Rosterbation Discussion Thread (2021)

[TheHurl]

To be clear, I'm advocating for bench players on minor league deals, which wouldn't take a roster spot.

 

Eventually they have to take a 40 man spot to get to the bench though. Not saying we shouldn't have these options but at this point we will not be the optimal destination for these vets

[Jays24]

Id be interested in guys like Jed Lowrie, Assdribble, or even bringing Panik back. I think if they upgrade the bench it needs to be a left handed hitter who can play second and third.

 

The "professional hitter" (Panik) might be coming back. He started off slow but really picked it up afterwards. Not a bad bench option.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Jays24

[L54]

The "professional hitter" might be coming back. He started off slow but really picked it up afterwards. Not a bad bench option.

 

Panik? He’d be third on that list but could do worse

[Jays24]

Panik? He’d be third on that list but could do worse

 

Ya its just a guess since there is familiarity with him.

[G-Snarls]

Flipping through the MLB news today and it hit me all over again

 

OMFG we're going to have George Springer and Marcus Semien batting early in the order this year!!!

 

I'm F'n excited. Sometimes I almost can't beleive we actually got Springer.

[z3r0s]

I'm with you, it doesn't quite seem real yet how good/deep the lineup is going to be.

[G-Snarls]

I'm with you, it doesn't quite seem real yet how good/deep the lineup is going to be.

 

It's going to be fun to watch, especially if Vlad get going

[Laika]

Imagine if: Everyone stays healthy, Kirk takes over C, Vladdy breaks out, Tellez doesn't regress much, and Hernandez doesn't regress much...

 

Springer .360 wOBA

Bo .360 wOBA

Teoscar .350 wOBA

Vlad .360 wOBA

Tellez .350 wOBA

Gurriel .350 wOBA

Semien .330 wOBA

Kirk .330 wOBA

Biggio .335 wOBA

 

Look at that 7-8-9, lmao

[L54]

Need another starter to chew up innings. Odorizzi would be my preference. He should be cheap enough that he wouldn’t hault another addition at the deadline or next offseason. I don’t have faith in any starter beyond Ryu and betting on him making 25 starts seems like a bad idea.

[G-Snarls]

Imagine if: Everyone stays healthy, Kirk takes over C, Vladdy breaks out, Tellez doesn't regress much, and Hernandez doesn't regress much...

 

Springer .360 wOBA

Bo .360 wOBA

Teoscar .350 wOBA

Vlad .360 wOBA

Tellez .350 wOBA

Gurriel .350 wOBA

Semien .330 wOBA

Kirk .330 wOBA

Biggio .335 wOBA

 

Look at that 7-8-9, lmao

 

That's a boring lineup. Everyone has almost the same wOBA!

 

Jk

 

And damn, even Charlie can't mess up that lineup. It kinda doesn't matter how you order them if they all hit like that.

[Eat My Shatkins]

If the Jays were to sign Paxton, we'd have 4 lefties in the rotation.

 

(L) Ryu

(L) Paxton

® Pearson

(L) Ray

(L) Matz

 

 

 

On a different subject, does anyone think they'll run a 6 man rotation this season to spread the innings around, considering nobody pitched a starters work load in 2020?

 

(L) Ryu

® Pearson

(L) Ray

® Stripling

(L) Matz

® Roark

[Jays24]

If the Jays were to sign Paxton, we'd have 4 lefties in the rotation.

 

(L) Ryu

(L) Paxton

® Pearson

(L) Ray

(L) Matz

 

 

 

On a different subject, does anyone think they'll run a 6 man rotation this season to spread the innings around, considering nobody pitched a starters work load in 2020?

 

(L) Ryu

® Pearson

(L) Ray

® Stripling

(L) Matz

® Roark

 

Depending on Springer training because who knows who shows up with shut down stuff, I think we'll do the whole piggyback thing for our bottom 2 starters.

 

Ryu

Free agent or trade

Pearson

Ray/Striping

Matz/Roark

[G-Snarls]

Depending on Springer training because who knows who shows up with shut down stuff, I think we'll do the whole piggyback thing for our bottom 2 starters.

 

Ryu

Free agent or trade

Pearson

Ray/Striping

Matz/Roark

 

OK we should now officially call it Springer Training for this year

 

Who's with me?

[Deadpool]

Need another starter to chew up innings. Odorizzi would be my preference. He should be cheap enough that he wouldn’t hault another addition at the deadline or next offseason. I don’t have faith in any starter beyond Ryu and betting on him making 25 starts seems like a bad idea.

 

I've been back and forth on which of the 3 likely options we should sign, and the more I think of it, the more I consider it kinda a wash between Odorizzi/Paxton/Walker. Walker is clearly the weakest one of the group, but not by a huge margin, and I'm VERY intrigued by his eagerness to take advantage of the Jays resources to improve himself...

 

I'd be okay with any of the 3 though.

[Jimcanuck]

I've been back and forth on which of the 3 likely options we should sign, and the more I think of it, the more I consider it kinda a wash between Odorizzi/Paxton/Walker. Walker is clearly the weakest one of the group, but not by a huge margin, and I'm VERY intrigued by his eagerness to take advantage of the Jays resources to improve himself...

 

I'd be okay with any of the 3 though.

 

Than you go with the guy with the lowest health risk, perceived anyway. Which would be Odorizzi?

[Ray]

Imagine if: Everyone stays healthy, Kirk takes over C, Vladdy breaks out, Tellez doesn't regress much, and Hernandez doesn't regress much...

 

Springer .360 wOBA

Bo .360 wOBA

Teoscar .350 wOBA

Vlad .360 wOBA

Tellez .350 wOBA

Gurriel .350 wOBA

Semien .330 wOBA

Kirk .330 wOBA

Biggio .335 wOBA

 

Look at that 7-8-9, lmao

 

Or Jansen stops getting unlucky and performs to his xwOBA from last season: .339!

 

Should also note, this was already a team that was Top 5 in the AL in almost every offensive metric last season, to which we've added Springer and Semien and hopefully the younger guys taking a big step. League average pitching alone probably wins you 88-90 games with our projected offense.

[Jays24]

OK we should now officially call it Springer Training for this year

 

Who's with me?

 

Loll oops

[Deadpool]

Than you go with the guy with the lowest health risk, perceived anyway. Which would be Odorizzi?

 

Walker was healthier last season than either Odorizzi/Paxton, but super fragile the seasons before that. Tough to say who is the more durable one going forward, but I mean, the team will have a lot more access to medicals etc than we do, so they'll make a more informed decision than I can

 

Odorizzi is probably my brain's choice, but I really do find Walker intriguing for reasons that aren't necessarily all that brain-thinkie.

[glory]

My guess is they will end up taking whoever bites on a one year deal. Odorizzi probably wants multi years. Paxton will likely take one year, but would he take a pillow contract in the AL East pitching home games in Dunedin? Walker might be the most realistic in that case.

[Brownie19]

Than you go with the guy with the lowest health risk, perceived anyway. Which would be Odorizzi?

 

Odorizzi may also have the highest upside. For me, he's the clear choice. Odorizzi > Paxton >> Walker

[Brownie19]

Flipping through the MLB news today and it hit me all over again

 

OMFG we're going to have George Springer and Marcus Semien batting early in the order this year!!!

 

I'm F'n excited. Sometimes I almost can't beleive we actually got Springer.

 

Funny thing is Semien probably doesn't bat early in the order...that's how deep we are.

[Spanky99]

Funny thing is Semien probably doesn't bat early in the order...that's how deep we are.

 

It's f***ing nutz!!!

[Jays24]

Funny thing is Semien probably doesn't bat early in the order...that's how deep we are.

 

I think he bats in the middle of the order, which seems higher than most people here think. It is a tough one because we have no clue how good Vladdy will be and how real Teo and Tellez are.

 

If everyone is as good as we think they will be, I go with the below. Tellez was so damn good in the 3 hole before he got hurt so I really have no clue. 2 of our top 3 batters from last year can be at the bottom 3 lol.

 

Springer

Bo

Vlad

Semien

Teo

Gurriel

Tellez

Jansen

Biggio

[L54]

Than you go with the guy with the lowest health risk, perceived anyway. Which would be Odorizzi?

 

That’s my reasoning behind Odorizzi, they are going to need the innings. Ryu is far from a lock to stay healthy and will require some maintenance days where his start gets pushed back a day or two. They backed off him pretty hard at the end of the year last year. Rick Porcello is another guy who fits the bill when it comes to providing innings.

[G-Snarls]

Loll oops

 

Perfect typo

[L54]

My guess is they will end up taking whoever bites on a one year deal. Odorizzi probably wants multi years. Paxton will likely take one year, but would he take a pillow contract in the AL East pitching home games in Dunedin? Walker might be the most realistic in that case.

 

I agree with all of this. I would rather overpay Paxton for one year than sign Walker.

[L54]

On a different subject, does anyone think they'll run a 6 man rotation this season to spread the innings around, considering nobody pitched a starters work load in 2020?

 

(L) Ryu

® Pearson

(L) Ray

® Stripling

(L) Matz

® Roark

 

Interesting idea, I hadn’t thought of this. My guess is no and that we will just see them use piggy backs or opener/long guy to manage everyone’s workload.

[G-Snarls]

I'm actually a bit excited to see what Ray and Matz can do this year

 

Hoping spring training at the Dunedin faculty with Pete Walker is fruitful

[NHLPRO]

I would like to see this i have a feeling Biggio is going to have a great year! Such a awesome deep lineup!

 

Springer

Biggio

Vladdy

Bichette

Gurriel Jr.

Teoscar

Semien

Grichuk/Tellez

Jansen/Kirk

[Jays24]

I would like to see this i have a feeling Biggio is going to have a great year! Such a awesome deep lineup!

 

Springer

Biggio

Vladdy

Bichette

Gurriel Jr.

Teoscar

Semien

Grichuk/Tellez

Jansen/Kirk

 

I see Springer and Bo being our 1/2. You can't move Springer out of his spot that's been so good to him unless he says so. Such a crazy deep lineup regardless.