General 2016 Blue Jays discussion thread

[HERPDERP]

Would it really be that hard for the baseball world to talk about pitcher durability in terms of Total Pitches Thrown rather than IP? It's just so antiquated and inaccurate.

 

Pitches thrown is better than IP.

 

Although I'd like to see a system where you also include types of pitches, stressful innings (hard to quantify though), as well as a tracking of bullpen throws.

[Cyborg]

And Stroman barely threw any last year. This sounds like it's more of a bullpen desperation move than anything.

 

Stroman could throw during rehab. Just because he wasnt pitching in games doesnt mean he didnt keep his arm strength up.

[vilifyingforce]

Pitches thrown is better than IP.

 

Although I'd like to see a system where you also include types of pitches, stressful innings (hard to quantify though), as well as a tracking of bullpen throws.

 

Warm ups and length of innings would be good tracks.

[Jimcanuck]

Would it really be that hard for the baseball world to talk about pitcher durability in terms of Total Pitches Thrown rather than IP? It's just so antiquated and inaccurate.

 

Agreed, although effort level and mechanics likely far exceed #pitches or #IP for injury risk.

 

Edit - with Sanchez for the Jays it was never about #IP, but how he feels, rebounds, results. Hence the long meeting the other day. Likely another one after next start.

[vilifyingforce]

Agreed, although effort level and mechanics likely far exceed #pitches or #IP for injury risk.

 

Or each persons physiology. I have "loose" joints and am more prone to joint issues.

[Grant77]

Pitches thrown is better than IP.

 

Although I'd like to see a system where you also include types of pitches, stressful innings (hard to quantify though), as well as a tracking of bullpen throws.

 

Well maybe they do use that system.

[Laika]

- pitches

- innings

- games

- the time between those events

- regularity

- mechanics

- game stress

- genetics

- pitch type

- resume / track record / experience

- age

- weather?

- randomness

- height

- weight

- gender

- sexual orientation

- political leanings

 

All of these things influence injury risk...

[HERPDERP]

- pitches

- innings

- games

- the time between those events

- regularity

- mechanics

- game stress

- genetics

- pitch type

- resume / track record / experience

- age

- weather?

- randomness

- height

- weight

- gender

- sexual orientation

- political leanings

 

All of these things influence injury risk...

 

lets not forget race

[Cyborg]

- pitches

- innings

- games

- the time between those events

- regularity

- mechanics

- game stress

- genetics

- pitch type

- resume / track record / experience

- age

- weather?

- randomness

- height

- weight

- gender

- sexual orientation

- political leanings

 

All of these things influence injury risk...

 

You forgot religious beliefs.

[HERPDERP]

You forgot religious beliefs.

 

circumcised/uncircumcised is a pretty big factor too

[Brownie19]

circumcised/uncircumcised is a pretty big factor too

 

I hear the snuff throws off your balance at times.

[Laika]

You forgot religious beliefs.

 

A ran a simple regression and there was nothing statistically significant

[CHRIS]

A ran a simple regression and there was nothing statistically significant

 

Maybe BTS can run another one and see if he gets different results.

[HERPDERP]

I hear the snuff throws off your balance at times.

 

Why else do you think giant guys like Broxton and Rauch suck ass?

[L54]

AJ Burnett used to pack hammers thats for sure

[Olerud363]

A ran a simple regression and there was nothing statistically significant

 

My model showed that being of Mormon religion is definately correlated with Health and future Cy youngs.

[BTS]

Maybe BTS can run another one and see if he gets different results.

 

I should. njh probably forgot to carry a 1 or something.

[Captain Adama]

My model showed that being of Mormon religion is definately correlated with Health and future Cy youngs.

 

Halladay left the Mormon religion when he got good. I wanna see your data.

[nmrch]

Devon Travis has reached 4 WAR now in just 114 career games. Yes, the projections(both offensive and defensive) think he isn't as good as his career numbers suggest but he's put up franchise cornerstone numbers so far, you can't take that away from him.

[RealAccountant]

With Travis and Donaldson even if Bautista and Encarnacion leave I still think we can compete for playoffs next year. Specially if we can hold on to Saunders and find a good DH

[fatcowxlive]

With Travis and Donaldson even if Bautista and Encarnacion leave I still think we can compete for playoffs next year. Specially if we can hold on to Saunders and find a good DH

 

We should have enough flexibility to sign Edwin, our rotation is dirt cheap

[Governator]

We should have enough flexibility to sign Edwin, our rotation is dirt cheap

 

I still think it's a long shot.

[nmrch]

With Travis and Donaldson even if Bautista and Encarnacion leave I still think we can compete for playoffs next year. Specially if we can hold on to Saunders and find a good DH

 

People make way too much of the Jays impending FA losses. Travis, Donaldson, Pillar, Tulowitzki and Martin are a very good position player core. You can fill the other positions around them with players that don't break the bank and still be a competitive team overall.

 

The Red Sox are in a better position than us but i still don't see how the Jays won't atleast be only a couple of games behind them and a strong WC contender.

[fatcowxlive]

I still think it's a long shot.

 

We have the money, depends if the FO deem him worth the money or not

[RealAccountant]

I think you qualify all 3 and hope one of them decided not to pursue FA. I can see Bautista accepting if he continues to struggle

[RealAccountant]

Price blew it pretty good last night too. We may have a better rotation then the Sox

[Melvin]

I think you qualify all 3 and hope one of them decided not to pursue FA. I can see Bautista accepting if he continues to struggle

 

Won't happen. Joey is old and wants at least a few years of security from a deal longer than a year.

[jaysfan2014]

Bolsinger back to AAA, with Liriano joining the roster.

[HERPDERP]

Won't happen. Joey is old and wants at least a few years of security from a deal longer than a year.

 

watch no one want him for multiple years but he ends up signing a 2 year deal with...Minny out of all teams

[Orgfiller]

Bolsinger back to AAA, with Liriano joining the roster.

 

That's rough for Bolsinger, his highlight as a Blue Jays thus far has been getting interviewed by Barry Davis.