.

 

But yeah overall with the s***** Central divisions keeping a lot of teams in it to go along with the 3 WCs there are a lot of potential buyers and not many sellers.

 

Going to make the prices sky high again like last year.