Around Baseball 2019

[Krylian]

Well, I'll bite.

 

6. The shooter is a Yankees fan.

 

7. He's a Jays fan and wanted to give us something to talk about cause it sure ain't the team.

[Ex Player]

Well, I'll bite.

 

6. The shooter is a Yankees fan.

7. Papi is really a cross-dresser. The 2 had sex but Papi failed to disclose he was really a man

[Brownie19]

Well you see, this is called a baseball forum where people tend to discuss these type of things, since.......well.......its a baseball forum

 

 

FAIL

 

This isn't Facebook or the Sportsnet comment section. This board typically likes to discuss facts. You, randomly posting lists of ******** motives is pointless and stupid. That isn't what this board is for.

Edited June 10, 2019 by Brownie19

[Olerud363]

This isn't facebook or the sportnet comment section. This board typically likes to discuss facts. You, randomly posting lists of ******** motives is pointless and stupid. That isn't what this board is for.

 

People shouldn't be disrespectful or make light of the situation, especially as news first reports first broke and his condition was uncertain.

 

Otherwise it's fair game to talk about what the motive may have been. Probably 95% of what is posted here isn't fact and is speculation. Trade speculation, performance speculation. Does anybody know why Vlad was benched yesterday??? Regular maintenance or because he didn't hustle on a couple of plays?? No one knows for sure, but we can discuss.

 

Same with the Ortiz situation, as long as it doesn't venture into bad taste.

[Ray]

Congrats to Edwin for hitting his 400th HR over the weekend!

 

Does he make it to 500?

[Terminator]

Congrats to Edwin for hitting his 400th HR over the weekend!

 

Does he make it to 500?

 

Good question, I'd probably bet against it unfortunately. Let's say he hits 15-20 more this year. He'd need 80-85 more homers from Age 37 on. That's going to take 3 seasons. Will he still be productive and hitting enough to find the playing time in his Age 39 season?

 

I guess the other option is if somehow can manage to find work as a pinch hitter late in his career like Jason Giambi. Giambi squeezed out an extra 5 seasons starting at age 39 simply by becoming a punch hitter who got 150ish ABs a year. That got him 30 more extra homers. It seems like teams are trending away from using the 25th roster spot on veteran presents though.

[BTS]

If Edwin does get to 500 homers, he probably still finishes at less than 40 fWAR (he's at 33.3 right now). Does he get into the HoF?

 

It's crazy that we're even having this conversation about a guy who was waived in his age-27 season and finished his age-28-season at 7.5 fWAR. Would be kind of like Randal Grichuk suddenly going on a 10-year run as one of the best hitters in baseball.

[Ray]

If Edwin does get to 500 homers, he probably still finishes at less than 40 fWAR (he's at 33.3 right now). Does he get into the HoF?

 

It's crazy that we're even having this conversation about a guy who was waived in his age-27 season and finished his age-28-season at 7.5 fWAR. Would be kind of like Randal Grichuk suddenly going on a 10-year run as one of the best hitters in baseball.

 

This is exactly why I always wanted Adam Dunn to hit 500 HR. It would've been really interesting to see what the voters would've done there.

 

There's less than 0 case for both WAR wise, but 500 HR is such a huge milestone. Granted, the juiced balls kind of take away from HR's now a days.

[glory]

You know, I didn't like Edwin at 4/80, but damn I wish we waited a bit and got him at 3/60. One fewer year just looked a lot better.

 

Although that means no Nate Pearson, so maybe not.

[Brownie19]

This is exactly why I always wanted Adam Dunn to hit 500 HR. It would've been really interesting to see what the voters would've done there.

 

There's less than 0 case for both WAR wise, but 500 HR is such a huge milestone. Granted, the juiced balls kind of take away from HR's now a days.

 

This. I'd argue almost any single milestone shouldn't guarantee you a spot in the HOF (3,000 hits, 500 hr, 250 or 300 wins). We should be at a point where we look past a single milestone to judge performance. We discussed the possibility of Nick Markakis getting to 3,000 hits, which is similar to EE and 500 HRs.

[KevinGregg]

You know, I didn't like Edwin at 4/80, but damn I wish we waited a bit and got him at 3/60. One fewer year just looked a lot better.

 

Although that means no Nate Pearson, so maybe not.

 

Gotta hope the Jays take Pearson instead of Warmoth in the draft if they don't have the comp pick. Pearson is like 95% of my future excitement for the pitching on this team

[Spanky99]

Drug dealer shoots National hero...lets take bets on whether we ever hear this full story told

 

I'll take the under from media... and the over from Ang, tweet Mr. Bastardo, please.

[Brownie19]

I'll take the under from media... and the over from Ang, tweet Mr. Bastardo, please.

 

Where the f*** is Ang? I thought he'd be all over this. Maybe he's still out boot f***ing the guy who shot him.

[Omar]

[Ex Player]

This isn't Facebook or the Sportsnet comment section. This board typically likes to discuss facts. You, randomly posting lists of ******** motives is pointless and stupid. That isn't what this board is for

Maybe you can delete my post then??

 

Oh wait never mind, you're not a mod

[KevinGregg]

Maybe you can delete my post then??

 

Oh wait never mind, you're not a mod

 

Interesting hill to die on here

[Jaysareus]

Confirmed from my friend in Santo Domingo jealous boyfriend put a hit out on Ortiz. Ortiz recently bought an $84000 car for his mistress who had a bf. The have photos of the cheque and pictures of the girl

[Brownie19]

Confirmed from my friend in Santo Domingo jealous boyfriend put a hit out on Ortiz. Ortiz recently bought an $84000 car for his mistress who had a bf. The have photos of the cheque and pictures of the girl

 

yeeeesh. That's a pretty s***** hitman if true. Rookie.

[Spanky99]

Confirmed from my friend in Santo Domingo jealous boyfriend put a hit out on Ortiz. Ortiz recently bought an $84000 car for his mistress who had a bf. The have photos of the cheque and pictures of the girl

 

lol... Shut-Up, you don't know Ang!

[KevinGregg]

cool new defensive metric: Jumps - It's defined as: "How many feet did he cover in the right direction in the first three seconds after pitch release?"

 

2019 Jump leaders (leaderboard)

 

+3.0 feet above average -- Kevin Kiermaier, Rays

+2.9 feet above average -- Guillermo Heredia, Rays

+2.0 feet above average -- Leury Garcia, White Sox

+1.9 feet above average -- Robbie Grossman, A's

+1.7 feet above average -- Harrison Bader, Cardinals

+1.7 feet above average -- Jackie Bradley Jr., Red Sox

+1.5 feet above average -- Ender Inciarte, Braves

+1.4 feet above average -- Cody Bellinger, Dodgers

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/new-outfield-jump-burst-route-metrics-at-baseball-savant

[Spanky99]

Holy s***... the bullet did hit some major organs, very lucky Big Papi, the Bosox sent a jet to bring him to Boston.

 

 

At a press conference, Dr. Abel González confirms David Ortiz had wounds that required resection in the large and small intestine, colon and liver. He will travel to Boston today to go to Mass General.

[Brownie19]

cool new defensive metric: Jumps - It's defined as: "How many feet did he cover in the right direction in the first three seconds after pitch release?"

 

2019 Jump leaders (leaderboard)

 

+3.0 feet above average -- Kevin Kiermaier, Rays

+2.9 feet above average -- Guillermo Heredia, Rays

+2.0 feet above average -- Leury Garcia, White Sox

+1.9 feet above average -- Robbie Grossman, A's

+1.7 feet above average -- Harrison Bader, Cardinals

+1.7 feet above average -- Jackie Bradley Jr., Red Sox

+1.5 feet above average -- Ender Inciarte, Braves

+1.4 feet above average -- Cody Bellinger, Dodgers

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/new-outfield-jump-burst-route-metrics-at-baseball-savant

 

Just of interest - Kevin Pillar doesn't show up in any of the lists. Reaction, Burst or Route.

[connorp]

Confirmed from my friend in Santo Domingo jealous boyfriend put a hit out on Ortiz. Ortiz recently bought an $84000 car for his mistress who had a bf. The have photos of the cheque and pictures of the girl

 

I read drug lord

[connorp]

yeeeesh. That's a pretty s***** hitman if true. Rookie.

 

 

Yep. Plenty of ways to go, poisoning his drink...sniper shot...this guy walks up point blank to assure he’ll get caught and still fails lol. Not sure what the guy footing the bill was thinking

[connorp]

Oh I didn’t read back. You guys have been on this s*** already lol

[BTS]

Apparently Ortiz was f***ing some drug lord’s wife. Play stupid games...

[connorp]

Apparently Ortiz was f***ing some drug lord’s wife. Play stupid games...

 

Guess being a national icon does you only so much good, they sure tossed him under the bus pretty quick

[Orgfiller]

Just of interest - Kevin Pillar doesn't show up in any of the lists. Reaction, Burst or Route.

 

In his peak defensive season (2016) by UZR, DRS and Statcast, his jump was +1.0 feet above average which is about ~0.3-0.5 feet from being in that elite group it seems. He's consistently rated well by route, but his reaction has usually been around average with his burst declining year by year, likely as a result of aging and the wear on his body from all those diving plays. The interesting thing is that although his sprint speed has never been in the upper echelon, certainly not for CF, he was still making a lot of those difficult plays. So something about his closing speed, or the ability to maintain his top velocity combined with taking good routes and his lack of care for his body on diving opportunities is what made him so good despite his jumps being nothing special.

 

With that said, Statcast has never been a big fan of Pillar since 2016, seemingly placing him as more of an average CF, whereas DRS loved him in 2017 with UZR a fan but more reserved, then a decline in 2018, and a much steeper decline in a small sample in 2019.

[Orgfiller]

cool new defensive metric: Jumps - It's defined as: "How many feet did he cover in the right direction in the first three seconds after pitch release?"

 

2019 Jump leaders (leaderboard)

 

+3.0 feet above average -- Kevin Kiermaier, Rays

+2.9 feet above average -- Guillermo Heredia, Rays

+2.0 feet above average -- Leury Garcia, White Sox

+1.9 feet above average -- Robbie Grossman, A's

+1.7 feet above average -- Harrison Bader, Cardinals

+1.7 feet above average -- Jackie Bradley Jr., Red Sox

+1.5 feet above average -- Ender Inciarte, Braves

+1.4 feet above average -- Cody Bellinger, Dodgers

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/new-outfield-jump-burst-route-metrics-at-baseball-savant

 

This was an excellent read. I really like that MLB is taking the initiative and providing these interesting metrics to the public along with the explanation, bridging the gap between the uninformed fan with less publicly available data and the top tier analytical front offices.

[Ex Player]

IMO these are the only possible motives:

 

1. Domestic dispute or some kind of love triangle (most likely)

 

This isn't Facebook or the Sportsnet comment section. This board typically likes to discuss facts. You, randomly posting lists of ******** motives is pointless and stupid. That isn't what this board is for

Tell me something please, how stupid do you feel right now??

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-police-believe-drug-lord-192521595.html

 

At least one outlet — the Daily Mail, citing three sources with Dominican Republic law enforcement — is reporting that Ortiz was shot by gunmen hired by a drug lord who thought Ortiz was having an affair with his wife