GDT- Blue Jays @ Rays Game 3 of 4

[FrozenRopes]

I'll never understand how a single baserunner can be responsible for 2 outs regardless of how a play unfolds.

 

So I go into second to break up a dp and I grab the second baseman across his face and you don't understand? It's the interference of a routine mlb play trying to complete a double play.

[glory]

Some of you need to calm down. Bautista clearly interfered there. Maybe by accident, maybe intentionally, we don't know, but it happened. It just sucks that it happened when it happened, but a normal slide and it's possible Edwin would have been safe. This one isn't on Utley or the umps.

[Boxcar]

I am watching it again and it looks pretty clearly that the umps got it right. f***ing Bautista, how did he think he'd get away with it?

[Statman]

Seriously, that's a horrible call. The Utley rule has 3 criteria:

 

1. Have to slide early

2. Have to be well within reach of the bag

3. Can't slide past the bag

 

You're still allowed to get a piece of the infielder if you follow those 3 criteria.

 

Sliding past the second baseman and making contact by reaching back and grabbing his leg/ankle to impede the throw doesn't fit any of those criteria because it is illegal, and called interference.

[Governator]

This isn't the utley rule though he used his hands to interfere with the fielder, that was never a part of baseball.

 

Steamrolling a catcher was a allowed for 100 years, show me other calls that have happened like this prior to this year?

[Terminator]

Ee would have been safe anyway. Ridiculous.

 

That's what makes it tough to swallow. EE could have been safe anyway and it would have been a tied game with two outs.

 

But even though he didn't really make hard contact with his foot he did reach out which is interference and they get two outs.

 

f***ing sucks but that's what it is. Just need to get them tomorrow.

[jerry]

They should change the rule to say the runner must completely get out of the way and make no contact with the second baseman. Otherwise there will always be doubt like in tonight's play

[King]

Bautista wants $200 million?

[TBJ12]

This loss isn't Bautista's fault. Nobody gave a f*** about interference at second base until Utley busted Tejada's leg.

[thatoneguy]

What a f***ing waste of a great outing by Sanchez. Terrible first loss.

[Krylian]

you really need to calm down brah, you're acting like I posted nudes of your girlfriend or something?

 

You wouldn't do that. You'd never post pics of your mom.

[Rusty_Savage]

Seriously, that's a horrible call. The Utley rule has 3 criteria:

 

1. Have to slide early

2. Have to be well within reach of the bag

3. Can't slide past the bag

 

You're still allowed to get a piece of the infielder if you follow those 3 criteria.

 

It's not the god damned Utley rule

[Statman]

Bautista wants $200 million?

 

Dat defense and base running gaffes.

[TBJ12]

bautista wants $200 million?

 

gfy!

[o2cui2i]

Seriously, that's a horrible call. The Utley rule has 3 criteria:

 

1. Have to slide early

2. Have to be well within reach of the bag

3. Can't slide past the bag

 

You're still allowed to get a piece of the infielder if you follow those 3 criteria.

 

If Jose had just slid into the base it would have been fine. it's the stupid grab that got us screwed.

[RealAccountant]

This loss isn't Bautista's fault. Nobody gave a f*** until about interference at second base until Utley busted Tejada's leg.

 

Edwin and Cecil failures

[Dylan]

You wouldn't do that. You'd never post pics of your mom.

 

[Statman]

This loss isn't Bautista's fault. Nobody gave a f*** until about interference at second base until Utley busted Tejada's leg.

 

Has nothing to do with that rule but it will fall under that rule now. That particular play was considered interference last year too.

[closetjaysfan]

(d) Any batter or runner who has just been put out hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall be declared out for the interference of his teammate;

Rule 7.09(d) Comment: If the batter or a runner continues to advance after he has been put out, he shall not by that act alone be considered as confusing, hindering or impeding the fielders.

(e) If, in the judgment of the umpire, a base runner willfully and deliberately interferes with a batted ball or a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball with the obvious intent to break up a double play, the ball is dead. The umpire shall call the runner out for interference and also call out the batter-runner because of the action of his teammate. In no event may bases be run or runs scored because of such action by a runner.

 

It looks to me like (d) would apply before (e)

[TheHurl]

I interpret it as not reviewable.

 

Interference for the Purpose of Breaking Up a Double Play. An Umpire's determination under Official Baseball Rule 6.01(j).

NOTE: Other than for purposes of determining whether the runner interfered with a fielder within the meaning of Rule 6.01(j), whether a base runner willfully or deliberately interfered with a fielder with the intent to break up a double play, within the meaning of Rule 6.01(a)(6) or (7), shall not be reviewable.

 

Example 1. While running to second base, a runner intentionally collides with the second baseman, who is attempting to field a ground ball between the bases. Because whether the runner engaged in a bona fide slide is not at issue, whether the umpire determines there was interference is not reviewable

[fatcowxlive]

Steamrolling a catcher was a allowed for 100 years, show me other calls that have happened like this prior to this year?

 

Obviously not as intense but http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/6479266/v7757119/bosbal-orioles-turn-two-when-beltre-interferes

[Krylian]

What a f***ing waste of a great outing by Sanchez. Terrible first loss.

 

Well. I'm going to try to spin it into a positive. Maybe this just adds fuel...fans the flames of the fire and gets them mad. Playing with a little anger can help.

 

If they spin it into a 'the world' is against us kind of thing. Even if it's not true...as long as they believe it, there could be a little motivation there.

[guylaroche5]

I am watching it again and it looks pretty clearly that the umps got it right. f***ing Bautista, how did he think he'd get away with it?

 

As soon as I saw the replay I thought it was gonna be reversed. As much as I love Jose he does have a history of boneheaded plays. This game wasn't decided by the umps, or New York, or Chase Utley, it's entirely on Joey.

[L54]

I don't know what the consensus is around here, but to me Jose needs to know better. That's 100% on him. Now he'll whine like a bitch but if this had happened to the Jays and wasn't over turned he'd be doing the bitching from the other point of view.

[Rafters]

U r correct.....interference is not reviewable...interesting to find out from mlb what the official ruling was and why it was called

[BlueJayWay]

I dunno. I just chalk this up to the Jays playing in Tropicana. Bizarre things happen. Tough losses always.

[nmrch]

This loss isn't Bautista's fault. Nobody gave a f*** about interference at second base until Utley busted Tejada's leg.

 

no true, i can remember a couple of double plays that went in our favor because of interference calls before the Utley/Tejada play. Baseball has teightened up the contact rules on slides for a couple of years now. and they've been enforced fairly strictly.

 

If you notice Bautista didn't protest in any way when teh call was made, he knew he f***ed up.

[fatcowxlive]

I interpret it as not reviewable.

 

Interference for the Purpose of Breaking Up a Double Play. An Umpire's determination under Official Baseball Rule 6.01(j).

NOTE: Other than for purposes of determining whether the runner interfered with a fielder within the meaning of Rule 6.01(j), whether a base runner willfully or deliberately interfered with a fielder with the intent to break up a double play, within the meaning of Rule 6.01(a)(6) or (7), shall not be reviewable.

 

Example 1. While running to second base, a runner intentionally collides with the second baseman, who is attempting to field a ground ball between the bases. Because whether the runner engaged in a bona fide slide is not at issue, whether the umpire determines there was interference is not reviewable

 

^^ Now THAT is interesting... I wonder what the official call is then

[Swervin81]

Seriously, this sets such a horrible precedent too.

 

Mark my words, we will see middle infielders diving and flopping like soccer players to draw cheap interference calls on that rule.

[TheHurl]

I am watching it again and it looks pretty clearly that the umps got it right. f***ing Bautista, how did he think he'd get away with it?

 

I would love for the league just say "you have one hour to say whatever you want Jose, no fines no suspensions" his rant would be so entertaining.