Rosterbation Discussion Thread (2021)

[TwistedLogic]

Not a chance Semien is hitting 9th. He probably slots in 5th or 6th.

 

Oh, I know. But my lineup isn't based on what Montoyo will do. It's how I'd build it.

 

Montoyo's lineup will look nothing like mine.

[Jimcanuck]

Not a chance Semien is hitting 9th. He probably slots in 5th or 6th.

 

Yes, maybe.

 

Every one of those lineup guys projects to be above average hitter, with the exception of Jansen who projects to be average (I expect more from him).

 

With this lineup, as I mentioned a few weeks ago, an innings eater like Porcello could win 15 games.

[Eat My Shatkins]

1. Springer

2. Biggio

3. Bichette

4. Hernandez

5. Semien

6. Gurriel

7. Vladdy

8. Tellez / Grichuk

9. Jansen / Kirk

 

Now go get Bauer, or one of Paxton/Odirizzi and let's this season started.

[Jays24]

Springer CF

Bo SS

Semien 2B/3B

Skinny Vlad 1B

Hernandez DH/RF

Gurriel LF

Grichuk/Tellez RF/DH

Jansen C

Biggio 3B/2B

 

Springer has been a leadoff guy for too long so I wouldn't mess with what's been working. I'm not sure who would go in the 3 hole but the fact it won't be Grichuk this year is awesome lol. Having Biggio last is more to setup the top of the order.

[BlueRocky]

1. CF Springer

2. SS Bichette

3. DH Teoscar

4. 2B Semien

5. LF Gurriel

6. 1B Vlad Jr

7. 3B Biggio

8. RF Grichuk

9. C Jansen/Kirk

[Jays24]

Not a chance Semien is hitting 9th. He probably slots in 5th or 6th.

 

Yes, maybe.

 

Every one of those lineup guys projects to be above average hitter, with the exception of Jansen who projects to be average (I expect more from him).

 

With this lineup, as I mentioned a few weeks ago, an innings eater like Porcello could win 15 games.

 

Semien is going from Oakland to the Rogers Center (maybe). Dude just bet on himself to get a longer term contract next year. He can put up 40 HRs potentially assuming we are back in Toronto. I think he bats 3rd after Springer and Bo. 5th at worst.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Ryu

Ray

Pearson

Stripling

Roark

 

Loving the position players, but I'm looking forward to Atkins fixing that abortion of a rotation here right quick.

[Krylian]

Ryu

Ray

Pearson

Stripling

Roark

 

Loving the position players, but I'm looking forward to Atkins fixing that abortion of a rotation here right quick.

 

I'd like to see 2 starters added to that. And if there's any way we can fire Roark into the sun, make it happen.

[Jays24]

Ryu

Ray

Pearson

Stripling

Roark

 

Loving the position players, but I'm looking forward to Atkins fixing that abortion of a rotation here right quick.

 

That rotation is barf worthy as currently constructed lol.

 

Crazy how much adding Bauer would change all that. I don't think it's happening but we need a player of that calibre eventually, whether it be at the trade deadline or next offseason. I think we'll add Paxton/Odorizzi/Walker for now.

[Spanky99]

Ryu

Ray

Pearson

Stripling

Roark

 

Loving the position players, but I'm looking forward to Atkins fixing that abortion of a rotation here right quick.

 

Hah... East Coaster.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Ryu

Paxton

Pearson

Ray

Stripling

 

Yates

Chatwood

Romano

Dolis

Rosenthal

Borucki

Merryweather

[gruber92]

Why does the rest of the baseball world value Gurriel's bat more than our fan base? Gurriel has improved himself into being a solid everyday bat. You can't realistically expect 2019 Simien (hopefully somewhere in between 2019 and his career numbers), so I would value Gurriel's bat higher as of now.

 

Springer CF

Bichette SS

Gurriel LF

Hernandez RF

Vladdy 1B/DH

Simien 2B

Tellez 1B/DH

Kirk/Jansen C

Biggio 3B

 

Bench.. Davis, Grichuk, Espinal, (Jansen/Kirk)

 

DFA Fisher (please and f*** the fact that Davis has an option). We actually have a lot of good baseball players on this team now, no room for low IQ types like Fisher to wrinkle things.

[Spanky99]

Not many here believe in "The Book" structure?

[gruber92]

Not many here believe in "The Book" structure?

 

This is why Gurriel makes sense batting third.

[Spanky99]

This is why Gurriel makes sense batting third.

 

I'd have him hit 3rd, him or Teo.

 

Biggio

Bichette

Gurriel

Springer

Vladdy

Semien

 

7 through 9 you can intertwine, strong bottom of the order, regardless.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Spanky99

[Spanky99]

Jesus, our offence is deadly... rosterbate indeed.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=14

[G-Snarls]

Springer CF

Bo SS

Semien 2B/3B

Skinny Vlad 1B

Hernandez DH/RF

Gurriel LF

Grichuk/Tellez RF/DH

Jansen C

Biggio 3B/2B

 

Springer has been a leadoff guy for too long so I wouldn't mess with what's been working. I'm not sure who would go in the 3 hole but the fact it won't be Grichuk this year is awesome lol. Having Biggio last is more to setup the top of the order.

 

Know what's nice? Having like 6 guys you could bat 2-3-4.

[G-Snarls]

Jesus, our offence is deadly... rosterbate indeed.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.aspx?position=ALL&teamid=14

 

Projected to be a top 5 offence in baseball

 

Gonna be fun to watch

[saskjayfan]

Ryu

Paxton

Pearson

Ray

Stripling

 

Yates

Chatwood

Romano

Dolis

Rosenthal

Borucki

Merryweather

 

I've been banging the Rosenthal drum for quite a while. I like the idea of Paxton and Rosenthal. Those would be great moves to finish the roster off.

[Grant77]

What do you guys think the Semien and Springer signings do for our bench? I think we all agree that one spot is Grichuk/Tellez and the other is a catcher.

 

As for the other two (or three) spots, we have a lot of flexibility with a competent SS in Semien and a competent CF in Grichuk playing other positions.

 

I like Espinal and Davis as options, but perhaps now we can look at veteran players with a little more bat, while preserving those two as minor league depth.

 

Looking through the free agent list, I see names like Jedd Gyorko, Daniel Murphy, Marwin Gonzalez, Todd Frazier, Matt Joyce, Josh Reddick. Maybe some could be had on minor league deals and maybe not, but I would be interested in that type of player for our bench.

[TheHurl]

What do you guys think the Semien and Springer signings do for our bench? I think we all agree that one spot is Grichuk/Tellez and the other is a catcher.

 

As for the other two (or three) spots, we have a lot of flexibility with a competent SS in Semien and a competent CF in Grichuk playing other positions.

 

I like Espinal and Davis as options, but perhaps now we can look at veteran players with a little more bat, while preserving those two as minor league depth.

 

Looking through the free agent list, I see names like Jedd Gyorko, Daniel Murphy, Marwin Gonzalez, Todd Frazier, Matt Joyce, Josh Reddick. Maybe some could be had on minor league deals and maybe not, but I would be interested in that type of player for our bench.

 

Do the Jays have anyone on the 40 that can head straight to the 60 day DL? Who is the next cut? We still have to cut one for Semien

[G-Snarls]

Do the Jays have anyone on the 40 that can head straight to the 60 day DL? Who is the next cut? We still have to cut one for Semien

 

Trade for Kyle Hendricks incoming...

 

Pleaee

[Laika]

Do the Jays have anyone on the 40 that can head straight to the 60 day DL? Who is the next cut? We still have to cut one for Semien

 

Shun Yamaguchi

Derek Fisher - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Sean Reid-Foley - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Yennsy Diaz - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Ty Tice - completely replaceable, may not even get claimed

 

I think they'll find cash buyers for a couple of these guys, maybe Yennsy and SRF.

[Deadpool]

Shun Yamaguchi

Derek Fisher - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Sean Reid-Foley - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Yennsy Diaz - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Ty Tice - completely replaceable, may not even get claimed

 

I think they'll find cash buyers for a couple of these guys, maybe Yennsy and SRF.

 

Am I missing something with Josh Palacios? Why is he never talked about as a guy that might get cut? He seems like "org filler" from the stat line, is he THAT good a CF? Does his solid OBP translate exceptionally well or something?

[THANOS]

Am I missing something with Josh Palacios? Why is he never talked about as a guy that might get cut? He seems like "org filler" from the stat line, is he THAT good a CF? Does his solid OBP translate exceptionally well or something?

 

Maybe because he hasn't failed in the majors yet and because he's often forgotten about? Could be a combination of both.

[Laika]

Am I missing something with Josh Palacios? Why is he never talked about as a guy that might get cut? He seems like "org filler" from the stat line, is he THAT good a CF? Does his solid OBP translate exceptionally well or something?

 

He could get cut too, but three options makes him more valuable IMO than some other guys right now.

 

And no, I don't think he's even a surefire CF. Might just be a fringe CF with some hitting skills, decent speed, average raw power. Tweener.

[Jimcanuck]

Am I missing something with Josh Palacios? Why is he never talked about as a guy that might get cut? He seems like "org filler" from the stat line, is he THAT good a CF? Does his solid OBP translate exceptionally well or something?

 

There were good reports out of the alternate site on him. Can't remember where I was reading about it.

[Grant77]

Do the Jays have anyone on the 40 that can head straight to the 60 day DL? Who is the next cut? We still have to cut one for Semien

 

To be clear, I'm advocating for bench players on minor league deals, which wouldn't take a roster spot.

[Laika]

Shun Yamaguchi

Derek Fisher - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Sean Reid-Foley - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Yennsy Diaz - probably gets claimed but do we care?

Ty Tice - completely replaceable, may not even get claimed

 

I think they'll find cash buyers for a couple of these guys, maybe Yennsy and SRF.

 

I guess they did find a buyer...

[L54]

Id be interested in guys like Jed Lowrie, Assdribble, or even bringing Panik back. I think if they upgrade the bench it needs to be a left handed hitter who can play second and third.