Around Baseball 2017

[Terminator]

You're making a lot of assumptions. Players with talent + great personalities fail all the time.

 

Brett Lawrie is a douche but his failures at the MLB level might not have anything to do with his focus or passion. IMO he has just been weirdly indoctrinated by traditional baseball coaching that has morphed him into a skinny ground ball slapper and not the beefy slugger he should have been.

 

It was so ridiculous to watch him slam the ball in to the ground time after time and then hustle down the line to beat it out like he was Ichiro or something.

[Brownie19]

You're making a lot of assumptions. Players with talent + great personalities fail all the time.

 

Brett Lawrie is a douche but his failures at the MLB level might not have anything to do with his focus or passion. IMO he has just been weirdly indoctrinated by traditional baseball coaching that has morphed him into a skinny ground ball slapper and not the beefy slugger he should have been.

 

Fair enough. All I'm saying is he should be working with a swing coach to change his swing path. He clearly is a very athletic, talented, hard working guy. Hitting is clearly his biggest flaw right now and he's still young enough to make changes and enjoy a successful career. There are numerous stories out there of guys who making fundamental changes to their swing and completely turn their careers around (Donaldson, Zobrist, JD Martinez, Marlon Byrd, etc.). I acknowledge that even with a big swing overhaul, he still may fail - but for someone with that talent, it's worth a try....unless of course he wants to prioritize himself and his family and pursue his career as a full time douche bag who parades his life on twitter because he craves attention.

[burlingtonbandit]

Fair enough. All I'm saying is he should be working with a swing coach to change his swing path. He clearly is a very athletic, talented, hard working guy. Hitting is clearly his biggest flaw right now and he's still young enough to make changes and enjoy a successful career. There are numerous stories out there of guys who making fundamental changes to their swing and completely turn their careers around (Donaldson, Zobrist, JD Martinez, Marlon Byrd, etc.). I acknowledge that even with a big swing overhaul, he still may fail - but for someone with that talent, it's worth a try....unless of course he wants to prioritize himself and his family and pursue his career as a full time douche bag who parades his life on twitter because he craves attention.

 

Even if he did hire a swing coach and changed his swing he still probably won't succeed. Pillar and Goins worked with Bobby Tewksbary last offseason and they didn't get any better.

 

Anyways it should be the organizations themselves that hire better f***ing coaches. Why should a player have to go out and hire his own swing coach while the org. employs coaches teaching the wrong technique?

 

Edit: Even Lawrie last year turned 10% of his contact from groundballs to flyballs and still wasn't good.

[Governator]

That video is how I envision him inside a clubhouse before every game and after every win.

[Brownie19]

Even if he did hire a swing coach and changed his swing he still probably won't succeed. Pillar and Goins worked with Bobby Tewksbary last offseason and they didn't get any better.

 

Anyways it should be the organizations themselves that hire better f***ing coaches. Why should a player have to go out and hire his own swing coach while the org. employs coaches teaching the wrong technique?

 

Edit: Even Lawrie last year turned 10% of his contact from groundballs to flyballs and still wasn't good.

 

Do you want welfare to pay for Lawrie's hitting coach right now???

[burlingtonbandit]

Do you want welfare to pay for Lawrie's hitting coach right now???

 

wat?

 

Its in a team's best interest to have the best coaches teaching their players. Nothing to do about money.

[Laika]

Fair enough. All I'm saying is he should be working with a swing coach to change his swing path.

 

You could argue that he needs to STOP listening to coaches.

 

When he first came up he had a 45% FB rate and he hit a ton of dingers. Ever since, he has been like a 33% FB guy who just beats the ball into the ground. And he's been bad.

Every year, he probably has listened to his hitting coaches, done his cage work, his BP work, focused on hitting the ball up the middle like everyone tells him, and it's made him worse.

 

It's time for Brett Lawrie to go back to when he was 21 years old. He needs to get LESS mature. He needs to get MORE self-confidence, if that's possible. f*** coaches. EMBRACE THE STUPID.

[G-Snarls]

[P2F]

Jhoulys Chacin has been tapped to start opening day for the Padres, followed by Clayton Richard and Jered Weaver.

 

Holy f***.

[Laika]

Jhoulys Chacin has been tapped to start opening day for the Padres, followed by Clayton Richard and Jered Weaver.

 

Holy f***.

 

Don't forget about Jarred Cosart (more walks than strikeouts) and Trevor Cahill (4 starts in the last two season).

 

Is this the most obvious example of tanking we've seen in recent history? Is there a Bryce Harper type in the draft in 2018?

[Dr. Dinger]

 

Not surprising, he probably throws like a doofus.

[Brownie19]

You could argue that he needs to STOP listening to coaches.

 

When he first came up he had a 45% FB rate and he hit a ton of dingers. Ever since, he has been like a 33% FB guy who just beats the ball into the ground. And he's been bad.

Every year, he probably has listened to his hitting coaches, done his cage work, his BP work, focused on hitting the ball up the middle like everyone tells him, and it's made him worse.

 

It's time for Brett Lawrie to go back to when he was 21 years old. He needs to get LESS mature. He needs to get MORE self-confidence, if that's possible. f*** coaches. EMBRACE THE STUPID.

 

Fair enough. Finding the right swing coach might also do the trick.

 

Obviously he shouldn't listen to the coach who told him to lose 30lbs and to start looking like a vampire.

[Terminator]

Not surprising, he probably throws like a doofus.

 

He was actually pretty good at baseball in his day. Scouted by a couple of pro teams. He's old and fat now so probably wouldn't be great though.

[Laika]

He was actually pretty good at baseball in his day. Scouted by a couple of pro teams. He's old and fat now so probably wouldn't be great though.

 

Donald Trump was athletic? I guess he wasn't always this shape

[Sammy225]

Not surprising, he probably throws like a doofus.

 

Likely something to do with the State voting 95% for the other person lol

[Terminator]

Donald Trump was athletic? I guess he wasn't always this shape

 

He's still a good golfer and used to be REALLY good. But yeah in high school he was really good at baseball, football and soccer - or so his old teammates and coaches say. Was supposedly scouted by the Phillies and Red Sox in baseball.

[Dick_Pole]

I'd love to see all ya'll's hero Bernie Sanders trudge out there lob one 40 feet underhand then wheeze his last breathe from a heart attack. Old people are old no matter their political leaning. They don't build robust Presidents like Bush Jr. anymore.

[Stangstag]

I'd love to see all ya'll's hero Bernie Sanders trudge out there lob one 40 feet underhand then wheeze his last breathe from a heart attack. Old people are old no matter their political leaning. They don't build robust Presidents like Bush Jr. anymore.

 

The difference is that Trump would whine about it on twitter after he bounced the throw.

[Laika]

"He was just the best, a good athlete, a great athlete," Levine told Business Insider. "He could have probably played pro ball as a pitcher. I think he threw 80 miles an hour. I was the catcher. He made my hand black and blue every day . . . Could he play football? Could he play soccer? He could do anything he wanted. He was physically and mentally gifted."

Source: internet

[Brownie19]

 

pfff. Can he do this?

 

http://i.imgur.com/nkWpjJl.gif

[Brownie19]

Trump couldn't be any worse than 50 Cent

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83FHj53QBHY

[Terminator]

Trump couldn't be any worse than 50 Cent

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83FHj53QBHY

 

That was so bad it was remarkable. Obama throwing like a girl while wearing mom jeans was pretty bad as well.

[BTS]

George Dubya has the GOAT first pitch. Fastball for a strike like a real American.

[Terminator]

George Dubya has the GOAT first pitch. Fastball for a strike like a real American.

 

Lol

 

I remember a blind kid threw a strike once. Colin Kapernick missed the zone but his was like 90+ mph. I think he pitched in college. Most of them are pretty bad though.

[Dr. Dinger]

George Dubya has the GOAT first pitch. Fastball for a strike like a real American.

 

That was a HELL of a pitch.

[Sammy225]

O's Pick up Alec Asher to add to their scrap heap of Starting Pitching.

[burlingtonbandit]

You could argue that he needs to STOP listening to coaches.

 

When he first came up he had a 45% FB rate and he hit a ton of dingers. Ever since, he has been like a 33% FB guy who just beats the ball into the ground. And he's been bad.

Every year, he probably has listened to his hitting coaches, done his cage work, his BP work, focused on hitting the ball up the middle like everyone tells him, and it's made him worse.

 

It's time for Brett Lawrie to go back to when he was 21 years old. He needs to get LESS mature. He needs to get MORE self-confidence, if that's possible. f*** coaches. EMBRACE THE STUPID.

 

Batted profile was basically the same last year as it was in 2011 in terms of LD/GB/FB, LF/CF/RF and hard hit %. Its the BB/K that have gone to s***.

[L54]

He literally says in the video that he recorded this AFTER he was done his workouts no doubt as a pre-emptive answer to those who s*** on any athlete who posts themselves having (gasp) non work related fun on the Internet. I really regret posting the video. I should have guessed it would trigger a bunch of smug indignation (not a dig at you specifically).

 

My comment was tongue in cheek. I thought my tbh was a good indication.

 

I wonder if he realizes that "the hardest time of his existence" is the product of being a s***** teammate and someone people generally don't like being around? Hmmmm

[L54]

George Dubya has the GOAT first pitch. Fastball for a strike like a real American.

 

Nothin more American than a good ol country fastball for strike one.

[P2F]

Don't forget about Jarred Cosart (more walks than strikeouts) and Trevor Cahill (4 starts in the last two season).

Is this the most obvious example of tanking we've seen in recent history? Is there a Bryce Harper type in the draft in 2018?

It has to be.

 

There's a real chance for this rotation to be historically bad. Their best starter left over from last season, Luis Perdomo, probably starts in the minors now that he doesn't have to be with the Padres all season - the entire rotation will be without a glimmer of hope. Imagine just how futile Chacin, Richard, Weaver, and likely Cosart and Cahill could be.

 

I wonder if there's someone they really like in 2018. Maybe Seth Beer.