Are you happy with the Roark signing?

[BTS]

Simple question.

 

It's boring and I hate Roark, but it gets a pass from me. He raises the floor on a rotation that badly needed it, and reliable 2-win starters don't grow on trees.

[jays4life19]

There should be a 3rd option to being indifferent. I'm not unhappy, but i can't really say i'm happy either. The value is completely fine but i have a feeling he's going to get lit next year.

 

The signing was okay.

[glory]

It's not a good deal or a bad deal. Indifference is the best word. It's hard to come up with any emotion for a Tanner Roark signing.

[BTS]

I would have voted for indifferent if I had included it as an option. Wouldn't be surprising if he gets destroyed in his first full year in the AL.

[L54]

Yes. He raises the floor which was my biggest concern. Alex Wood next please

[Laika]

Yes

 

And I don't think it's a big overpay. Jordan Lyles got 2/16 and his career best season is 1.6 fWAR

[BTS]

Yes. He raises the floor which was my biggest concern. Alex Wood next please

 

Alex Wood coming in to throw 4-5 innings after Wilmer Font throws 2 would make me very happy.

[RobinThicc]

Happy? No.

 

Mad? No.

[Terminator]

I took the question very literally. Did the signing make me "happy"? No, but it didn't make me angry. I'd say I'm more indifferent to it.

 

I do think they needed to do something and it's not really an overpay. But I don't trust Roark to hold up at all over the next two years as he enters the latter stages of his career. Compare it to similar talent and I like the Pineda, Gibson and Lindbolm deals more (granted who knows how much more we would have had to have paid so I take that with a grain of salt) AND I wonder if it'd just be better to take the 12 mil a year and bake it into a better Ryu and/or Keuchel offers.

[Grant77]

I'm happy with it for now. This is a good move if we also get another starter to slot in ahead of him and perhaps another behind him.

 

Ryu

Roark

Anderson

Font/Wood

Thornton/Shoemaker

 

That rotation would give us a fighting chance at .500 and still leave us with plenty of financial flexibility going forward.

[Barkerfan23]

I'm happy with it for now. This is a good move if we also get another starter to slot in ahead of him and perhaps another behind him.

 

Ryu

Roark

Anderson

Font/Wood

Thornton/Shoemaker

 

That rotation would give us a fighting chance at .500 and still leave us with plenty of financial flexibility going forward.

 

That rotation does not give you a fighting chance at .500. Sorry it doesnt

[Amok]

That rotation does not give you a fighting chance at .500. Sorry it doesnt

 

ZIP projections for the Jays is 75 wins. So Ryu-Roark-Anderson additions wouldn't be too far off from .500. Ryu was almost 5 WAR last year. Roark 2 and Anderson 1.2. That is 8 WAR total but of course there could and will be some drop off from last year numbers.

 

Shoemaker is also a wild card, he was pitching so well before he went down.

[G-Snarls]

I'm OK with it. Don't love it don't hate it.

 

Jays can't make people take their money, and there's probably a premium required to come here to pitch at the moment vs signing with many other more competitive teams. Lindbolm and Pineda prob wouldn't have signed here for the same $$ they got elsewhere.

[Ray]

ZIP projections for the Jays is 75 wins. So Ryu-Roark-Anderson additions wouldn't be too far off from .500. Ryu was almost 5 WAR last year. Roark 2 and Anderson 1.2. That is 8 WAR total but of course there could and will be some drop off from last year numbers.

 

Shoemaker is also a wild card, he was pitching so well before he went down.

 

Pearson, Anthony Kay, Zeuch, Patrick Murphy, Joey Murray are all going to be AAA depth as well. Solid depth.

[Krylian]

He's better than what we have so at the end of the day the rotation is better than it would be without him.

 

The problem with Roark...and it's really not a problem with him at all, but the expectation seemed to be that there would be significant improvement made to the rotation...and it is disappointing when the Jays seem to be on the outside looking in again.

 

I hope Pearson becomes everything we hope he'll be.

[TheHurl]

That rotation does not give you a fighting chance at .500. Sorry it doesnt

 

you are correct...it guarantees at least that.

[wamco]

He's better than what we have so at the end of the day the rotation is better than it would be without him.

 

The problem with Roark...and it's really not a problem with him at all, but the expectation seemed to be that there would be significant improvement made to the rotation...and it is disappointing when the Jays seem to be on the outside looking in again.

 

I hope Pearson becomes everything we hope he'll be.

 

I see Pearson up by early June so I think we can make due at 5th starter til he arrives. Still need a 1

 

X

Roark

Anderson

Shoemaker

Thorton then Pearson

[bones10]

Not sure how you could be mad about the signing itself, but definitely a mediocre pitcher and would be disappointing if that's the last significant SP they picked up in the off-season.

 

Ryu pls

[wilko]

Not hard or soft from it.

[AintNoThang]

Not hard or soft from it.

 

So 2 and a half inches then?

[Daniel Labude]

[BTS]

Damn, Steamer projecting Roark for a 5.16 ERA now

[Stangstag]

Yes

 

And I don't think it's a big overpay. Jordan Lyles got 2/16 and his career best season is 1.6 fWAR

 

The free agent market is outrageous this offseason

[bones10]

Damn, Steamer projecting Roark for a 5.16 ERA now

 

I mean hes coming to the roger center in the AL East, it was always going to be a rough transition.

[Ex Player]

Its better than nothing

[TheHurl]

I mean hes coming to the roger center in the AL East, it was always going to be a rough transition.

 

Cinci has more of a hitters park than Rogers is.

[Terminator]

Damn, Steamer projecting Roark for a 5.16 ERA now

 

Can't wait for 160 innings of that

[Bobthe4th]

Cinci has more of a hitters park than Rogers is.

 

The second part is the important bit - AL East = DH and the Yankees & Red Sox.

[FrozenRopes]

He's a solid 3rd starter. Problem is, he moves into the ace role on this team.