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He is so damn polarizing. lol

 

I love him. The guy makes so many headlines, both good and bad. Good- Orioles try beaning him and miss. He hits a homer that same AB and proceeds to tell Adam Jones to f*** off the next half inning. Bad- Goes public with his contract negotiations. For a league that lacks star power Bautista is one of the few players who can make headlines so frequently. And he makes them in the US even, I've never seen a Jays player do that.

 

Very Bad - Injures his arm permanently by trying to throw out Delmon Young at 1B in a situation where the score doesn't warrant it

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I might have to change the title back to The Jose Bautista Thread

 

Nooo keep it like this, I had no idea about a 3 year/$50M offer to Bautista, more informative than just "JB Thread" lol

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Very Bad - Injures his arm permanently by trying to throw out Delmon Young at 1B in a situation where the score doesn't warrant it

 

That one emotional decision cost him potentially tens of millions of dollars.

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Staring to think this Shatkins FO crew is a Lil Helter Skelter and big on Smoke n Mirror's... Cause this ain't the offseason they spoke of or said like there plans were when it began!

 

Bait n switch, cheaper! Better? Not sure. Hmmmmmmm

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Yeah, I'd be totally okay with this. Health and age are concerns but if they can rotate him through 1B/DH and the occasional corner OF start, I can see him remaining productive into his late 30s. Everyone always says he has "old player skills". Plus, I'd like to see the FO show some solidarity by committing to a franchise icon. I understand a lot of posters here aren't interested in that narrative, but I think there is something to be said for showing loyalty and appeasing the fanbase (to a certain extent).
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Yeah, I'd be totally okay with this. Health and age are concerns but if they can rotate him through 1B/DH and the occasional corner OF start, I can see him remaining productive into his late 30s. Everyone always says he has "old player skills". Plus, I'd like to see the FO show some solidarity by committing to a franchise icon. I understand a lot of posters here aren't interested in that narrative, but I think there is something to be said for showing loyalty and appeasing the fanbase (to a certain extent).

 

Holy crap! I feel like I haven't seen your name in ages lol long time!!

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Nooo keep it like this, I had no idea about a 3 year/$50M offer to Bautista, more informative than just "JB Thread" lol

 

The Debate rages on ... Good Batz vs Bad Batz ... Forevermore! Bitter and twisted as it is... Logic will not win here today!

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Could have had Edwin for 3/60......don't like this

 

Actually Edwin could have had US for 4/$80. It would suck to see him make less money than here and playing somewhere else on top of that. For him and Bautista I was hoping that if they don't come back they get paid very well

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The Debate rages on ... Good Batz vs Bad Batz ... Forevermore! Bitter and twisted as it is... Logic will not win here today!

 

 

Batz isn't a bad player though, even at his worst he's a good player.

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Could have had Edwin for 3/60......don't like this

 

Edwin hasn't signed yet. Jose hasn't signed yet. What are you basing this on?

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Holy crap! I feel like I haven't seen your name in ages lol long time!!

 

Haha, I didn't follow as much this past summer due to working non-standard hours, so naturally fell out of posting regularly. You must have slowed down your pace as well, I thought your post count would be at least 50k by now.

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I'm really warming to the idea of Jarrod Dyson. He's a very good player, and a lot of fun to watch. Might be amenable to an extension too, as he's never been a full-time player and might find guaranteed money attractive. Downside would be that Gibby will almost certainly hit him first in the order.

 

Not if we sign Fowler too!!!

 

Dyson, Pillar, Fowler would be wicked OF. That would transform the identity of this team.

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Very Bad - Injures his arm permanently by trying to throw out Delmon Young at 1B in a situation where the score doesn't warrant it

 

He hasn't been the same since. I expected to hear that he would have shoulder surgery this off season but maybe its irreparable. His arm f***ing sucked last year. It was his only plus defensive asset in the past.

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See this is where casuals are going to lose their s*** when he signs with the Indians for less than we offered. He had his opportunity to get a deal done, this FO wants to actually sign guys during these meetings and it was obvious that their spending allowance depended on Edwin's decision.
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Batz isn't a bad player though, even at his worst he's a good player.

 

This Might be True if you close your eyes while he is in the field! Lol

 

Based on the Debate here you can see Gov there's a lot to miss or not miss about him.

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Edwin hasn't signed yet. Jose hasn't signed yet. What are you basing this on?

 

Reported offers on the table to Edwin that he can't even get a 3/60 offer. If we offered that to him now he probably takes it in a heartbeat. Morales at DH and Pearce in LF.

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Every year there are rumours that an elite player won't get paid. They always get paid. Last year it was Justin Upton whose 'market collapsed' and he got 133M. Edwin is going to get paid, probably more than 80M.
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Haha, I didn't follow as much this past summer due to working non-standard hours, so naturally fell out of posting regularly. You must have slowed down your pace as well, I thought your post count would be at least 50k by now.

 

Yeah man, no kidding! Same here dude, work all year round and school during the school season gives me much less time than my old 50K days to do much of anything hahaha. Glad to see you still around and doing well!

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Every year there are rumours that an elite player won't get paid. They always get paid. Last year it was Justin Upton whose 'market collapsed' and he got 133M. Edwin is going to get paid, probably more than 80M.

 

You make a valid point. The market is still open. Give it 1-2 months and certain teams might start feeling getting boxed out and getting desperate, or maybe after a couple of 'big' trades and are willing to splash to capitalize on hype because they're "one piece" away. Still very funny to see how the agent has been drumming up the Winter Meetings and so confident to pull that 5 year 20AAV contract for Edwin and he can't even get 3 years.

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Very Bad - Injures his arm permanently by trying to throw out Delmon Young at 1B in a situation where the score doesn't warrant it

 

I honestly don't understand this. Why would a throw to first blow out his arm more than a throw to third or home?? I have to think his arm probably had some pre-existing damage and would of gone anyway in the near future, another time he made another hard throw, to third or home.

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I honestly don't understand this. Why would a throw to first blow out his arm more than a throw to third or home?? I have to think his arm probably had some pre-existing damage and would of gone anyway in the near future, another time he made another hard throw, to third or home.

 

He threw as hard as he could to prove a point.

 

It's no different than Sanchez trying to overthrow and bean a guy with a +100 mph fastball.

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Reported offers on the table to Edwin that he can't even get a 3/60 offer. If we offered that to him now he probably takes it in a heartbeat. Morales at DH and Pearce in LF.

 

Yes, but there's a difference between a report that one person tweets and a certainty. Edwin might take 3/60 in late January, not in early December.

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