Around Baseball 2019

[saskjayfan]

White Sox will be good very soon.

 

So how much better was the sox core than the Jays before signing Grandal.

[BTS]

WTF Mariners

 

Any time you can give 6/24 to a 1B-only prospect who just put up a 132 wRC+ at AA in his age-23 season you do it and ask questions later.

[glory]

Abreu re-signs with the White Sox for 3/50.

 

FA's getting paid so far, although it's only been two teams (Atlanta and White Sox).

[BTS]

Abreu re-signs with the White Sox for 3/50.

 

FA's getting paid so far, although it's only been two teams (Atlanta and White Sox).

 

Seems unnecessary. They already had him for the QO amount.

[Pendleton]

WTF Mariners

 

Any time you can give 6/24 to a 1B-only prospect who just put up a 132 wRC+ at AA in his age-23 season you do it and ask questions later.

 

It's pretty bizarre. The team options wouldn't even provide that much value even if he does happen to become an above average 1B.

[The Cats Ass]

WTF Mariners

 

Any time you can give 6/24 to a 1B-only prospect who just put up a 132 wRC+ at AA in his age-23 season you do it and ask questions later.

 

Can see this making sense only if they know he turns into a Rizzo type player.

[Orgfiller]

WTF Mariners

 

Any time you can give 6/24 to a 1B-only prospect who just put up a 132 wRC+ at AA in his age-23 season you do it and ask questions later.

 

Well it worked out well for Jon Singleton who was younger, a better hitter and cheaper so I can see why the M's would jump at the opportunity to replicate that deal before it was too late.

[BTS]

Well it worked out well for Jon Singleton who was younger, a better hitter and cheaper so I can see why the M's would jump at the opportunity to replicate that deal before it was too late.

 

Yeah, that’s the first thing that came to mind for me too. Even if White does become a 2-3 win 1B, guys like that aren’t exactly breaking the bank.

Edited November 22, 2019 by BTS

[The Cats Ass]

Well it worked out well for Jon Singleton who was younger, a better hitter and cheaper so I can see why the M's would jump at the opportunity to replicate that deal before it was too late.

 

I'm surprised Singleton didn't get a chance with another team. Or atleast try his luck in Japan.

[Orgfiller]

I'm surprised Singleton didn't get a chance with another team. Or atleast try his luck in Japan.

 

Well his guaranteed money only ended in 2018 but yeah you're right. I imagine with the marijuana stuff (which is stupid but it is what it is) and related attitude issues he's just seen as too much trouble for what it's worth.

[The Cats Ass]

Well his guaranteed money only ended in 2018 but yeah you're right. I imagine with the marijuana stuff (which is stupid but it is what it is) and related attitude issues he's just seen as too much trouble for what it's worth.

 

Does the players association fight to make marijuana non-suspendable next bargaining? Or wait until it's legal in all states?

[Dr. Dinger]

It's pretty bizarre. The team options wouldn't even provide that much value even if he does happen to become an above average 1B.

 

Why on Earth would you guaranteed any money to Eric Hosmer lite? Weiiiird.

[Brownie19]

I'm surprised Singleton didn't get a chance with another team. Or atleast try his luck in Japan.

 

He was too high to think of that. Plus he had the arm bar mechanics...

[Bobthe4th]

Wow this could blow up:

 

[Terminator]

Yanks are being cheapskates

[jays4life19]

Classy move.

[G-Snarls]

Wow

 

I can see why they went this route with ARod. He was a cheater and no one cared that they were trying to not pay him.

 

But Ellsbury just got hurt. A lot.

[TheHurl]

does it come off of their luxury tax calculation too?

[Spanky99]

does it come off of their luxury tax calculation too?

 

I'd assume as much, or they'd just pay him.

[TheHurl]

Yeah, that’s the first thing that came to mind for me too. Even if White does become a 2-3 win 1B, guys like that aren’t exactly breaking the bank.

 

I'm trying to calculate what other 1B's made in arbitration. But hardly any 1B who are worth a damn made it through without an extension. Hosmer was a Super 2 who made $30.75M in his 6 years.

[Deadpool]

does it come off of their luxury tax calculation too?

 

I bet that's what the Yankees are trying to pull, but I can't imagine the MLB will just okay that before hearings/arbitration...

 

Though, they did let them build that abomination of a stadium... The Yankees get whatever they want, sadly.

[Spanky99]

Yup, going to get messy, he's a Boras client too. This will be interesting to follow.

 

Yankees Intend To Withhold Jacoby Ellsbury’s 2020 Salary

 

By Jeff Todd and Steve Adams | November 22, 2019 at 3:56pm CDT

 

3:56pm: If there was any doubt, the MLBPA erased it in a statement making clear that it’s ready to fight on this issue. (Via Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, on Twitter.) The statement provides: “The Players Association will vigorously defend any action taken against Jacoby or his contract and is investigating potential contract violations by his employer.”

 

1:26pm: The Yankees finally cut bait on Jacoby Ellsbury this week, begrudgingly waving the white flag on the center fielder’s ill-fated seven-year, $153MM contract. Ellsbury is still owed $26,142,857 of that deal — his 2020 salary plus a $5MM buyout on his option for the 2021 season. But he may not receive all of that cash without a fight.

 

It seems the Yankees intend not to pay Ellsbury his salary for the coming season, based upon the premise that Ellsbury underwent outside medical treatment without approval to rehab the injuries that have plagued him since 2017. George A. King III and Ken Davidoff of the New York Post reported the brewing battle, with Jon Heyman of MLB Network adding further details (via Twitter).

 

We don’t know much about the precise factual underpinnings of this issue, but the reporting suggests the team believes that Ellsbury acted inappropriately for multiple years. Presumably, the organization believes it can establish that the alleged actions not only violated the terms of his contract, but also contributed to his inability to return to the field of play over the past two seasons.

 

Ellsbury’s outlook for 2020 isn’t really known, though there has been no indication that he’s likely to play. The once-excellent outfielder had a few solid but generally uninspiring years in New York before falling apart physically more recently. We’ve seen a steady stream of generally ambiguous ailments cited over the past few campaigns. The 36-year-old hasn’t even made it into a single rehab game.

 

What we do now know is the anticipated procedural progression of the dispute. The Yankees will simply refuse to cut Ellsbury his checks, per Heyman, leaving it to him and agent Scott Boras to pursue a grievance action. It is somewhat difficult to imagine that there won’t be a full-throated battle on both the factual and contractual merits of the Yanks’ anticipated course of action, though certainly a settlement will also be possible. No doubt the league, union, and Yankees’ insurer will have major roles to play in this as well.

 

It’s all but impossible to guess how this’ll turn out based upon what little we know at present. There’s nothing in terms of recent precedent for such a grievance — at least not one that was public knowledge — so it’s difficult to gauge just how much of the contract the Yankees might ultimately be able to avoid paying or whether they even have a legitimate hope of winning their case. But any finances saved will be notable, as the Yankees currently have about $203MM on the books for 2020 (including projected arbitration salaries) and about $210MM worth of luxury tax considerations.

[G-Snarls]

I bet that's what the Yankees are trying to pull, but I can't imagine the MLB will just okay that before hearings/arbitration...

 

Though, they did let them build that abomination of a stadium... The Yankees get whatever they want, sadly.

 

I think they REALLY want to sign Stras or Cole and yet still manage to stay under the luxury tax. They've cut Ellsbury, Edwin and Gregorious already to save $$. (Though I can still see Gregorious coming back possibly)

[Spanky99]

I think they REALLY want to sign Stras or Cole and yet still manage to stay under the luxury tax. They've cut Ellsbury, Edwin and Gregorious already to save $$. (Though I can still see Gregorious coming back possibly)

 

You don't get it mate?

[Barkerfan23]

Baseballs free agency sure is fun

[Orgfiller]

 

Probably more than he would have gotten in last year's free agency so good for him. D'Arnaud projects pretty well so a nice deal for the Braves here.

[Orgfiller]

Also interesting to continue to see teams announcing their own signings before reporters get the scoop first.

[Stangstag]

 

Probably more than he would have gotten in last year's free agency so good for him. D'Arnaud projects pretty well so a nice deal for the Braves here.

 

AA just can’t help himself when it comes to acquiring ex-jays players

[BTS]

 

Probably more than he would have gotten in last year's free agency so good for him. D'Arnaud projects pretty well so a nice deal for the Braves here.

 

IIRC all four FA signings so far have exceeded median FG crowdsourced projections. I like it.

[glory]

November 6th headline: "MLBPA Announces Investigation into Alex Anthopoulos' Comments About Free Agency"

 

November 24th tweet: "Atlanta has made three of the four free agent signings this winter and now guaranteed $69 million to d’Arnaud, Will Smith and Chris Martin."

 

Hey, as long as the players are getting paid, that's all that matters.