Around Baseball 2020

[connorp]

I like this. The vastly inferior team now has a vastly inferior chance of winning today.

 

Luis Garcia is an okay prospect though so there is a chance he just goes off and shuts down a team that has never seen him before. I think his stuff is solid.

 

They wouldn’t be vastly inferior if they had their Ace (Verlander) pitching multiple games:)

[Spanky99]

glory's nightmare is coming...

 

https://www.tsn.ca/resourceful-rays-are-once-again-a-club-to-copy-1.1539698

[TheHurl]

glory's nightmare is coming...

 

https://www.tsn.ca/resourceful-rays-are-once-again-a-club-to-copy-1.1539698

 

The bonus out of this is that effective once and twice through pitchers are going to get paid in about 3 years

[glory]

The bonus out of this is that effective once and twice through pitchers are going to get paid in about 3 years

 

I hope you’re right because that’s the future of SPs in the sport.

[Laika]

Ah, I see the World Series schedule has 2 off days. It's the normal non-Covid format.

[Olerud363]

Ah, I see the World Series schedule has 2 off days. It's the normal non-Covid format.

 

In part to miss Thursday and Monday night football.

[Brownie19]

In part to miss Thursday and Monday night football.

 

It's a good point and probably strategically aligned to avoid those 2 games - but FFS, nobody should want to watch Giants/Eagles on Thursday night. Barf.

[TheHurl]

I hope you’re right because that’s the future of SPs in the sport.

 

Of course it is. The Book wrote of this. If the league had an analytics team employed they would warn of these things and they could make changes in advance to slow the decrease in scoring instead of being reactive. Instead they hire from the same pool the broadcasts do

[BTS]

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2020-10-20/padres-luis-campusano-marijuana-possession

 

Luis Campusano arrested after being pulled over with 79 grams of weed.

[Spanky99]

Hi...

[King]

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2020-10-20/padres-luis-campusano-marijuana-possession

 

Luis Campusano arrested after being pulled over with 79 grams of weed.

Padres are having a fun offseason so far.

[Spanky99]

Padres are having a fun offseason so far.

 

79 grams of pot, geeze. I'm looking bud.

Edited October 21, 2020 by Spanky99

[Carlos Danger]

Padres are having a fun offseason so far.

 

Definitely sounds like a fun bunch of guys to party with.. Strippers and weed

[King]

 

Manfred sucks

[dineke]

Time to lower the mound again.

[Brownie19]

Devin Williams was named the 2020 Trevor Hoffman National League Reliever of the Year.

Williams bested fellow finalists Trevor Rosenthal and Jeremy Jeffress to earn the award.

 

wha, hrmmm, why the f*** was Jeremy Jeffress a finalist?

 

6.56 K/9

4.62 BB/9

4.69 xFIP

[Spanky99]

Devin Williams was named the 2020 Trevor Hoffman National League Reliever of the Year.

Williams bested fellow finalists Trevor Rosenthal and Jeremy Jeffress to earn the award.

 

wha, hrmmm, why the f*** was Jeremy Jeffress a finalist?

 

6.56 K/9

4.62 BB/9

4.69 xFIP

 

lol... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Krylian]

Devin Williams was named the 2020 Trevor Hoffman National League Reliever of the Year.

Williams bested fellow finalists Trevor Rosenthal and Jeremy Jeffress to earn the award.

 

wha, hrmmm, why the f*** was Jeremy Jeffress a finalist?

 

6.56 K/9

4.62 BB/9

4.69 xFIP

 

1.54 ERA and 0.943 WHIP.

 

Traditional stats still seem to carry a ton of weight

[connorp]

Go figure. Over a short period of time for pitching, advanced metrics are clearly the best measure and they shun that but for gold gloves, which advanced stats are kind of crap for in a short period, they base it on that

[connorp]

Not to be a troll but honestly I’d rather give Jeter a GG than Lourdes.. I’m sure you guys watch a lot more games than me but I’ve seen enough of Lourdes taking bad routes to know that’s egregious

[Jimcanuck]

1.54 ERA and 0.943 WHIP.

 

Traditional stats still seem to carry a ton of weight

 

Among the casual fans, yes. These season end awards are mostly for them. Business.

[Dick_Pole]

 

Manfred sucks

 

This is stupid, but I guess it's Manfred's sad attempt to try and limit the Rays gaming the system. The league should just come out and say any new idea the Rays try is automatically banned. Force the team to be 62-100 every year until they can move or disband it.

[Orgfiller]

Not to be a troll but honestly I’d rather give Jeter a GG than Lourdes.. I’m sure you guys watch a lot more games than me but I’ve seen enough of Lourdes taking bad routes to know that’s egregious

 

Except Jeter was a significantly worse fielder at his position that LGJ is at his lol.

[Abomination]

This is stupid, but I guess it's Manfred's sad attempt to try and limit the Rays gaming the system. The league should just come out and say any new idea the Rays try is automatically banned. Force the team to be 62-100 every year until they can move or disband it.

 

It depends how they implement it. I think it's more likely that they say there has to be two infielders on each side of second base. Where teams position them can still be optimized, but it prevents any of the extreme shifts.

[King]

 

Guess they aren't testing for roids in the minors right now

[Pendleton]

 

Guess they aren't testing for roids in the minors right now

 

17 year old baseball player by day, 29 year old powerlifter/bouncer by night.

[Maahfaace]

Manfred: MLB dealing with 'historic' debt after pandemic-shortened season

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2044393

 

 

Is $3.1 billion in losses correct? Can anyone who has time verify this? This seems quite a bit higher than I would have guessed.

[Laika]

 

Guess they aren't testing for roids in the minors right now

 

I guess he's not going to be a CF... probably not even a good OF with that body. Tank!

[Laika]

Manfred: MLB dealing with 'historic' debt after pandemic-shortened season

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2044393

 

Is $3.1 billion in losses correct? Can anyone who has time verify this? This seems quite a bit higher than I would have guessed.

 

MLBTR presents some skepticism:

 

Talk of revenue losses throughout the sport has been prominent since the outset of the Covid-19 pandemic, but commissioner Rob Manfred put some more concrete numbers on the concept this week. In an interview with Barry M. Bloom for Sportico, Manfred claimed that the league’s 30 teams have amassed a collective $8.3 billion in debt and will post anywhere from $2.8 to $3.0 billion in combined operational losses.

 

Manfred’s comments come at a time when many clubs throughout the league have made sweeping layoffs to both business-side and baseball operations employees. The Athletic’s Alex Coffey reported last week that the A’s, for instance, are preparing to lay off upwards of 150 employees who were furloughed throughout much of the 2020 season. They’re far from the only club making such broad-ranging cuts, although Oakland certainly figures to be on the more extreme end of the spectrum.

 

Evan Drellich of The Athletic wrote yesterday that a league official claimed Major League Baseball’s EBITDA — earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization — showed a loss of $2.7 billion but also noted that with the league’s books closed, such numbers can’t be independently verified. A league official claimed to Drellich, perhaps more dubiously, that even under normal conditions the league would have expected $10 billion in revenue against $10.2 billion of expenses — a rather eye-opening and frankly questionable assertion when considering last year’s widely reported $10.7 billion of revenue for MLB.

 

In that sense, the claims put forth by Manfred and the unnamed league official(s) who spoke to Drellich on the condition of anonymity call back to the ugly standoff between MLB and the MLBPA during return-to-play negotiations, wherein the players repeatedly called for ownership to open its books and provide quantitative evidence of the extent of the damage they were facing. Detractors will surely question the veracity of the league’s figures, which Drellich notes do not account for “ancillary” revenue streams like stakes in regional sports networks.

 

Regardless, there’s no doubting that revenue losses felt by clubs in the absence of fans is enormous. The job cuts throughout the sport are but one way for ownership to soften the blow, but the most direct means of correcting course for owners is expected to be via club payroll. For months we’ve heard expectations of a bloated group of non-tendered players and a tepid market for free agents. To that end, Bloom notes that some club executives have already signaled that they won’t be able to commit salary to players this winter.

 

Some clubs will surely still spend money. The purported $2.8 to $3 billion in operating losses isn’t necessarily divided evenly among the league’s 30 clubs, and tolerance for loss varies from owner to owner (or ownership group to ownership group). Still, on a macro level it’s wise to anticipate large-scale reductions in team payrolls.

 

Most concerning for players, remaining club employees and the health of the sport is the potential for additional revenue losses in 2021. While the obvious hope is that fans will be back in the park for a full 162-game slate next season, that’s wholly dependent on the status of the coronavirus and the associated public health guidelines in place. To this point there’s no clear timeline on when a vaccine will be produced, approved, scaled and distributed such that clubs could expect business as usual. And while Manfred has previously taken an optimistic tone on that front, he struck a different chord in speaking with Bloom this week.

 

“t’s going to be difficult for the industry to weather another year where we don’t have fans in the ballpark and have other limitations on how much we can’t play and how we can play,” Manfred told Bloom. “…It’s absolutely certain, I know, that we’re going to have to have conversations with the MLBPA about what 2021 is going to look like. It’s difficult to foresee a situation right now where everything’s just normal.”

[Dick_Pole]

Should have made MLB a publicly traded entity. The stock would be at an all-time high right now and they could have sold some stock in the public markets to finance the losses. Winning!!!

 

But yeah I don't see how the players are going to win in this situation if teams are desperate enough to lay off employees making $50,000 a year or whatever. Absolutely terrible optics if the players get paid this offseason. Best to sign one year deals and try again after the new CBA deal.