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Should Osuna Start in 2017  

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  1. 1. Should Osuna Start in 2017

    • He absolutely should.
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    • He should but that ship has sailed so let's just move on.
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    • He's providing plenty of value as is. Don't mess with success.
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Was his performance in 2015 and 2016 in the bigs worth messing up his future as a SP? He's been excellent as a reliever but could the Jays have still succeeded without him while having him start in the minors? Honest question.
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Was his performance in 2015 and 2016 in the bigs worth messing up his future as a SP? He's been excellent as a reliever but could the Jays have still succeeded without him while having him start in the minors? Honest question.

 

Two years ago Osuna was entering his age-20 season and had never pitched in AA. He was a fringy top-100 type. Him throwing 143 MLB innings in his first two seasons with a 2.63 ERA, 3.1 fWAR, 3.4 WPA, and 4.3 RA-9 WAR while probably sitting top-5 in reliever trade value is him turning into a very big success IMO. This is a prospect who panned out beautifully, and as low as my opinion is of AA, I think this actually turned out well.

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I'm sure AA didn't do it for the sake of Osuna's development.

 

He certainly didn't. It was a shortsighted panic move that I thought would fail miserably.

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He certainly didn't. It was a shortsighted panic move that I thought would fail miserably.

 

Osuna worked, but Castro faultered, was banished to AAA then a throw in to the Rockies headed to Coors field. Without looking at the stats I believe he had 10 or so total innings thrown above short season ball

 

More teams are starting to convert power armed prospect starters to a bullpen role and seeing success. Edwin Diaz, Michael Feliz, Osuna, Carl Edwards, I'm sure there are more

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Osuna worked, but Castro faultered, was banished to AAA then a throw in to the Rockies headed to Coors field. Without looking at the stats I believe he had 10 or so total innings thrown above short season ball

 

More teams are starting to convert power armed prospect starters to a bullpen role and seeing success. Edwin Diaz, Michael Feliz, Osuna, Carl Edwards, I'm sure there are more

 

A good observation. It used to be teams would try them as starters until they fail, then they'd try them as a starter again and again...then if he still failed, they would convert him to the pen. That mentality is changing. Tampa wasted years of productivity from Wade Davis following this old school mentality.

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