Armchair GM Time- What moves would you make to spark the offense?

[Terminator]

Roster Resource currently has the team construction looking like this:

 

Lineup

1. R- Springer CF

2. R- Espinal 2B

3. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

4. R- Bichette SS

5. R- Teoscar DH

6. R- Chapman 3B

7. R- Gurriel Jr. LF

8. R- Jansen C

9. L- Tapia RF (currently listed in a platoon)

 

Bench

R- Kirk C (listed in platoon)

R- Capra INF/OF

L- Zimmer OF

 

What would you change up other than firing Montoyo? Switch the lineup around? Make a callup? Let's hear it!

[Eat My Shatkins]

Josh Bell and Andrew Benintendi

 

A couple LHB that can actually hit.

 

Bell 1B/DH

Benny anywhere in the OF

 

Fire Tapia and Zimmer into the sun.

 

Gurriel hitting like s*** doesn't surprise me, he always starts that way. But what Teo is doing right now is unbelievable.

[Terminator]

Josh Bell and Andrew Benintendi

 

A couple LHB that can actually hit.

 

Bell 1B/DH

Benny anywhere in the OF

 

Fire Tapia and Zimmer into the sun.

 

Gurriel hitting like s*** doesn't surprise me, he always starts that way. But what Teo is doing right now is unbelievable.

 

Ok well significant trades is one route but I don't see that happening for close to another 2 months.

[Omar]

Trades shouldn't count for this thread. It will just turn stupid.

[Jimcanuck]

Change Lineup

1. R- Springer CF

2. R- Espinal 2B

3. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

4. R- Bichette SS

5. R- Jansen C

6. R- Teoscar RF

7. R- Chapman 3B

8. R- Gurriel Jr. LF

9. R- Moreno - DH

 

Bench

L- Biggio INF/OF

R- Capra INF/OF

L- Zimmer OF

 

Move Jansen into middle of lineup

Moreno and Biggio callups

DFA Tapia, trade Kirk for high leverage bullpen arm + prospect

[wilko]

Lineup

1. L- Tapia LF

2. L- Zimmer CF

3. R- Chapman 3B

4. R- Teoscar RF

5. R- Jansen C

6. R- Bichette SS

7. R- Espinal 2B

8. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

9. R- Springer DH

 

 

Bench

R- Kirk C (listed in platoon)

R- Gurriel Jr. LF

L- Biggio (Super utility)

[M.E.]

Change Lineup

1. R- Springer CF

2. R- Espinal 2B

3. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

4. R- Bichette SS

5. R- Jansen C

6. R- Teoscar RF

7. R- Chapman 3B

8. R- Gurriel Jr. LF

9. R- Moreno - DH

 

Bench

L- Biggio INF/OF

R- Capra INF/OF

L- Zimmer OF

 

Move Jansen into middle of lineup

Moreno and Biggio callups

DFA Tapia, trade Kirk for high leverage bullpen arm + prospect

 

I wouldn't be opposed to this. 5-8 are interchangeable based on who is hot.

[Daniel Labude]

Change Lineup

1. R- Espinal 2B

2. R- Springer CF

3. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

4. R- Bichette SS

5. R- Moreno DH

6. R- Teoscar RF

7. R- Chapman 3B

8. R- Gurriel Jr. LF

9. R- Jansen C

[Laika]

Lineup should be

 

Bo

Springer

Jansen

Vlad

Espinal

Kirk

Teoscar

Chapman

Gurriel

 

Just to shake it up

 

Kill the hitting coach

 

Slap Charlie Montoyo

 

I dunno

 

Pray?

 

what do you really do

[Omar]

1. Nate Pearson started his low A rehab today do should be 7 to 10 days away. When he is ready outright release Borucki.

 

2.Between Tapia and Zimmer I prefer Zimmer for his D. Bring up Nathan Lukes from AAA and give the man some playing time.

 

3. Jano and Kirk should be alternating Dh/catching assignments. Want Charlie to have minimal freedom with the lineup in this regard. Don't want either sitting right now.

 

4. Top of the batting order should be:

Espinal

Bo

Springer

Vladdy

Teo

Everyone else

I know George likes to leadoff but right now I would rather him or Bo batting in potential rbi situations. If Teo and Vladdy heat up adjust accordingly.

 

5. Pray

[Terminator]

Change Lineup

1. R- Springer CF

2. R- Espinal 2B

3. R- Vlad Jr. 1B

4. R- Bichette SS

5. R- Jansen C

6. R- Teoscar RF

7. R- Chapman 3B

8. R- Gurriel Jr. LF

9. R- Moreno - DH

 

Bench

L- Biggio INF/OF

R- Capra INF/OF

L- Zimmer OF

 

Move Jansen into middle of lineup

Moreno and Biggio callups

DFA Tapia, trade Kirk for high leverage bullpen arm + prospect

 

I think these are good ideas and about as bold as we could go, though I don't think trading Kirk is in the cards just yet as a big trade like that seems unlikely. I also would keep Tapia over Zimmer.

[Terminator]

Are there enough ABs for all 3 of Jansen, Kirk and Moreno between C and DH?

[Jimcanuck]

Are there enough ABs for all 3 of Jansen, Kirk and Moreno between C and DH?

 

If 2 are playing every game, then yes. They effectively play 2 of every 3 games, which is 108 games. They can do pitcher / hitter analytics on the days they aren't playing.

[Laika]

Are there enough ABs for all 3 of Jansen, Kirk and Moreno between C and DH?

 

Moreno LF

 

Get us a little bit of a Kyle Schwarber, who f***ing cares if he can handle it, situation. Why not?

[Terminator]

I agree fellas. 2/3 of the time is good enough as it is but get him in LF as well. Schwarber did it but Varsho does it even better and Moreno is really athletic so I'm sure he could be acceptable out there.

 

So let's call up Moreno and option our worst reliever. Play him at C/DH/LF and sit Gurriel a bit more often. I'd also consider Lukes or Biggio for Zimmer as well.

 

In addition I'd probably just tweak the lineup constantly. Maybe Go Springer at 1, Vlad at 2 and Bichette at 4 but the other spots would all be interchangeable.

[Terminator]

I'd also fire the hitting coach. Probably not his fault but it's a tough business and I like the idea of a wake up call.

 

I'd also institute a no bongos rule for all coaches/managers and no home run jacket or sunflower seed/water bucket pranks until the team is in first place in the division.

[wilko]

I'd also fire the hitting coach. Probably not his fault but it's a tough business and I like the idea of a wake up call.

 

I'd also institute a no bongos rule for all coaches/managers and no home run jacket or sunflower seed/water bucket pranks until the team is in first place in the division.

 

If the Jays are in a game down 15-0 and someone on the Jays hits a solo bomb in the bottom of the 8th. Do you think they would wear the jacket and get sprayed by handfuls of sunflower seeds?

[Olerud363]

Moreno LF

 

Get us a little bit of a Kyle Schwarber, who f***ing cares if he can handle it, situation. Why not?

 

Call Arizona who have 2 top 20 left handed hitting outfield prospects and figure out how to change one of Kirk/Moreno into a top 20 left handed hitting outfield prospect.

 

Call that guy up, his name will be Carroll or maybe Thomas.

 

Even in the latest BA rankings Moreno is above Carroll. SO why not try to change him to Carroll.

 

Call up Morris. Sit Gurriel and Hernandez sometimes. Line-up against tough righties is

 

Springer

Caroll/Thomas

Vlad

Espinal

Bichette

Gurriel/Hernandez

Chapman

Morris

Fatty McFatty or Janson

 

St. Louise had a couple of young left handed hitters of about Morris's experience doing fine...

[Olerud363]

If the Jays are in a game down 15-0 and someone on the Jays hits a solo bomb in the bottom of the 8th. Do you think they would wear the jacket and get sprayed by handfuls of sunflower seeds?

 

 

Institute blanket policy that you get to wear the jacket if you do anything good at all. Get 3 more jackets so there is enough for every baserunner and an extra for the current hitter if he does something good. Everytime you get on base you get the jacket.

[Jimcanuck]

Call Arizona who have 2 top 20 left handed hitting outfield prospects and figure out how to change one of Kirk/Moreno into a top 20 left handed hitting outfield prospect.

 

Call that guy up, his name will be Carroll or maybe Thomas.

 

Even in the latest BA rankings Moreno is above Carroll. SO why not try to change him to Carroll.

 

Call up Morris. Sit Gurriel and Hernandez sometimes. Line-up against tough righties is

 

Springer

Caroll/Thomas

Vlad

Espinal

Bichette

Gurriel/Hernandez

Chapman

Morris

Fatty McFatty or Janson

 

St. Louise had a couple of young left handed hitters of about Morris's experience doing fine...

 

No way, no how, no sirree does Arizona trade Carroll for Moreno. They probably would move Thomas for Moreno, but the Jays shouldn't.

[Stangstag]

Espinal - 2B

Springer - CF

Guerrero - 1B

Bichette - SS

Kirk - DH

Chapman - 3B

Hernandez - RF

Jansen - C

Gurriel - LF

 

Burn the Barrio Jacket

[Olerud363]

No way, no how, no sirree does Arizona trade Carroll for Moreno. They probably would move Thomas for Moreno, but the Jays shouldn't.

 

Moreno is still ranked above Carroll on most of the prospect lists. You think the lists are wrong? Or just that it's too risky a trade ?

 

I think on the latest MLB prospect report Moreno was 4th, Carroll 13th and Thomas 17th. Moreno and Carroll/Thomas could be the center pieces, with one team or the other adding to even out the perceived differences in value.

 

Just seems when you have 3 right handed hitting catchers and no left handed hitting outfielders that can hit, you need to reconfigure the talent a bit.

 

Prospect for prospect trades seem super rare, so maybe teams never want to take the risk.

[Stangstag]

Moreno is still ranked above Carroll on most of the prospect lists. You think the lists are wrong? Or just that it's too risky a trade ?

 

I think on the latest MLB prospect report Moreno was 4th, Carroll 13th and Thomas 17th. Moreno and Carroll/Thomas could be the center pieces, with one team or the other adding to even out the perceived differences in value.

 

Just seems when you have 3 right handed hitting catchers and no left handed hitting outfielders that can hit, you need to reconfigure the talent a bit.

 

Prospect for prospect trades seem super rare, so maybe teams never want to take the risk.

 

Honestly I agree that’s a great idea. Teams tend to fall in love with their own prospects but Moreno really doesn’t fit the current roster. If you can get a lefty outfielder of the same caliber/value you do it.

[Laika]

Moreno is still ranked above Carroll on most of the prospect lists. You think the lists are wrong? Or just that it's too risky a trade ?

 

I think on the latest MLB prospect report Moreno was 4th, Carroll 13th and Thomas 17th. Moreno and Carroll/Thomas could be the center pieces, with one team or the other adding to even out the perceived differences in value.

 

Just seems when you have 3 right handed hitting catchers and no left handed hitting outfielders that can hit, you need to reconfigure the talent a bit.

 

Prospect for prospect trades seem super rare, so maybe teams never want to take the risk.

 

Well Arizona has Varsho and Carson Kelly, not sure they would want another C.

And most teams prefer their own prospects, obviously. So I would guess Arizona has Carroll over Moreno, comfortably.

[Ehjays]

I agree fellas. 2/3 of the time is good enough as it is but get him in LF as well. Schwarber did it but Varsho does it even better and Moreno is really athletic so I'm sure he could be acceptable out there.

 

So let's call up Moreno and option our worst reliever. Play him at C/DH/LF and sit Gurriel a bit more often. I'd also consider Lukes or Biggio for Zimmer as well.

 

In addition I'd probably just tweak the lineup constantly. Maybe Go Springer at 1, Vlad at 2 and Bichette at 4 but the other spots would all be interchangeable.

 

Lukes would be the second best outfielder right now

[Olerud363]

Honestly I agree thatÂ’s a great idea. Teams tend to fall in love with their own prospects but Moreno really doesnÂ’t fit the current roster. If you can get a lefty outfielder of the same caliber/value you do it.

 

If a top 15 prospect trade, Moreno for the next Ted Williams doesn't work, because teams view their lefty who hasn't appeared in triple a yet as Ted Williams then what about Fatty McFatty for a left handed outfielder at the same stage?

 

Kirk for Kelenic?

 

I probably wouldn't do that, because I think Kirk looks like he can hit, has a good eye, good contact and hasn't had a real hot streak yet... so super under-rated. Kelenic, from what I hear is a total mess.

 

But what is else is there that's about the same value as Kirk but a left handed hitting outfielder?

[Jimcanuck]

Moreno is still ranked above Carroll on most of the prospect lists. You think the lists are wrong? Or just that it's too risky a trade ?

 

I think on the latest MLB prospect report Moreno was 4th, Carroll 13th and Thomas 17th. Moreno and Carroll/Thomas could be the center pieces, with one team or the other adding to even out the perceived differences in value.

 

Just seems when you have 3 right handed hitting catchers and no left handed hitting outfielders that can hit, you need to reconfigure the talent a bit.

 

Prospect for prospect trades seem super rare, so maybe teams never want to take the risk.

 

The lists are dated. Carroll is above Moreno now, easily.

[Stangstag]

If a top 15 prospect trade, Moreno for the next Ted Williams doesn't work, because teams view their lefty who hasn't appeared in triple a yet as Ted Williams then what about Fatty McFatty for a left handed outfielder at the same stage?

 

Kirk for Kelenic?

 

I probably wouldn't do that, because I think Kirk looks like he can hit, has a good eye, good contact and hasn't had a real hot streak yet... so super under-rated. Kelenic, from what I hear is a total mess.

 

But what is else is there that's about the same value as Kirk but a left handed hitting outfielder?

 

Lol I’d definitely do Kirk for Kelenic, but I doubt the Mariners would

[Olerud363]

The lists are dated. Carroll is above Moreno now, easily.

 

MLB claims they updated theirs yesterday.

[connorp]

MLB claims they updated theirs yesterday.

 

Hopefully by that they mean a purge of graduates. Volpe isn’t #5