AintNoThang Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 https://blogs.fangraphs.com/predicting-the-2019-trade-deadline/ Fangraphs article predicting Stroman and Giles both to the Yanks for Clint Frazier and Miguel Andujar. Sogard to the Cubs is also mentioned. I wouldn't totally oppose that. Is there any way they could flip Fraizer for a pitching prospect?
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 I wouldn't totally oppose that. Is there any way they could flip Fraizer for a pitching prospect? Almost certainly. I think Frazier is being drastically undervalued around here.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Yeah sign me up to take the next brandon drury off their hands Holy s*** i would hate Atkins if this happened.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 I wouldn't totally oppose that. Is there any way they could flip Fraizer for a pitching prospect? If the Jays make that deal (hope they don't), I'd look to flip both of them.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Tell me a deal Cashman has made that worked out for the other team. Goddamn he took Paxton off of Seatle and gave them s***. Stay away from him. Go to AA, Braves have a couple of good pitching prospect in their top 100
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 That article weirdly treats Giles like he's kinda a throw-in to the trade? I emphatically dislike that proposed trade.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Tell me a deal Cashman has made that worked out for the other team. Gray for Shed Long and a competitive balance pick was awful. Really awful.
P2F Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Caleb Smith and Garrett Cooper for Michael King is a bad one, as is Taylor Widener for Brandon Drury.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 No interest at all in Andujar for Stroman or Giles. He's a 1B who's projected to be a league-average bat.
AintNoThang Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 No interest at all in Andujar for Stroman or Giles. He's a 1B who's projected to be a league-average bat. Wow. No idea his defense was that bad. Yeah, hard pass.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 No interest at all in Andujar for Stroman or Giles. He's a 1B who's projected to be a league-average bat. Yeah, the article was "Frazier isn't enough for Stroman, so toss in Giles and Andujar to even it out". I'd be pretty pissed with Andujar as the return for Giles 1 for 1, frankly.
sdyment Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Was there some hub bub out in the ‘pen? Seemed like all the guys were looking inside at something... phone call re: traded reliever?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Clint and Gleybor maybe. Maybe??? c'mon.
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Yup if he goes to Houston he will become a legit ace within 2 weeks. I fully expect him to step up and dominant down the stretch for any team he goes to. He is a big game player and it's pretty common to see players step up when going from a bottom feeder to a contender.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 I'll put it out there that I love Stro even with the BS. Was great to have him for so many years. I hope we get a haul for him tho
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Wow. No idea his defense was that bad. Yeah, hard pass. Frazier's defense isn't so hot either...if we trade Stroman for Frazier, that will not make me happy.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Frazier's defense isn't so hot either...if we trade Stroman for Frazier, that will not make me happy. Stroman for Frazier would be horrendous, but if we trade with the Yankees, that's going to be the piece coming back. Cashman has plotted this for months. Whoever he gets, Frazier is going the other way. Hope it's not Stroman, unless he is willing to attach Deivi (he won't).
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Is there any indication that Mark Shapiro participates and or approves major transactions such as these ? Or is it all Atkins with 100 percent control
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Is there any indication that Mark Shapiro participates and or approves major transactions such as these ? Or is it all Atkins with 100 percent control We don't use the term Shatkins for nothing. Of course Shapiro will have input and the final say.
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 We don't use the term Shatkins for nothing. Of course Shapiro will have input and the final say. Nope
Boxcar Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 Yup How do you know? Because you're completely wrong.
M.E. Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 All I want from the trade deadline is pitching. There is so little of it in the organization that they need to turn Stroman and Giles in to 3-4 top pitching prospects.
Abomination Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 All I want from the trade deadline is pitching. There is so little of it in the organization that they need to turn Stroman and Giles in to 3-4 top pitching prospects. We just need good prospects period. I'm fine with us buying pitching and developing bats, if that's how we get the best talent.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 How do you know? Because you're completely wrong. How would you know? You're completely wrong. I can do this all day long man.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 All I want from the trade deadline is pitching. There is so little of it in the organization that they need to turn Stroman and Giles in to 3-4 top pitching prospects. 3 or 4 quality pitching prospects that turn into one or two quality pitchers? Maybe we should just extend the known commodities. It would be one thing if we were carrying a ton of bad contracts and didn't have money to spend, but we have a boat load of money to spend.
SaskJaysFan_2 Verified Member Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 I have always wanted to extend Stro. My fear in signing a player to a big, fat contract is complacency. The player stops really trying and just takes the money and runs. With Stroman, I can't see that ever being an issue. He will always find ways to try 100% and improve, even when his velo fades. He's a guy who can always re-invent himself and perform at a high level for many, many years. I don't want to trade that for uncertainty.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 25, 2019 Posted July 25, 2019 I have always wanted to extend Stro. My fear in signing a player to a big, fat contract is complacency. The player stops really trying and just takes the money and runs. With Stroman, I can't see that ever being an issue. He will always find ways to try 100% and improve, even when his velo fades. He's a guy who can always re-invent himself and perform at a high level for many, many years. I don't want to trade that for uncertainty. You never know about that stuff man. We also though Bautista would age like Ortiz and Cruz and then he fell off a cliff.
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