The Jose Bautista Thread

[agrushcow]

Wat.

 

Lets not pretend that money wasn't the #1 deciding factor.

 

Come on.

[GD]

Wat.

 

Lets not pretend that money wasn't the #1 deciding factor.

 

You're on a cold streak

[RealAccountant]

I heard Morales and Pearce hate the front office, too.

 

I'm sure Morales had multiple multi year offers just look at the deals superior hitters to him like Beltran and Holliday got

 

Lmao Morales was probably shocked as f*** at the offer and signed right away

[Laika]

got heeeem

[Driveof85]

No joke, I actually know someone who knows Dexter Fowler's barber and he said this was a relevant factor. Stro and Bautista talked to Dex at the white party they were all at a week ago and the feeling Dex got was that Toronto's front office is pretty cold and ambivalent about the players. That's just what I heard through the grape vine.

That's awesome. I knew it had to be a factor. They do come across as cold and ambivalent. They think they can win a World Series by reading a few Stephen Covey books. They will run this franchise into the ground.

[Stangstag]

got heeeem

 

You were lying?

[Laika]

That's awesome. I knew it had to be a factor. They do come across as cold and ambivalent. They think they can win a World Series by reading a few Stephen Covey books. They will run this franchise into the ground.

 

Shapiro actually hangs a Covey quote in his office. Some line about being a win/win "altrupeneur" and "talking straight, building trust, and overdelivering"..... I can't remember exactly what the line is. No jokes.

[Driveof85]

No, like Han Solo said, "It's true...all of it."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy2YQWsXEAAkZK2.jpg:large

[Governator]

There's some second level trolling going on in here.

[metafour]

No joke, I actually know someone who knows Dexter Fowler's barber and he said this was a relevant factor. Stro and Bautista talked to Dex at the white party they were all at a week ago and the feeling Dex got was that Toronto's front office is pretty cold and ambivalent about the players. That's just what I heard through the grape vine.

 

Cool story bro; except the part wherein Fowler actually had "issues" with the Cardinals until they gave him an assload of money. IE: None of this was a "factor" at all. He signed with the team that gave him way more money than any other, just like he would have signed here had we given him the most money. Like, you realize that he signed with the franchise that told Albert Pujols "thanks bro, cya later" while he was still in his actual perceived prime LOL.

[Abomination]

There's some second level trolling going on in here.

 

Harsh, it's reeling people in better than that.

[Governator]

Cool story bro; except the part wherein Fowler actually had "issues" with the Cardinals until they gave him an assload of money. IE: None of this was a "factor" at all. He signed with the team that gave him way more money than any other, just like he would have signed here had we given him the most money. Like, you realize that he signed with the franchise that told Albert Pujols "thanks bro, cya later" while he was still in his actual perceived prime LOL.

 

hook, line, and sinker

[Candy Maldonado]

sometimes I feel dumb on this board but this isn't one of those times

[Laika]

Cool story bro; except the part wherein Fowler actually had "issues" with the Cardinals until they gave him an assload of money. IE: None of this was a "factor" at all. He signed with the team that gave him way more money than any other, just like he would have signed here had we given him the most money. Like, you realize that he signed with the franchise that told Albert Pujols "thanks bro, cya later" while he was still in his actual perceived prime LOL.

 

I have it on good authority that he had issues with both teams. Money talked but who's to say how much it would have talked if he was actually attracted to the culture of the Blue Jays? The culture turned him off so all that was left to consider was the money.

 

I think the bigger issue here is that Stroman is going negative PR on the sly for Toronto. Trade him to Colorado before this gets any worse.

[TorontonianJD]

Interesting if Stroman did say that. We'll never know for sure. Wonder what JD thinks of this regime?

 

OT but according to this Tulo has bought a home in Toronto:

 

http://m.edmontonsun.com/2016/12/10/simmons-says-puzzling-start-to-important-blue-jays-off-season

[Driveof85]

Well, I guess Stro calls it like he sees it. I'm also interested to know what JD and TT think of this offseason so far. Was there ever any issue with EE's character or work ethic in the clubhouse?

[CrackerJack]

Well, I guess Stro calls it like he sees it. I'm also interested to know what JD and TT think of this offseason so far. Was there ever any issue with EE's character or work ethic in the clubhouse?

 

Edwin winning the team-polled MVP award with 90% of the vote might suggest he's also a popular and respected hombre in the clubhouse.

[Laika]

Well, I guess Stro calls it like he sees it. I'm also interested to know what JD and TT think of this offseason so far. Was there ever any issue with EE's character or work ethic in the clubhouse?

 

EE shed the character issues years ago. No concerns there.

 

The players are still confident in the team. From what I gather though (I know a couple of lower level employees so take this FWIW) some of the players can't help but compare this front office to AA's team. The Shatkins group, to be blunt, is less player friendly. There's a lot of new-age stuff like mental coaches etc. that make certain players roll their eyes. AA had also built a lot of trust that he would do whatever it took to win in any given season and players don't feel the same way about Shapiro and Atkins. I heard that Jose has essentially NO interest in coming back to Toronto largely because of the new culture. You'll notice that Jose's agent is actually reaching out to other teams like Boston and Baltimore - he's desperate to get out of town.

Again, take this all FWIW which shouldn't be much. Just rumours.

[saskjayfan]

EE shed the character issues years ago. No concerns there.

 

The players are still confident in the team. From what I gather though (I know a couple of lower level employees so take this FWIW) some of the players can't help but compare this front office to AA's team. The Shatkins group, to be blunt, is less player friendly. There's a lot of new-age stuff like mental coaches etc. that make certain players roll their eyes. AA had also built a lot of trust that he would do whatever it took to win in any given season and players don't feel the same way about Shapiro and Atkins. I heard that Jose has essentially NO interest in coming back to Toronto largely because of the new culture. You'll notice that Jose's agent is actually reaching out to other teams like Boston and Baltimore - he's desperate to get out of town.

Again, take this all FWIW which shouldn't be much. Just rumours.

 

Where exactly did you hear that Jose has no desire to come back to Toronto? You can't just make that sort of statement without a credible source.

[FrozenRopes]

Hey guys, if any of you believe this sister's friends barber BS you need to check that you aren't being taken advantage of everywhere you go everyday, because it's possible. Fowler was given a lot of money by a good team and he took it.

[wamco]

Higher density of barber shops in east St. Louis 4 sho.

[Boxcar]

got heeeem

 

B- trolling

[george09]

EE shed the character issues years ago. No concerns there.

 

The players are still confident in the team. From what I gather though (I know a couple of lower level employees so take this FWIW) some of the players can't help but compare this front office to AA's team. The Shatkins group, to be blunt, is less player friendly. There's a lot of new-age stuff like mental coaches etc. that make certain players roll their eyes. AA had also built a lot of trust that he would do whatever it took to win in any given season and players don't feel the same way about Shapiro and Atkins. I heard that Jose has essentially NO interest in coming back to Toronto largely because of the new culture. You'll notice that Jose's agent is actually reaching out to other teams like Boston and Baltimore - he's desperate to get out of town.

Again, take this all FWIW which shouldn't be much. Just rumours.

 

 

Still don't know if you're trolling or not, if so that's some A+ trolling.

[Laika]

B- trolling

 

Always b trolling? true.

[BTS]

Christ almighty some of the posters on this forum are retarded

[Maahfaace]

Christ almighty some of the posters on this forum are retarded

 

Some?

[burlingtonbandit]

Interesting if Stroman did say that. We'll never know for sure. Wonder what JD thinks of this regime?

 

OT but according to this Tulo has bought a home in Toronto:

 

http://m.edmontonsun.com/2016/12/10/simmons-says-puzzling-start-to-important-blue-jays-off-season

 

Next time just post the quote because I had to read half of a Simmons article to get there, time I will never get back into my life..

 

Also whats this about Joey Votto not playing for Canada at the WBC? I thought he was confirmed to playing?

[bzapple]

Where exactly did you hear that Jose has no desire to come back to Toronto? You can't just make that sort of statement without a credible source.

 

This is a message board, not an official news source. People can say whatever they want. And he said where he got his sources, and that the rumours probably aren't worth that much. Are you honestly this dense?

[Boxcar]

Christ almighty some of the posters on this forum are retarded

 

It's like fishing with dynamite.

[Boxcar]

This is a message board, not an official news source. People can say whatever they want. And he said where he got his sources, and that the rumours probably aren't worth that much. Are you honestly this dense?

 

+ he's full of s***