jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I’ve always sought Odorizzi as a depth SP in fantasy so I could have a little bias but lifetime ERA of 4 and FIP only slightly higher. He’s better than a number 5 I think when he’s healthy, but seems like the latter is a tall order The other guys were prospects but I didn’t realize how bad Cole Winn was. Thought he was still solid. Leiter I thought would in the mix if he pitches better. Owen White is the other guy Yeah Odorizzi IMO is more of a No. 5 right now. Still a decent arm for innings and depth. Dunning could be considered a No. 4 in the rotation. He's still young with some upside so I'll give it to him. So they probably have four or five No. 3-4 starters in their rotation. Any injuries though especially to deGrom or Heaney or another arm over a long period will definitely hurt.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 If dunning or Odorizzi are a 3/4 on your team you’re going to have a real bad time Dunning probably isn't even in the rotation if everyone is healthy at the end of ST. Out of their home grown arms, at least he has some potential to be decent.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 https://www.mlb.com/news/2023-mlb-award-winner-predictions Meh, too much love for Boston.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 The Rangers have gotten way better, they have to be in WC contention right now. I don't get those that say they stink, they don't. How they got here is dumn, but c'mon.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Dunning probably isn't even in the rotation if everyone is healthy at the end of ST. Out of their home grown arms, at least he has some potential to be decent. Just looked him up and his profile isn't what I expected. I thought I remembered him as a fastball-slider guy with mid-90s heat, but he sat 89 last year.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 The Rangers have gotten way better, they have to be in WC contention right now. I don't get those that say they stink, they don't. How they got here is dumn, but c'mon. Yeah they will be in WC contention if they stay healthy. Like you said, I think it's more with the way they got there like spending hundreds of millions on contracts over the past two years which is at the back of everyone minds.
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Just looked him up and his profile isn't what I expected. I thought I remembered him as a fastball-slider guy with mid-90s heat, but he sat 89 last year. I hope Texas wins the division now just bc you’re such a wet blanket
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Rangers' rotation does not inspire a lot of confidence but they do have enough arms, I think. But my brain says take the under on most of their arms, especially Martin Perez. That division is closer than people realize. It's close to a 4 team race. Projected WAR: Astros 48.3 M's 43.6 Rangers 42.2 Angels 40.6 ~6 win gap is nothing, in projected WAR. That's one Kyle Tucker injury from being a 1 win gap.
MON4NHLTOR4MLB Verified Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 AA would’ve had Bo, Vladdy and Manoah locked up to team friendly deals by now but we’ll lose 2/3 to free agency instead. That’s the sweet spot of risk folks
Laika Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 AA would’ve had Bo, Vladdy and Manoah locked up to team friendly deals by now but we’ll lose 2/3 to free agency instead. That’s the sweet spot of risk folks Maybe that’s fine.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 ESPN ranked all 30 MLB teams: https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/35292245/ranking-all-30-mlb-teams-biggest-free-agents-signed
The Cats Ass Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 AA would’ve had Bo, Vladdy and Manoah locked up to team friendly deals by now but we’ll lose 2/3 to free agency instead. That’s the sweet spot of risk folks I hope we trade in their final year the 2 we're planning to let go for prospects, so the casual fans freak right out.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 ESPN ranked all 30 MLB teams: https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/35292245/ranking-all-30-mlb-teams-biggest-free-agents-signed It's like they don't know we traded Moreno for Varsho lol.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 ESPN ranked all 30 MLB teams: https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/35292245/ranking-all-30-mlb-teams-biggest-free-agents-signed What are the top 10?
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 AA would’ve had Bo, Vladdy and Manoah locked up to team friendly deals by now but we’ll lose 2/3 to free agency instead. That’s the sweet spot of risk folks I'm not sure any GM could have locked of Vlad and Bo on any sort of discount
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 What are the top 10? 1) Mets 2) Padres 3) Yankees 4) Braves 5) Rays 6) Astros 7) Cardinals 8) Blue Jays 9) Dodgers 10) Guardians
Eat My Shatkins Verified Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 What are the top 10? 1. Mets 2. Padres 3. Yankees 4. Braves 5. Rays 6. Astros 7. Cards 8. Jays 9. Dodgers 10. Guardians
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 AA would’ve had Bo, Vladdy and Manoah locked up to team friendly deals by now but we’ll lose 2/3 to free agency instead. That’s the sweet spot of risk folks Bo and Vlad are not apples and apples compared to Acuna and others AA has offered long term security to. I have said this before and it needs to be said again. Both, Vlad and Bo are pro player kids. They grew up wealthy and have no financial worries. Much different then some kid off the island who knows that if they get hurt or suck they might never have a chance to have generational wealth in their family so they take security over risk.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Bo and Vlad are not apples and apples compared to Acuna and others AA has offered long term security to. I have said this before and it needs to be said again. Both, Vlad and Bo are pro player kids. They grew up wealthy and have no financial worries. Much different then some kid off the island who knows that if they get hurt or suck they might never have a chance to have generational wealth in their family so they take security over risk. Not just that they have money, but their dads know the business. They won't let their kids get one red cent less than they feel they're worth.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I'm shocked the Rays are ranked 5th. Ahead of both the Astros and Jays in the AL.
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I'm shocked the Rays are ranked 5th. Ahead of both the Astros and Jays in the AL. Until they lose, it's hard to argue with the 'put team together with chewing gum and duct tape' method.
Jonn Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Seems like whenever people are down on the Rays they have their best season. Writers aren’t falling for that s*** anymore.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I would have the Rays in my Top 10. Not sure I would have them in the top 5 though.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 Lewin Diaz has been DFA'ed for the 4th time this offseason.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 It's like they don't know we traded Moreno for Varsho lol. I checked the date of the article to see if it was before the trade... nope lol
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I hope we trade in their final year the 2 we're planning to let go for prospects, so the casual fans freak right out. lol
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I'm shocked the Rays are ranked 5th. Ahead of both the Astros and Jays in the AL. I don’t think this factors the Varsho trade, but also Tampa still seems too high
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted December 29, 2022 Posted December 29, 2022 I don’t think this factors the Varsho trade, but also Tampa still seems too high Yeah Wilko pointed out doesn't factor the Varsho trade. They should be higher IMO. I love the Rays pitching staff, but they don't have the bats IMO to be a Top 5 team. I would drop them to 8th or 9th. Astros should be in the Top 5 IMO. I still think they're the team to beat in the AL, though for sure a lot of AL West teams did close the gap on them.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Yankees got a couple of lottery tickets from Atlanta for Leutge, better than nothing I guess.
BTS Community Moderator Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Yeah Wilko pointed out doesn't factor the Varsho trade. They should be higher IMO. I love the Rays pitching staff, but they don't have the bats IMO to be a Top 5 team. I would drop them to 8th or 9th. Astros should be in the Top 5 IMO. I still think they're the team to beat in the AL, though for sure a lot of AL West teams did close the gap on them. It's pathetic that the Rays didn't address their offense this offseason. They desperately need an impact bat.
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