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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

Governator Vancouver Canadians

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Trade Bautista for a loogy?

 

Prospects, that's what he would be shipped for if they made the move. Whoever would offer the highest ranked young, controllable talent. There is nothing a LHP reliever could bring in value that would even come close to matching Bautista's expected WAR. We also just got back a pretty damn good LHP in a healthy Cecil.

TheGrandslamMan Draft Eligible

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I'm not against it if we could get a big haul to rebuild with while still being an offensive powerhouse without him. But I think his injuries and performance this year neglect us from getting a goldmine.
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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

 

I need to summarize....

 

You want to trade Bautista for a reliever or 2?

 

Please confirm if that is your position before I continue my reply

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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

 

Welcome Matt. I think we should keep Bautista and qualify him at the end of the season - get the draft pick , acquire a LOOGY through a similiar trade like the Grilli one.

Stangstag Toronto Blue Jays

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Bautista and Edwin have to give consent in order to trade them. That won't happen unless we are out of the playoff race.
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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

 

yeah....bautista isn't much of a playoff performer. He didn't do much last year in the post season.

L54 Vancouver Canadians

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yeah....bautista isn't much of a playoff performer. He didn't do much last year in the post season.

 

sss sjf .

Maahfaace FCL Blue Jays

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Baustista and Edwin are never going to accept a trade, so can we quit starting threads about them being traded.

 

This isn't necessarily true. I've stated this before, it is in Bautista's best interest to accept a trade at the deadline if he wants to maximize the contract he receives in the off-season. The pick that will be attached to him via the QO will lessen what he will obtain on the free agency market, especially given his age and contract demands. He's not a dumb guy, he is well aware of how the QO ramifications will affect him, and if he is sure the Jays aren't going to be offering what he is seeking this offseason it only makes sense from a financial standpoint that he would veto that no-trade clause.

 

I wont be shocked if he is dealt, not for any of OP's reasons of course, but for his own self-interests.

Dick_Pole FCL Blue Jays

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Just read this. Must

....practice....

restraint. Welcome to the Board!

 

No need for restraint. This is good news. One of the reasons to suggest keeping Bautista past this year was to appease casuals/bandwagoners. Matt just gave some reasons why this group might not be too upset to see Bautista leave. Bautista has priced himself out of town as even casuals have figured out his 5 year/$150M demand/suggestion/rumour was outrageous.

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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

 

Dumn...

FrozenRopes New Hampshire Fisher Cats

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There are a few reasons why I think (hope) that the Jays trade Jose:

 

1. They need to strengthen their Bullpen, particularly a solid LHP (or 2) if they hope to advance beyond the ALCS.

 

2. In order to do that, they should trade from an area of strength, power hitting, which they have an abundance of.

 

3. It was made clear by the Jays front office that they would realistically only be able to sign, one of either Jose Bautista or Edwin Encarnación, to long term contracts this off-season. Keeping that in mind, it only makes sense to sign one and trade the other for Bullpen help.

 

Why keep Edwin over Jose?

 

1. Chemistry: it's not hard to notice that the team looks more loose when he's not in the lineup, and they've been winning more as a result.

 

2. Production: Edwin is a beast! Leading the league in RBI's, Jose won't do that for the rest of his career.

 

3. Age/position: Edwin is younger and DH is less physically demanding a position than right field. Look at Big Papi, you can DH into your 40's!

 

4. Ezekiel Carrera: The team is better defensively with Carrera in right field and his speed/bunting ability makes the offence less one-dimensionable.

 

5. Jose is a punk: I love the Jays, but I hated watching how he responded against Texas. He gets beaned and then tries to take out their smallest player with a dirty slide... And then gets punked by said smallest player! C'mon, that's weak!!!

 

6. Booster juice isn't that good!

 

Those are my reasons for trading Jose, what are yours?

 

He doesn't have to agree to be traded, if I am not mistaken.

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He doesn't have to agree to be traded, if I am not mistaken.

 

He does, both him and Edwin have 10/5 rights.

And Tulo has a full no trade clause.

 

Having said that, if you tell him you want to trade him I'm sure he will accept it, just a matter of agreeing to which team.

Think of Cole Hamels last season, even though he had to agree on destination, they still got a ton for him but he has many more years of control than Batutista.

 

If you do trade him, I'm guessing something like the Cespedes deal is comparable, assuming of course Bautista is healthy.

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