Jays interested in Brett Lawrie

[Jimcanuck]

ya i'm not sure what lawrie will bring is worth the immature drama s***

 

in other words don't fill No's 23,24,25 on the roster with s*** disturber(s), no need to subject JD, JB, AS to that crap

[Brownie19]

in other words don't fill No's 23,24,25 on the roster with s*** disturber(s), no need to subject JD, JB, AS to that crap

 

Let's fill them with the Omar Vizquel and Mark DeRosa's of the world instead - great call.

 

I seem to remember a pile of people on here who were pissed we let Valencia go...

[AdamGreenwood]

I can't spell it out for you, it's not worth the effort. Maybe someone else can help you take the (4 teams in 7 years, fight with coaches, hitting umpires, team mates who can't stand him, released and unsigned, not on Team Canada) blinders off. Pompey is trying to make a team. Morneau is looking for a job. Etc.

 

I get that you like him but he is a douche whose personality disrupts club houses. Why would you risk that idiot on a playoff team?

 

Don't waste your time. Most of these people judge how good a team works together by adding up the fWAR.

[BTS]

Remember the time that the Jays were down 2 in the 9th, and Lawrie blew up at Lind for not tagging from 3rd to score on a shallow flyball from Lawrie? Need dem RBIs. Playing with someone like that would suck.

[Brownie19]

Remember the time that the Jays were down 2 in the 9th, and Lawrie blew up at Lind for not tagging from 3rd to score on a shallow flyball from Lawrie? Need dem RBIs. Playing with someone like that would suck.

 

I'm not saying he has...but most people do mature and grow up as they age.

 

I imagine getting cut from a team may change his perspective a bit.

[intentional wok]

I'm not saying he has...but most people do mature and grow up as they age.

 

I imagine getting cut from a team may change his perspective a bit.

 

-Getting the superstar treatment in your debut city

-Seeing people's patience for you decline over three years

-Getting traded away from that city as a 1/4 package for a world class superstar and being promptly forgotten

-Having a bad year with your new club, then getting traded to another club for peanuts before the next season

-Having an injury-riddled year with this third club

-Getting released in ST the following year

 

Might be time for him to dial back the act at this point.

[AdamGreenwood]

Remember the time that the Jays were down 2 in the 9th, and Lawrie blew up at Lind for not tagging from 3rd to score on a shallow flyball from Lawrie? Need dem RBIs. Playing with someone like that would suck.

 

Yeah, that was when I soured on Lawrie.

 

I'm still not sure if he was too stupid to realize why that extra run was meaningless, or too selfish to care about putting the team's chance of winning over his own personal statistics. Doesn't look good for him either way.

[Terminator]

Remember the time that the Jays were down 2 in the 9th, and Lawrie blew up at Lind for not tagging from 3rd to score on a shallow flyball from Lawrie? Need dem RBIs. Playing with someone like that would suck.

 

I remember that. Gibby blew up on him in the dugout too. After the game he gave his explanation and I legitimately felt like he thought that would have helped them win more than he was complaining about losing the RBI. But that might be just as bad because it shows he's an idiot who doesn't understand simple situational baseball.

[FrozenRopes]

Munenori is a better option at this point. Could probably get him from the Cubs for any player that isn't Brett Lawrie

[Orgfiller]

Munenori is a better option at this point. Could probably get him from the Cubs for any player that isn't Brett Lawrie

 

Ew gross. I'd take Brett Lawrie and all of his issues over Kawasaki every day of the week. We already have multiple players who are just as good and better than the latter, with Lawrie at least you're hoping something clicks and his talent shows, there is zero upside to Kawasaki other than getting dem casuals.

[Dick_Pole]

I remember that. Gibby blew up on him in the dugout too. After the game he gave his explanation and I legitimately felt like he thought that would have helped them win more than he was complaining about losing the RBI. But that might be just as bad because it shows he's an idiot who doesn't understand simple situational baseball.

 

Good thing there are coaches and a manager to do all the thinking for him. Base running is the only time where he might have to do some solo brain thinking and that's one area of his game which hasn't declined over the last two years.

[Dick_Pole]

Also, who hasn't been on Lind's case for being a lazy f***?

 

The three stooges Rasmus, Lind and Lawrie are all gone. If you bring just one of them back it shouldn't be that damaging to the clubhouse.

[Dick_Pole]

Team Canada banned Lawrie because he's a d-bag.

 

The d stands for dominant.

[fatcowxlive]

Every one of these people trashing Lawrie over the past two pages would run over their grandmother to have a life like his. A bunch of salty motherf***ers who can't stand Lawrie because he reminds of them all of the guys who bullied the s*** out of them at school while they were poindexters (or still are in some cases).

 

Absolutely nothing wrong with having Lawrie on this team. The comparison to Barney is laughably inadequate. Goins or Smoak are the ones he would battle on the depth chart.

 

Did you have issues going through high school or something? I'm pretty sure the people against this aren't taking about how he lives life outside the field but his bad rep in both Toronto and Oakland's dugouts...

 

Aside from this, personally, I'd rather replace Smoak with Tellez if worst comes to worse. If we can pen Lawrie to a minor league deal then I'd be up for it - he's far away from the Blue Jays clubhouse in Buffalo and if by complete surprise he tears the cover off the wall, and we have an injury, I wouldn't mind him as a short term solution. You can never say no to any depth. But if he wants $1M guaranteed then we shouldn't pen him, people complain about giving Smoak a small 3M so why would it be a good idea to give Lawrie (given his history which should factor in the price) a million?

[Brownie19]

Munenori is a better option at this point. Could probably get him from the Cubs for any player that isn't Brett Lawrie

 

yikes - that's account deleting material right there.

[intrigid]

Kawasaki has a DAR of +1.0 per season. Fangraphs doesn't account for this.

[Terminator]

Good thing there are coaches and a manager to do all the thinking for him. Base running is the only time where he might have to do some solo brain thinking and that's one area of his game which hasn't declined over the last two years.

 

I agree. I would take him. I think any clubhouse issues are overblown, first of all because the game doesn't rely much on teamwork since it's based upon individual outcomes. Second, clubhouse issues are almost always overrated among fans simply because we don't know hardly anything about what goes on in said clubhouse.

[FrozenRopes]

I agree. I would take him. I think any clubhouse issues are overblown, first of all because the game doesn't rely much on teamwork since it's based upon individual outcomes. Second, clubhouse issues are almost always overrated among fans simply because we don't know hardly anything about what goes on in said clubhouse.

 

Clubhouse attitude goes a long way.

[Tha dogg]

Clubhouse attitude goes a long way.

This guy gets it. We need more asians on the blue jays.

[FrozenRopes]

Sounds like Brett is holding off signing with a team per his agent. Always a good idea to take time away from the game as an overrated player to ensure future work. The truth? No one has an injured infielder without a better option in the system right now. Hard pass by the Jays is likely a good call.

[Gary]

My sources tell me the Jays offered Lawrie a minor league deal, but Lawrie is holding out for a guaranteed major league contract.

[FrozenRopes]

My sources tell me the Jays offered Lawrie a minor league deal, but Lawrie is holding out for a guaranteed major league contract.

 

My sources tell me this is false.

[Qwerty]

My sources tell me this is false.

 

Gary is definitely Barry Davis, so it's possible. Whether or not Barry Davis actually has "sources" is an entirely different story.

[Gary]

Gary is definitely Barry Davis.

 

I only wish I was that talented.

[Laika]

Sounds like Brett is holding off signing with a team per his agent. Always a good idea to take time away from the game as an overrated player to ensure future work. The truth? No one has an injured infielder without a better option in the system right now. Hard pass by the Jays is likely a good call.

 

Yeah it makes no sense for him to want to rehab before signing. A team that wants to sign him for his upside would be more than happy to give him ample recovery time, and staff support for his recovery. His injury is not the type that any team would care about - it's not like he will have to demonstrate that he's healthy in order to get an MLB contract. His statement that he'll take time off to get healthy before signing doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, unless his injury is significantly worse than is being let on.

 

However, you're definitely wrong about the bolded statement. There are MLB teams with infield holes that Brett Lawrie could slide into and represent a projected improvement upon. Whether the teams are disinterested for reasons not related to talent is another matter.

[justafan]

Giving Smoak $3m was ridiculous. Never figured that out.

 

Did you have issues going through high school or something? I'm pretty sure the people against this aren't taking about how he lives life outside the field but his bad rep in both Toronto and Oakland's dugouts...

 

Aside from this, personally, I'd rather replace Smoak with Tellez if worst comes to worse. If we can pen Lawrie to a minor league deal then I'd be up for it - he's far away from the Blue Jays clubhouse in Buffalo and if by complete surprise he tears the cover off the wall, and we have an injury, I wouldn't mind him as a short term solution. You can never say no to any depth. But if he wants $1M guaranteed then we shouldn't pen him, people complain about giving Smoak a small 3M so why would it be a good idea to give Lawrie (given his history which should factor in the price) a million?