MLB Considering allowing automatic intentional walks

[L54]

Then all you're arguing is that the automatic walk is a less bad idea. You're still not justifying it.

 

And in order for a walk to count, you actually have to physically throw the pitch 4 times. So by your logic, an automatic walk would actually become a delay-of-game.

 

It always feels funny when your own argument is used against you, doesn't it?

 

How in the f*** does an automatic walk become a delay of game?

 

Automatic walks and returning to the dugout after a home run are not even even in the same realm of baseball discussion. Which is what I am arguing. Plus, how many homeruns are no doubters? I'd wager that to be about 25%.

[intentional wok]

I think you're a little bias on this subject...

 

If this happens, I'll change my username!

 

Stakes!

[KingKat]

If this happens, I'll change my username!

 

Stakes!

 

Willing to wok the wok. I like it.

[Dr Negative]

Have a cap on pitching coach visits during the game please.

[fatcowxlive]

f*** Manfried. The 1 minute you save on something that happens once every maybe 30-40 gamedays won't increase youth participation. How about he actually looks at other ways to involve kids rather than cut out parts of the game that aren't broken and won't affect anything

[fatcowxlive]

The relief pitcher changes were discussed previously here: http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/6505-Manfred-looking-at-relief-pitcher-limits-in-game

 

BTS and Cyborg made a good point about limiting the amount of warmup pitches and not having commercial breaks for pitching changes.

 

The answer is never to cut advertising

[intrigid]

How in the f*** does an automatic walk become a delay of game?

 

Read my comments again. I've done all I can do. I can only explain the concept to you. I can't understand it for you.

[burlingtonbandit]

The review process is the one that needs to be fixed. Instead of having the umpires waddle over to the headset, have a designated guy there to talk to the people in NY and just relay the call.

 

Also no waiting around to see if the manager wants to challenge the call or not. Have it like the NFL where they have to make a split decision whether they want to challenge or not.

[Boxcar]

Barry Bonds had 120 IBB's in 2004. Every single one of them was the correct move.

 

I'm sure you've done some real in depth analysis to confirm this.

 

Also, Barry Bonds doesn't play anymore and was maybe the greatest hitter to ever play.

[Jonn]

What is with Manfred and his excessive need to speed up the game.

[THANOS]

He should just simply limit coaching/catcher mound visits, remove the manager waddle for pitching changes and RP mound warm-up pitches unless an injury happens to the current pitcher and the RP comes out cold, and add time-limits between pitches thrown and/or batters box step-outs.

[FrozenRopes]

There would never be an IBB then. Pitchers would simply throw 4 junk pitches for a regular BB.

 

Perfect

[Jonn]

He should just simply limit coaching/catcher mound visits, remove the manager waddle for pitching changes and RP mound warm-up pitches unless an injury happens to the current pitcher and the RP comes out cold, and add time-limits between pitches thrown and/or batters box step-outs.

 

This all would help a lot more than the s*** they are suggesting.

[AdamGreenwood]

There would never be an IBB then. Pitchers would simply throw 4 junk pitches for a regular BB.

 

Mixed slowpitch has already dealt with this. You need to throw one strike or it's considered an intentional walk - even if it's just really bad control.

The rule could be, if first base is open, and a player gets four balls, and no strikes, they are awarded second base.

 

Seems kind of a shame that one of the greatest hitters ever got 20% of his AB taken away from him because he was too good.

[Jimcanuck]

He should just simply limit coaching/catcher mound visits, remove the manager waddle for pitching changes and RP mound warm-up pitches unless an injury happens to the current pitcher and the RP comes out cold, and add time-limits between pitches thrown and/or batters box step-outs.

 

This. Hitters and pitchers should be on a strict time limit between the last pitch and being ready for the next one. Use a 3 strikes and you're ejected approach to enforce it.

 

The pitchers and hitters monkeying around is where the real delay is.

[Jimcanuck]

This seems like as good a place as any to float my proposed plan for a robo-ump/real umpire hybrid.

 

As each pitch passes by the plate, it's categorized as a strike or ball. The umpire has a controller in his pocket with one button for strike and one for ball (HAH! But we're being serious.)

 

If his judgement of the pitch is more than a set amount (an inch?) from the edge of the plate he receives a buzz from the device indicating he's incorrect, and to call it the opposite.

 

This idea would have to be refined by people far smarter than I, but you get the gist of it.

 

There's still a human element but the particularly egregious calls are removed.

 

Just equip them with a helmet and a VR screen where pitch tracker will show up immediately after the pitch.

[Laika]

This seems like as good a place as any to float my proposed plan for a robo-ump/real umpire hybrid.

 

As each pitch passes by the plate, it's categorized as a strike or ball. The umpire has a controller in his pocket with one button for strike and one for ball (HAH! But we're being serious.)

 

If his judgement of the pitch is more than a set amount (an inch?) from the edge of the plate he receives a buzz from the device indicating he's incorrect, and to call it the opposite.

 

This idea would have to be refined by people far smarter than I, but you get the gist of it.

 

There's still a human element but the particularly egregious calls are removed.

 

Even better - umps wear a shock collar. The shock intensity is based on the total error in inches.

[o2cui2i]

how about we just turn the whole game into an app and the managers can play out the whole game on their laptops and no one has to ever watch baseball again?

 

 

what a completely stupid idea that shows that the commissioner has run out of ideas.

 

just play the game

[o2cui2i]

He should just simply limit coaching/catcher mound visits, remove the manager waddle for pitching changes and RP mound warm-up pitches unless an injury happens to the current pitcher and the RP comes out cold, and add time-limits between pitches thrown and/or batters box step-outs.

 

catcher visits to the mound are one of the things that just have to be eliminated. if they are too stupid to remember the signs that's their problem. every time the catcher steps beyond home plate while it's a ball.

 

then keep the time limit that is already there.

 

fines to hitters was a stupid idea. they don't care about money. just call a strike if the hitter isn't in the box ready and call a ball if the pitcher or catcher are wasting time. games will move along a lot faster.

[Jimcanuck]

i'm sure theres a counter argument behind closed doors that longer games = more beer sales + more advert $$

[burlingtonbandit]

i'm sure theres a counter argument behind closed doors that longer games = more beer sales + more advert $$

 

Thats what I was thinking for the pitching changes, since the more pitching changes the more TV ad $.

[Maahfaace]

I'm sure you've done some real in depth analysis to confirm this.

 

Also, Barry Bonds doesn't play anymore and was maybe the greatest hitter to ever play.

 

And it just reaffirms the "rarely" in your original statement.

[intentional wok]

Willing to wok the wok. I like it.

 

I'll be taking suggestions from the peanut gallery too.

[BlueJayWay]

I'm all for speeding up the game, but this particular change just seems pointless. There aren't enough IBB for this to matter. Maybe they'll take home trots away too *barf*

 

It feels like MLB isn't willing to enforce the things that really would help pace, so they came up with this rather pointless thing just to make it seem like they're doing something.

[CHRIS]

I'm all for speeding up the game, but this particular change just seems pointless. There aren't enough IBB for this to matter.

 

Yes, this doesn't make much sense from a speeding up the game perspective.

 

I haven't read this whole thread, but it seems to me like enforcing the rules with respect to time between pitches and guys leaving the batter's box would be more effective.

[Zaun of the Dead]

if you want to automate baseball, I have two words for ya

 

robot umps

[Boxcar]

I'd be suddenly on board with Joe West retaining his job.

 

He's pretty well insulated, though. Dunno if the shock would penetrate his 5 chins.

[polar bear]

i'm sure theres a counter argument behind closed doors that longer games = more beer sales + more advert $$

 

In an nutshell.

[Captain Adama]

He's pretty well insulated, though. Dunno if the shock would penetrate his 5 chins.

 

All the sweat getting into those crevices will provide more than enough conductibility I'd wager.

[fatcowxlive]

if you want to automate baseball, I have two words for ya

 

robot umps

 

Seriously. You'll save more time buy cutting out any questionable calls that will lead to a manager storming on the field and getting tossed than automating intentional walks.

 

Also on a side note, how come he still hasn't implemented the idea that managers have like a 5 second window from dead ball to call for a review? Managers these days take 30-60 seconds interacting with the clubhouse to decide whether or not to review a call