jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Did you listen to Gregg What did he say?
el duque Verified Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 when you need runs you may sometimes put the ball in play and shorten your HR swing
Omar Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 All I hear is Ortiz soundclip saying "Sorry Blue Zayyss"
JFD Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 when you need runs you may sometimes put the ball in play and shorten your HR swing and before the game he basically called Gibbons a retard for not having Saunders in the lineup. Right and right you are Zaun.
Belliss101 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Author Posted September 14, 2016 when you need runs you may sometimes put the ball in play and shorten your HR swing That's it?
el duque Verified Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 That's it? Gregg is calling for situational management, you won't ask your big bats to shorten the swing most of the time or bunting, the problem with the Jays is that other than aiming for HR and taking big swings they seem to have no other strategy, they can win by a lot of runs but have trouble in close games
BlueJays Verified Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Guys, managers don't have any affect on games! /s But gibbons doesn't do anything dumb!!!!! /s
thatoneguy Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I'm totally done with "old school" managers (Gibbons) or players (Zaun) who don't keep up with the advancements of the game. Get with the times you slugs.
admin Site Manager Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 But gibbons doesn't do anything dumb!!!!! /s f***ing joke. Called it from the beginning of the season, he's f***ing terrible. We win, you ignore the stupid mistakes he makes. But when we lose, you notice even more how terrible he is. f***ing embarrasing how this guy can have a job. I don't care if you win, he's makes mistakes little league coaches wouldn't make. If I was Atkins, and Gibbons put Navarro in as DH and cleanup, I would have fired him that night.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 f***ing joke. Called it from the beginning of the season, he's f***ing terrible. We win, you ignore the stupid mistakes he makes. But when we lose, you notice even more how terrible he is. f***ing embarrasing how this guy can have a job. I don't care if you win, he's makes mistakes little league coaches wouldn't make. He's not a good manager but he's not really the reason we lost today. Stroman hanging an 0-2 curve is part of it. So is our offense being so inept against another mediocre pitcher. Gibbons made some dumb moves, some of them worked out though - starting Zeke actually worked out for the most part. Could Gibbons be the difference between missing the playoffs or not? Who knows. I'm on board with bringing in a new manager next year though. Not sure who exactly but Bud Black wouldn't be bad.
THANOS Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 He's not a good manager but he's not really the reason we lost today. Stroman hanging an 0-2 curve is part of it. So is our offense being so inept against another mediocre pitcher. Gibbons made some dumb moves, some of them worked out though - starting Zeke actually worked out for the most part. Could Gibbons be the difference between missing the playoffs or not? Who knows. I'm on board with bringing in a new manager next year though. Not sure who exactly but Bud Black wouldn't be bad. Bud Black's a great pick. Wish we could have pried away Tito when we had the chance before the end of 2015. As long as the solution isn't Eric Wedge, since he's very much a step backwards.
jiminy Verified Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 One positive about this late season swoon by the jays is at least they'll finally be rid of Gibbons after this year.
jiminy Verified Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 The only way we are sweeping the Red Sox at Fenway is if they clinch early and play the bench. Jays sweep at fenway lol
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 He's not a good manager but he's not really the reason we lost today. Stroman hanging an 0-2 curve is part of it. So is our offense being so inept against another mediocre pitcher. Gibbons made some dumb moves, some of them worked out though - starting Zeke actually worked out for the most part. Could Gibbons be the difference between missing the playoffs or not? Who knows. I'm on board with bringing in a new manager next year though. Not sure who exactly but Bud Black wouldn't be bad. I'm extremely, extremely, extremely confident in saying that we'd eventually have the same complaints and the same discussions regarding Bud Black. Fans are never happy with their manager and thry always think they have the worst one (including Giants, Orioles, Indians, etc.). The fact is that Gibby is decidedly better than guys like Farrell, Bannister, and Yost, but look where those teams have been in recent years. I'm not pro or against firing him, but to think it will improve our performance in any way, shape, or form is a massive pipe dream.
glory Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Jays and O's tied for the WC with 3 teams within 2.5 games (NYY/DET 2 games back and SEA 2.5). Man, I thought the WC was the worst case, but not making it at all is a distinct possibility with the way these guys are playing. On one hand, anything that makes firing Gibbons more likely is fine with me, but damn let's not waste JB and EE's last seasons here (assuming they don't come back).
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 This is what happens when you live and die on the home run ball to win games, nothing to see here kids. Works well enough for Baltimore
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 Jays and O's tied for the WC with 3 teams within 2.5 games (NYY/DET 2 games back and SEA 2.5). Man, I thought the WC was the worst case, but not making it at all is a distinct possibility with the way these guys are playing. The Orioles refuse to die. And yes the Yanks and Tigers are right there. The Tigers actually have a pretty easy schedule from here on out. Missing the WC is very possible.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I don't even understand how the Orioles are still in contention. They have the most "feast or famine"/homerun or nothing offence, and their starting pitching is absolute trash.
intentional wok Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 I don't even understand how the Orioles are still in contention. They have the most "feast or famine"/homerun or nothing offence, and their starting pitching is absolute trash. Most teams have mediocre pitching staffs by definition. They struggle to deal with the O's relentless power. The O's amazing back-end bullpen maintains a huge number of leads too. The Jays would be a mile ahead of them if the lineup performed correctly and if 10-11 losses weren't hung on Cecil and Storen alone. The O's good features have picked up their bad parts well while the Jays' record seems to accurately reflect how they've performed (a month of s***, four of high quality play, and the last two weeks of s***).
Olerud363 Old-Timey Member Posted September 14, 2016 Posted September 14, 2016 The Orioles refuse to die. And yes the Yanks and Tigers are right there. The Tigers actually have a pretty easy schedule from here on out. Missing the WC is very possible. There are 7 straight games with Seattle (2.5 back) and NY (2 back) coming up.... The end point could really be fan apprecation day, there is some irony there. We love you fans, we appreciate you fans, without you we couldn't do it... Now watch and eat popcorn as your Tonronto Blue Jays get eliminated against the exciting Baby Bomberssss!!!!!!! Yes guys - This place is realy dead... really dead. Yes guy 2 - did you know tickets were going on stubhup for under price?? I mean they still have a bit of a shot!, not great but only 3 back for the second wild card.
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