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[Dick_Pole]

David Ortiz going all Tony Montana on Fiers lol

 

[glory]

Luis Severino shut down with forearm discomfort. That's both him and Paxton down in the Yankees rotation.

 

People were questioning why he took $40m from the Yankees last year coming off a 5.4 WAR season, but he's been hurt ever since signing the contract save for a couple of starts at the end of last season/playoffs (20 innings total counting reg season and playoffs). Pitchers are so damn risky.

[Jimcanuck]

Luis Severino shut down with forearm discomfort. That's both him and Paxton down in the Yankees rotation.

 

And the Red Sox rotation could be a tire fire. Happy days are coming.

[Laika]

And the Red Sox rotation could be a tire fire. Happy days are coming.

 

The Yankees are still the Yankees. The Red Sox are still the Red Sox. Hoping for them to be bad is like hoping for Trump to get syphilis. Probably never going to happen again!

[Jimcanuck]

The Yankees are still the Yankees. The Red Sox are still the Red Sox. Hoping for them to be bad is like hoping for Trump to get impeached. Probably never going to happen!

 

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[EastCoaster]

The Yankees are still the Yankees. The Red Sox are still the Red Sox. Hoping for them to be bad is like hoping for Trump to get impeached. Probably never going to happen!

 

Impeach the president that would be impossible with the most corrupted administration in US history. They make our government scandals look like the class prankster who farted in class while everyone is trying to figure out who let the stinker.

[M.E.]

Impeach the president that would be impossible with the most corrupted administration in US history. They make our government scandals look like the class prankster who farted in class while everyone is trying to figure out who let the stinker.

 

Before you start bashing Trump, who is admittedly douchey at times, take a read of the following and see if you don't like what he is doing.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

 

I'll take these accomplishments every day of the week.

[Beans]

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triggered

[max silver]

Before you start bashing Trump, who is admittedly douchey at times, take a read of the following and see if you don't like what he is doing.

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

 

I'll take these accomplishments every day of the week.

 

Holy f*** man, turn your brain on. If you read through that list of cherry picked "accomplishments" and think that they are all actually good things being listed then I suggest you start thinking every once in a while. The whole thing reads like it was written by Donald Trump himself interestingly enough given the phrasing. Things like increasing exports of coal means the world burns more coal, not exactly a fantastic accomplishment, imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum for "national security reasons" was punishing both the United States and it's supposed allies for no net economic benefit to anyone, withdrawing from the "horrible one-sided Iran agreement" means Iran is now actively enriching uranium for the purpose of creating nuclear weaponry.

[P2F]

There is a very popular Politics thread right here:

 

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/6115-Politics-Thread

 

Get that gaaahbage outta here!

[Jimcanuck]

triggered

 

Nah. Job #1 for the mods is to keep politics out of the baseball threads, hence my comment.

[Boxcar]

There is a very popular Politics thread right here:

 

https://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/6115-Politics-Thread

 

Get that gaaahbage outta here!

 

This is Laika's fault and intended result.

[Laika]

This is Laika's fault and intended result.

 

True. Sorry.

[Olerud363]

Holy f*** man, turn your brain on. If you read through that list of cherry picked "accomplishments" and think that they are all actually good things being listed then I suggest you start thinking every once in a while. The whole thing reads like it was written by Donald Trump himself interestingly enough given the phrasing. Things like increasing exports of coal means the world burns more coal, not exactly a fantastic accomplishment, imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum for "national security reasons" was punishing both the United States and it's supposed allies for no net economic benefit to anyone, withdrawing from the "horrible one-sided Iran agreement" means Iran is now actively enriching uranium for the purpose of creating nuclear weaponry.

 

Please. As others have mentioned no politics here. Go to the politics thread. It is all pointless anyway. Comrade Andrew Stoeten and the Bernie Bros will be our next rulers. Andrew will be getting a lake house I bet... the rest of us... no more chance to make our way in the world. Our fate is simply what Andrew and the rest of the committee decides for us. I wonder if they will shut down BJMB?? Don't answer here take it to the politics thread.

[max silver]

Please. As others have mentioned no politics here. Go to the politics thread. It is all pointless anyway. Comrade Andrew Stoeten and the Bernie Bros will be our next rulers. Andrew will be getting a lake house I bet... the rest of us... no more chance to make our way in the world. Our fate is simply what Andrew and the rest of the committee decides for us. I wonder if they will shut down BJMB?? Don't answer here take it to the politics thread.

 

Lol I didn't start steer the discussion towards politics in the first place so no need to direct this my way specifically.

[Pendleton]

[King]

lol

 

Anytime you can guarantee a pre-arb, very average reliever to 5 years, you do it and ask questions later.

[Spanky__99]

lol

 

Anytime you can guarantee a pre-arb, very average reliever to 5 years, you do it and ask questions later.

 

Wow.

[Grant77]

If Bummer's groundball rate and velocity spikes are maintained then he is probably worth it, but this seems like an unnecessary risk in an arb system that doesn't reward players like Bummer.

[max silver]

If Bummer's groundball rate and velocity spikes are maintained then he is probably worth it, but this seems like an unnecessary risk in an arb system that doesn't reward players like Bummer.

 

Yeah this makes me wonder what the guy could reasonably be expected to even earn in arbitration. The total contract can work out to $29.5 million as it has two option years tacked on at the end. This just seems unnecessary to hand out a contract like this to a reliever so early on.

[TheHurl]

Yeah this makes me wonder what the guy could reasonably be expected to even earn in arbitration. The total contract can work out to $29.5 million as it has two option years tacked on at the end. This just seems unnecessary to hand out a contract like this to a reliever so early on.

 

Bummer will be a Super 2, so a good example is Barnes who in his first three Arb years earned $1.6M, $2.0M and $3.1. Bummer if he has a good season this one will be better heading into his first arb so maybe you can add $1M to each of those. It's tough to find solid relievers who didn't close. Tony Watson made $5.6M in his final arb year but only had 3 arb years. Betances (who Bummer is not) earned $15.75M in his three arb years.

 

I really think they are paying Bummer for best case scenario.

[TheHurl]

My apologies for the not getting on things sooner yesterday for the politics talks. I tried to delete immediately but when I do things on my phone I have to actually remember my password to moderate and I f***ed it up. What can I say I'm old...and would like to point out that Boxy could have nipped this in the bud or butt earlier. If he were a mod!

 

Seriously though, keep the politics from the other threads. If someone makes a post and you wish to reply...quote it in the politics thread. I will show you how it's done if you'd make your way to the politics page.

[Barkerfan23]

So now one even wants to give Aaron Sanchez a try?

[Deadpool]

So now one even wants to give Aaron Sanchez a try?

 

Well, he's hurt and scheduled to miss the start of the season. But if he'll come in on an MiLB contract, I have no objection.

[Deadpool]

So now one even wants to give Aaron Sanchez a try?

 

Well, he's hurt and scheduled to miss the start of the season. But if he'll come in on an MiLB contract, I have no objection.

[Beans]

Turns out Bumgarner has been secretly competing in rodeo competitions under the alias "Mason Saunders" and even won $26,560 in a team-roping competition last December.

 

https://theathletic.com/1629527/2020/02/23/meet-mason-saunders-the-secret-rodeo-identity-of-madison-bumgarner/

[Brownie19]

Turns out Bumgarner has been secretly competing in rodeo competitions under the alias "Mason Saunders" and even won $26,560 in a team-roping competition last December.

 

https://theathletic.com/1629527/2020/02/23/meet-mason-saunders-the-secret-rodeo-identity-of-madison-bumgarner/

 

A jerk and an idiot.

[Spanky__99]

These type of articles and sports tv is going to get old fast. On Sports Centre, they talked if the HBP was intentional, it was his 3rd time up and a 2-2 breaking ball, lol. Also, I like what Matt Boyd said. I still think they should be stripped of their title, though

 

ALTUVE BOOED, NICKED BY PITCH IN SPRING DEBUT FOR ASTROS

 

Feb 24, 2020

LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) Jose Altuve insisted he tuned out the hecklers. He couldn't avoid a pitch that grazed him.

 

"He was hit in the foot. That ain't nothing, you know what I mean?" Houston Astros manager Dusty Baker said Monday after an 11-1 win over Detroit at half-empty Joker Marchant Stadium. "It wasn't intentional."

 

Altuve was loudly booed when he was introduced for his spring training debut, cheered when he struck out and called a cheater by several fans. Quite a difference from past years, when the diminutive All-Star second baseman was among the most popular players in the majors.

 

But that was before Altuve and his Houston teammates were implicated in the sign-stealing scandal that's rocked baseball.

 

"We just heard a lot of noise, and that's it," Altuve said.

 

Altuve and fellow starters Alex Bregman, Carlos Correa and Yuli Gurriel all played for the first time in the exhibition season. After Houston opened the Grapefruit League in the stadium it shares with the World Series champion Washington Nationals, this was the first time the Astros were away from their complex - providing a taste of the reaction they might receive on the road this year.

 

"We were focused on playing baseball. We know that we need to go on the field and get ready and prepared for the coming season," Altuve said. "That's what we're thinking about right now."

 

Actually, the reception during the visit to Tigertown USA in Lakeland, Florida, was fairly tame compared to what it figures to be during the regular season.

 

Early arrivals in the announced crowd of 4,891 were discouraged by ushers from gathering near the Astros dugout unless they had box seats along the third base line.

 

Hecklers aired their voices after batting practice, booing during introduction of lineups and each time Altuve, Bregman, Correa and Gurriel stepped up to the plate. Altuve got some cheers, too, when he was charged with an error for dropping a throw by Bregman from third base on a force play.

 

The quartet was treated to one more round of boos when they left the game and made the long walk up the first base line to the visiting clubhouse.

 

Altuve took a third called strike to a round of cheers in his first at-bat, then lined a crowd-quieting RBI double into the left-field corner his next time up.

 

Altuve showed no signs of being upset when he was grazed with a pitch by Tigers reliever Nick Ramirez after the batter before him, Myles Straw, homered in the fifth inning. The 2017 AL MVP was replaced by a pinch runner.

 

Baker planned to play Altuve, Bregman, Correa and Gurriel no more than five innings anyway in Houston's first true road exhibition since a Major League Baseball investigation found the Astros broke rules by illegally stealing signs during their championship season in 2017.

 

Earlier, Detroit's starting pitcher Matthew Boyd, who fanned Altuve in the first inning, said it wasn't difficult to block out the booing and heckling and remained focused on playing the game.

 

"It's spring training. Honestly, let's let it die. What's done is done. I know how everybody feels, but no one is going to change anything now," Boyd said. "The punishment's been handed out, the line's been drawn in the sand. Hopefully that shuts it down, and it's just best for everyone to move forward. They've got to live with it. That's more than enough punishment."

[Brownie19]

Great quote by Boyd.

[Laika]

"They've got to live with it. That's more than enough punishment."

 

Highly debatable. The Astros players are hiding behind the Commissioner's report, likely covering up certain other facts and methods of cheating that have not become public, and they are not even admitting that their cheating might have helped them win the World Series.