General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2022)

[Jonn]

If we're theoretically trading for Soto aren't we likely to include an outfielder in the deal? Teoscar and Gurriel would be viable package pieces wouldn't they?

 

Which also raises another question as to how long Soto is a viable OF option before he has to move to 1B/DH

 

If one was going to be traded its probably Gurriel but he doesn't have to go in that trade. It could be separate trade or the Natationals could just look to flip him elsewhere. Teo would likely go to LF and Soto would slot into RF for the rest of the season. Soto's not a great RF but switching his position probably not the best way to go about acquiring him. Thats something you do in the off-season if anything. Teo has played all the Outfield positions and actually goes to LF when they bring Zimmer into the game to play CF with Springer going to RF.

[Daniel Labude]

[Jimcanuck]

 

I'd move Kirky for the chance to see these guys go back to back

[Krylian]

 

He looks 38 in that picture. Are we sure he's 23?

[gruber92]

So the Nationals want mainly MLB ready players in a Soto trade. Bichette, Teo, Biggio and Groshans. Does that do it?

[Krylian]

So the Nationals want mainly MLB ready players in a Soto trade. Bichette, Teo, Biggio and Groshans. Does that do it?

 

Probably not.

 

Bichette, Kirk or Moreno, Pearson, Tiedmann is what they'd ask for I'm thinking.

[Jimcanuck]

So the Nationals want mainly MLB ready players in a Soto trade. Bichette, Teo, Biggio and Groshans. Does that do it?

 

MLB ready means top prospects in the upper minors, ready to debut.

[Laika]

Moreno is possibly a better prospect centrepiece than any other team would offer...

[gruber92]

MLB ready means top prospects in the upper minors, ready to debut.

 

Yeah I know but we don't have that outside of Moreno and possibly Groshans.

[THANOS]

Moreno is possibly a better prospect centrepiece than any other team would offer...

 

He's #3 in the Top 100 right?

[InsideThePark]

Bo, Moreno and Groshans is the maximum I could stomach and that price makes me uneasy. Not an exact science but Baseball Trade Values has that pretty close to the value of Soto.

 

I think a catcher and a 3B/SS prospect is the obvious excess that we have. Losing Bo would hurt, but I don't think we have enough pure prospect capital to make it work without completely gutting the farm

[gruber92]

Moreno is possibly a better prospect centrepiece than any other team would offer...

 

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

[Jimcanuck]

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

 

If true the deal is already done

[Stangstag]

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

 

Lol damn

[Daniel Labude]

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

 

Probably not close to reality

[G-Snarls]

He's #3 in the Top 100 right?

 

Yes

 

Plus already proven he can play in the big leagues

[Laika]

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

 

Sounds fake

[Eat My Shatkins]

Wouldn't matter anyways, the Dodgers could trade all 7 of them and next year they'd have 7 more in the top 100

[JaysAllMighty]

So the Nationals want mainly MLB ready players in a Soto trade. Bichette, Teo, Biggio and Groshans. Does that do it?

 

Throw in Vladdy while you're at it... LOL

 

f*** Soto, greedy bastard.

[BigCecil]

Throw in Vladdy while you're at it... LOL

 

f*** Soto, greedy bastard.

 

I never blame the players for betting on themselves. Its 100% a business. The owners give out the insane contracts over and over again.

 

One only has to look at 2B and SS for TEX from the 2021 off season to see the evidence of why it can pay to bet on ones self if you are a player.

[Deadpool]

I never blame the players for betting on themselves. Its 100% a business. The owners give out the insane contracts over and over again.

 

One only has to look at 2B and SS for TEX from the 2021 off season to see the evidence of why it can pay to bet on ones self if you are a player.

 

He was offered almost half a billion dollars. He's already won that bet, unless he's really worried that his great-great-great-great-great grandchildren might have to get jobs one day...

[Eat My Shatkins]

I think Soto turning these offers down is being driven by two things:

 

1. He doesn't want to stay in Washington

2. Boras' ego

[Krylian]

Wasn't it said somewhere that the Dodgers have 7 top 100 prospects and are willing to give up all 7 for Soto?

 

No way that's accurate.

[saskjayfan]

No way that's accurate.

 

MLB has them with 6 top 100 prospects. When you can spend 100 to 200 mil more than most teams, why not trade all your prospects....lol

[Deadpool]

I think Soto turning these offers down is being driven by two things:

 

1. He doesn't want to stay in Washington

2. Boras' ego

 

It's gotta be one of those things, because it's a thoroughly stupid decision. There comes a point where you just have more money than you could ever possibly need, and every day that he hasn't accepted that offer is a day that he might suffer a career ending injury and wind up with nothing.

[John_Havok]

It's gotta be one of those things, because it's a thoroughly stupid decision. There comes a point where you just have more money than you could ever possibly need, and every day that he hasn't accepted that offer is a day that he might suffer a career ending injury and wind up with nothing.

 

Not even a career ending injury, but one that stops him from being elite and maybe just…average. I think that would be worse

[Krylian]

MLB has them with 6 top 100 prospects. When you can spend 100 to 200 mil more than most teams, why not trade all your prospects....lol

 

Mainly because it won't take 6-7 Top 100 prospects to land Soto. Trading 4, then tipping them another 2-3 out of the goodness of their hearts isn't smart business.

[The Cats Ass]

I think Soto turning these offers down is being driven by two things:

 

1. He doesn't want to stay in Washington

2. Boras' ego

 

It's most likely #1. Washington is looking at a lengthy rebuild. Their farm is below average, and their core is old. Throw in the fact the owners are looking to sell the team. It's not an ideal situation.

[BTS]

I'm pretty sure Soto's just miserable on a last place team, and sees an opportunity to be playing playoff baseball for the Dodgers or Yankees like 3 months from now.

[The Cats Ass]

I'm pretty sure Soto's just miserable on a last place team, and sees an opportunity to be playing playoff baseball for the Dodgers or Yankees like 3 months from now.

 

I wonder if he'd take something close to the 15/$440M offer from one of them.