Jump to content
Jays Centre
  • Create Account

GDT - Wild Card Game - Baltimore vs Toronto - 12 WINS TO GO!

FrozenRopes

By FrozenRopes
in Toronto Blue Jays Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

TorontonianJD College Ball

TorontonianJD

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Was that a planned Blister/arm problem to give Liriano as much time as needed?

 

Saunders not scoring is somewhat debatable, but i thought Pillar should have read that better and scored.

 

Jeff Blair and Brunt were saying this morning that Saunders made the right call on the bases. That he was thinking it would be caught so he needed to tag at 2nd.

 

But the guys on TBS were saying it was a mistake. I think Tulo thought it was as well because you could see him taking to Saunders in dugout about it and I think he said "do you see what I'm saying. There's only one out".

 

What was the correct thing to do?

  • Replies 2.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Governator Vancouver Canadians

Governator

Community Moderator
Posted
Posted
Jeff Blair and Brunt were saying this morning that Saunders made the right call on the bases. That he was thinking it would be caught so he needed to tag at 2nd.

 

But the guys on TBS were saying it was a mistake. I think Tulo thought it was as well because you could see him taking to Saunders in dugout about it and I think he said "do you see what I'm saying. There's only one out".

 

What was the correct thing to do?

 

 

You don't tag up, you go half way and think about scoring. If he tags and goes to 3rd with 2 outs then there's no sac fly option anyway when you'd already be in scoring position by having to go back to second.

intentional wok Vancouver Canadians

intentional wok

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted (edited)
Jeff Blair and Brunt were saying this morning that Saunders made the right call on the bases. That he was thinking it would be caught so he needed to tag at 2nd.

 

But the guys on TBS were saying it was a mistake. I think Tulo thought it was as well because you could see him taking to Saunders in dugout about it and I think he said "do you see what I'm saying. There's only one out".

 

What was the correct thing to do?

 

I didn't get a good look of what was going on on the bases during the play, but from the limited camera angle it didn't look like he had a good lead to third base. I'd say he probably got mentally caught between getting as much distance towards third and going back for a tag-up if the ball was caught. Honestly, it was tough, but he wouldn't have looked so bad if he'd just been waiting to tag -- then he could at least use the excuse that he was playing conservatively and that Bourn's muck-up changed things. I think it's fair to assume that ball should have been caught.

 

Problem is he went half-measure on every potential outcome and looked like a goof. He wasn't waiting on second base to burst off following the catch either.

Edited by intentional wok
Sammy225 FCL Blue Jays

Sammy225

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
It did not look like he went back but i think the angle he had it looked like it was going to be caught (Which he did whiff on it). I think he went back when it came down because he thought it was going to be caught i am not sure though.
KevinGregg Draft Eligible

KevinGregg

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Watching the walkoff HR again, I feel bad for home plate lady. Some fat prick is standing in front of her even though there's usually no seat in front of her and she misses the whole Edwin AB. Iconic moment in Bluejays history, you have the best seat in the house, and you miss it for some fat guy's ass.
Yorkshire Blue Jay College Ball

Yorkshire Blue Jay

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
At the game I thought Bourn was going to make the catch too, so I can forgive Saunders (who was half way) retreating to tag up. That 90ft could have been critical had the out been made and most would have applauded if was able to move up on an out.
GD MVP

GD

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
It's funny to think about how much stress the pitching decisions caused us. In the end, everyone pitched so well that Gibby could have thrown them out in any order and it would have worked out. With the benefit of hindsight, it's clear that Gibby had the game mapped out in advance. Stroman for 6, Biagini and Cecil for the 7th, Grilli for the 8th, Osuna for the 9th and Liriano if Stroman falters or it goes to extras. Minus the Liriano part, these are the exact same assignments he's been using since the Benoit injury. If we had been privy to this plan before the game, many of us (including me) would have flipped at such an unimaginative, conservative strategy but it worked out great. It all comes down to the players and they answered the bell. This was a nice reminder that even without Benoit, the bullpen can be pretty sick when everyone has their proper rest.

 

It's a good counter to the 10 WAR manager idea. He should still be fired but we can win in spite of him.

Jonzo First Round Pick

Jonzo

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
At the game I thought Bourn was going to make the catch too, so I can forgive Saunders (who was half way) retreating to tag up. That 90ft could have been critical had the out been made and most would have applauded if was able to move up on an out.

 

You're wrong and missing the point. There was 1 out. He should have been half-way between second and third. If it drops he scores, if he catches it Saunders retreats back to 2nd and you still have a guy in scoring position with 2 outs.

ChrisS College Ball

ChrisS

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
It was a f***ing broad who threw the beer. No jail time......ugh.

 

 

I dont think its her, there is better video out there that seems to suggest a man near her threw it. Someone in the same location also threw one when EE hit the homerun.

STLJaysFan College Ball

STLJaysFan

Verified Member
Posted
Posted

https://www.google.com/amp/deadspin.com/this-is-the-closest-weve-gotten-to-finding-the-beer-thr-1787449226/amp?client=ms-android-verizon

 

There's two close up pictures on this site and I noticed that the guy who is smiling and looking down to his left is visible in the second photo but is nowhere to be found in the first one. Instead in the first photo, the area that looks like it's been vacated by someone where the smiling man is missing, you can see an off-white colored hat behind the person in front with the white hat on backwards left shoulder like someone is ducking down out of view. But the smiling man wasn't wearing a hat and who knows where he disappeared to in the other photo.

CBlake Draft Eligible

CBlake

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Just out of curiosity, did the police investigate|pursue anyone who threw a beer can on the field at game 5 of the ALDS last year?
STLJaysFan College Ball

STLJaysFan

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
That guy that police think is the beer thrower was drinking out of a plastic cup in a different picture. The man that was smiling in my aforementioned post was looking in the opposite direction of the guy they think threw the beer so I don't think that is the guy that did it.
King All-Star

King

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted

Rick WestheadVerified account ‏@rwesthead 5m5 minutes ago

Journalist Ken Pagan, PostMedia employee, ID'd by TSN as man in Toronto police photo related to beer-chucking at Jays game. @TSN_Sports

43211234 FCL Blue Jays

43211234

Verified Member
Posted
Posted
Rick WestheadVerified account ‏@rwesthead 5m5 minutes ago

Journalist Ken Pagan, PostMedia employee, ID'd by TSN as man in Toronto police photo related to beer-chucking at Jays game. @TSN_Sports

 

He just deleted his twitter.

 

Jonn MVP

Jonn

Old-Timey Member
Posted
Posted
He just deleted his twitter.

 

 

As long as they got him. Gets charged and he gets ass raped in prison all will be right in the world. He will lucky to get a job at Baskin Robins.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
The Jays Centre Caretaker Fund
The Jays Centre Caretaker Fund

You all care about this site. The next step is caring for it. We’re asking you to caretake this site so it can remain the premier Blue Jays community on the internet.

Become a Caretaker

  • Member Statistics

    20,996
    Total Members
    48,845
    Most Online
    ButchS
    Newest Member
    ButchS
    Joined
×
×
  • Create New...