How much money would you give Donaldson this offseason?

[BTS]

Assuming payroll goes to around 160M, and he's interested in tearing up the 1/17 left on his contract to talk long-term extension. Remember that he has two remaining years of team control, and is entering his age-31 season.

 

Looking at Cano's 10/240 deal entering his age-32 season, and Greinke's 6/206 entering his age-32 season, the bare minimum for JD seems to be 8/200. Probably closer to 9/250 than that though. Would you do it?

[RealAccountant]

None. I'll take his two more prime years and then let someone else pay for his past prime years

[HERPDERP]

Walk it out

[Spanky99]

Assuming payroll goes to around 160M, and he's interested in tearing up the 1/17 left on his contract to talk long-term extension. Remember that he has two remaining years of team control, and is entering his age-31 season.

 

Looking at Cano's 10/240 deal entering his age-32 season, and Greinke's 6/206 entering his age-32 season, the bare minimum for JD seems to be 8/200. Probably closer to 9/250 than that though. Would you do it?

 

Tough question can we do 4 120? I'd have to say yes. Those last 3 years or so is going to be rough, but with $ per WAR and inflation in salaries, I'd say it's worth it.

[dineke]

None. I'll take his two more prime years and then let someone else pay for his past prime years

 

Might be better to trade him for a ransom if thats the case

[HERPDERP]

Arod used to be a really good defensive 3B. You could argue that age cost him but he dropped pretty hard in defensive value. I attribute it to his hip surgeries which limited his mobility.

 

Donaldson is going to get hip surgery this offseason so you must wonder how flexible and effective he will be going forward as he ages.

[RealAccountant]

I'd seriously consider moving him now especially if I can get young MLB proven talent

[BTS]

Tough question can we do 4 120? I'd have to say yes. Those last 3 years or so is going to be rough, but with $ per WAR and inflation in salaries, I'd say it's worth it.

 

I really don't know if I'd do it or not. I have my doubts that Shatkins will see this as a wise investment.

[HERPDERP]

I'd seriously consider moving him now especially if I can get young MLB proven talent

 

You aren't going to get equal value for a guy with his many years left. No team has the capital, let alone the balls to give up an entire minor league system.

 

The best time to trade him is with 1 year left..or at the deadline of his last year.

[BTS]

You aren't going to get equal value for a guy with his many years left. No team has the capital, let alone the balls to give up an entire minor league system.

 

The best time to trade him is with 1 year left..or at the deadline of his last year.

 

He only has two years left. If the team decides not to extend him, his value only goes down from here.

[Sammy225]

Assuming payroll goes to around 160M, and he's interested in tearing up the 1/17 left on his contract to talk long-term extension. Remember that he has two remaining years of team control, and is entering his age-31 season.

 

Looking at Cano's 10/240 deal entering his age-32 season, and Greinke's 6/206 entering his age-32 season, the bare minimum for JD seems to be 8/200. Probably closer to 9/250 than that though. Would you do it?

 

Not that they will be looking to extend them and nor should they until next off season but i would say if he was on the free agent market right now he would be looking at 9/225 or something similar.... Considering he will be a free agent at 33 that changes a lot of things. Probably gets 5 years and whether his numbers stay stay at par could go down exiting his prime years.

[baseballsss]

Not that they will be looking to extend them and nor should they until next off season but i would say if he was on the free agent market right now he would be looking at 9/225 or something similar.... Considering he will be a free agent at 33 that changes a lot of things. Probably gets 5 years and whether his numbers stay stay at par could go down exiting his prime years.

 

If Edwin gets big money then JD will get more.

 

I would wait till the deadline if the Jays don't have a realistic shot then trade him if not trade him in the offseason. Hopefully Vlad learns 3B and he can be waiting in the wing in a couple of years.

[burlingtonbandit]

If they were going to sign him to a long term deal you would think they would have done it last year when they explored it. I'd do 8/200 but doubt that gets it done.

 

Smartest move IMO is to trade him next offseason or at the deadline this year if the team is out of it. Maybe throw his name out this offseason to see if someone blows you away with an offer.

[RealAccountant]

Dodgers would be a possible fit. Donaldson for Turner and Peterson

[BTS]

Dodgers would be a possible fit. Donaldson for Turner and Peterson

 

Turner is a free agent.

[RealAccountant]

Turner is a free agent.

 

No he has 1 year of control I thought

[Grant77]

Assuming payroll goes to around 160M, and he's interested in tearing up the 1/17 left on his contract to talk long-term extension. Remember that he has two remaining years of team control, and is entering his age-31 season.

 

Looking at Cano's 10/240 deal entering his age-32 season, and Greinke's 6/206 entering his age-32 season, the bare minimum for JD seems to be 8/200. Probably closer to 9/250 than that though. Would you do it?

 

The money isn't a huge deal, but I'd be really reluctant to go past 7 years for JD. I'd offer him 7/196 and if we're not close then we have the luxury of waiting another season and reassessing. Donaldson with 1 year left still gets you a pair of top 50 prospects.

[BTS]

No he has 1 year of control I thought

 

You thought wrong.

[Spanky99]

I really don't know if I'd do it or not. I have my doubts that Shatkins will see this as a wise investment.

 

It really is a tough call, that's why they get paid the big bucks. It'll certainly be interesting to follow.

[Spanky99]

You thought wrong.

 

Dogg, bro? Just IL him, it'll do you wonders.

[BTS]

The money isn't a huge deal, but I'd be really reluctant to go past 7 years for JD. I'd offer him 7/196 and if we're not close then we have the luxury of waiting another season and reassessing. Donaldson with 1 year left still gets you a pair of top 50 prospects.

 

I think that's ultimately what ends up happening. The most likely outcome is probably that he's traded a year from now.

[RealAccountant]

That makes Dodgers even better trade partners. They also have the young players that could make the deal work on our end.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Turner is a free agent.

 

 

BTS, is right!!!

 

plus as i stated earlier Turner might be my or a Dark horse pick to play 1st for the Jays as well next year!

 

what do you guys see him asking or going for pay wise?

[Olerud363]

Assuming payroll goes to around 160M, and he's interested in tearing up the 1/17 left on his contract to talk long-term extension. Remember that he has two remaining years of team control, and is entering his age-31 season.

 

Looking at Cano's 10/240 deal entering his age-32 season, and Greinke's 6/206 entering his age-32 season, the bare minimum for JD seems to be 8/200. Probably closer to 9/250 than that though. Would you do it?

 

Cano is a good comparison. Except Cano was a free agent. Currently Donaldson has 2 years control.

 

Something like 4 120, as Spanky suggested seems fair.

 

Cano - they bought 31,32,33,34,35...

 

Donaldson - we allready hav 31,32, we are buying 33,34,35...

 

So there has to be a compromise. If not it is not worth it.

[burlingtonbandit]

Cano is a good comparison. Except Cano was a free agent. Currently Donaldson has 2 years control.

 

Something like 4 120, as Spanky suggested seems fair.

 

Cano - they bought 31,32,33,34,35...

 

Donaldson - we allready hav 31,32, we are buying 33,34,35...

 

So there has to be a compromise. If not it is not worth it.

 

He's not signing for 4/$120. If he was he'd be signed by now.

[Olerud363]

BTS, is right!!!

 

plus as i stated earlier Turner might be my or a Dark horse pick to play 1st for the Jays as well next year!

 

what do you guys see him asking or going for pay wise?

 

If Turner was available for the right price I think this is a good idea, I think he has experience playing 2nd as well, make him super utility

 

Donaldson - 130 games 3rd, 20 games DH... PLEASE DO NOT BE AN ASS ABOUT THESE DAYS OFF DONALDSON... we need you strong in late September October so you can hammer the Bauers and Tomlins of the world.

 

Turner - 30 games 3rd, 30 games 2nd, x games outfield, x games 1b, x games DH

 

Would be awesome to see a super util, probably won't happen

[Olerud363]

He's not signing for 4/$120. If he was he'd be signed by now.

 

Then that's that. I'm glad we have Shapiro... he started late, and that is to bad... we got 29,30,31,32, it would be insande to pay big bucks for 33 to 40.

[Brownie19]

Is there a list (or could we make a list) of players who were signed at age 31-32 on long term deals (say 6+ years) that provided positive value to the team? I suspect Adrian Beltre did, maybe Arod? but that list has to be pretty short.

 

This seems like a move we'd do if we're on the cusp of winning the WS in 2019-2020 and we need to keep JD here to make it happen.

[RealAccountant]

4/120 😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

Donaldson is an MVP and he will make the argument he still has 8 years left. The contract would be similar to Miguel Cabrera 8/248

 

Similar age and production

[BTS]

Then that's that. I'm glad we have Shapiro... he started late, and that is to bad... we got 29,30,31,32, it would be insande to pay big bucks for 33 to 40.

 

But would it be insane to pay big bucks for 33-38? You probably only have that option by starting the contract now. Otherwise you're looking 33-39 or 33-40.