Should Osuna Start in 2017?

[DonnieBaseball]

After seeing Sanchez dominate, is Osuna next? He has multiple pitches, nerves of steel. Should the Jays try getting him 150 innings? Maybe start him for 120 innings and transition him to the bullpen to let him finish with 150 or so.

[L54]

No it will never happen.

[43211234]

No. Leave him in the bullpen.

[Atothe]

Yes

[candymartinez]

Tough question.

They should make him a starter, it's better use of his talent but they already have 5 solid starters.

Threw 83 innings this year with the playoffs, somehow increase that and prep him for a starter role for 2018 and beyond. He's still only 21 years old,

[Caper]

If I were him I would want to start. But if I did, maybe only after securing some more money. Take an offer to make 35 or 40 million untill you are 30, then you can more afford to go into the more uncharted territory of starting.

[flafson]

He should start, yes.

[Jonn]

He should probably given the chance if he wants it. Hard to ignore a 21 year old with an arm like that with 3 plus pitches who was actually working on a 4th and different wrinkles and variations throughout the season.

 

He's a special talent he just can't be ran into the ground by your manager. Gibbons could have done a much better job of managing his workload especially in back to back scenarios. At times he would get a week to 8 days off. Than pitch 5 of the next 6 nights coming in games we have had more than a 3-run lead.

[FrozenRopes]

Rotation solid. No.

[BTS]

Voted 3. He's 21, has already had TJS once, and was experiencing shoulder pain this year. He's a red flag to have a short career as is, and doubling or tripling his usage likely exacerbates that.

[GD]

Is he even our 5th best starter option? We have like 7 good options. I don't know how much we even need him to.

[Olerud363]

Is he even our 5th best starter option? We have like 7 good options. I don't know how much we even need him to.

 

Sanchez, Stroman, Estrada, Happ, Liriano...

 

Who are your other two??

[GD]

Sanchez, Stroman, Estrada, Happ, Liriano...

 

Who are your other two??

 

Biagini, Bolsinger. Osuna would probably (?) be better than those guys, but I love our 5 man rotation. Obviously isn't likely to be better than Sanchez or Stroman. Probably not Estrada. I love Liriano and don't think that's likely. Maybe Happ?

[fatcowxlive]

Nah I don't think his arm will hold up well

 

Besides this isn't even a question, Osuna made it clear that he doesn't want to start

[Spanky99]

Ship has sailed, not happening. Plus, BTS logic.

[HERPDERP]

If we needed a rotation arm badly, sure. But we don't. Even if we needed a 5th starter desperately I wouldn't consider him.

 

Although I do find it funny how a lot of people here wanted a guy like Chapman to start back when he was with the reds. It's a bit different when it's your own guy.

[mikedumar]

He was already offered last year , and his agent specifically told management that osuna has no interest in being a starter ....

[HERPDERP]

He was already offered last year , and his agent specifically told management that osuna has no interest in being a starter ....

 

while researching a bit I came up with this article. Pretty insane how much attention we gave to Storen

 

https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/03/22/osuna-wants-to-close-but-will-wait-his-turn-if-need-be-dimanno.html

[RealAccountant]

That shoulder thing makes me wonder if something is coming next year

[flafson]

Not sure why people say he "doesn't want to". Why would anyone say publicly that they don't like their job?

Would you expect him to ask for a media scrimmage and announce he hates closing games while in a pennant race?

[KingKat]

Pretty insane how much attention we gave to Storen

 

Yep, I'll admit to doing that. I really thought Storen could close and Osuna could move to an Andrew Miller type role and pitch longer outings. No I'm not so sure that Osuna has the stamina for that. He's perfect in his current role. As for Storen, he basically sucks.

[KingKat]

Not sure why people say he "doesn't want to". Why would anyone say publicly that they don't like their job?

Would you expect him to ask for a media scrimmage and announce he hates closing games while in a pennant race?

 

He wouldn't have to say he doesn't like his job. He could just state a neutral platitude like: "I'm happy doing whatever's best for the team." He's expressed a preference for relieving. There's no reason to think he's being disingenuous.

[HERPDERP]

No one really expected Storen to suck that bad.

 

Slider is just as devastating

K rate is still up

Walk rate acceptable

GB % rate up

that HR/FB ratio though is unsustainable. Buy low?

 

He could end up being just like Grilli/Benoit honestly

[candymartinez]

How has the "ship sailed"? He's only 21 years old.

[burlingtonbandit]

Given how valuable relievers are now I'm surprised people are still asking the question to move him to the rotation. He probably has more trade value as a top 5-10 reliever than a number 3/4 starter.

[Captain Adama]

How has the "ship sailed"? He's only 21 years old.

 

Extensive injury history and future risk.

[Brownie19]

Bad mechanics makes starting him a bad idea.

[G-Snarls]

I put this in roster thread earlier but:

 

Likes being closer

 

Good at it

 

Gibby likes him there

 

TJS history makes upping innings more risky

 

Now 2 years removed from starting

 

5 good SP options on the team already

 

=

 

No way they even consider him for the starting rotation next year

[RealAccountant]

So is it safe to assume that Osuna will continue to be a good closer for the near future or could we see some issues.

 

I hope he has a Krod like career

[sg11]

Our rotation is fine as is. He is doing great where he is so why mess with what works unless of course the team needs him to do so. I say for 2017 at least he is better off in the pen