Osuna Closer; Leon, Biagini, Tepera make pen; Ceciliani Optioned

[Angrioter]

9 pages of bitching over RP7 and 4th OF

I know, we suxx as an human being.

[ValiantJaysFan]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/meet-newest-jays-relievercomedian-joe-biagini/?row=0&row_id=1617493

 

Seems like we need comedians on this team. The Italian Kawasaki.

[Cyborg]

Sanchez is the 3rd starter? I thought that would be Happ

 

Hes the "5th" starter but in the 3rd spot. My guess is they wanted the most velocity following Dickey.

[CultofShatkins]

#BlueJays' bench assuming EE avoids DL:

•C Josh Thole

•IF Darwin Barney

•OF Ezequiel Carrera

•1B/DH Justin Smoak

 

Ugh...That's gross

 

Yep.

 

[Dr. Dinger]

Osuna as closer is probably Gibby though lol trolled. But if Shatkins aren't going to have Osuna starting somewhere then might as well let the kid close. Who cares at this point.

 

I'm not even sure how this could be considered a troll. Probably at least 28/30 MLB teams use their best reliever as their closer, if not all of them. Osuna is our best reliever, not to mention the incumbent.

[4thOFan]

Storen will close -BTS, NJH

[glory]

Let's be real, the team's best reliever will be pitching in the 7th inning this year.

 

Regardless, I think most of the anger comes from Zeke making it and Tepera possibly getting a chance to face a glut of lefties because Gibbons doesn't know anything about statistics or sample size (Tepera has been hot garbage against lefties forever).

[Dr. Dinger]

Honestly I agree. But the board seems trolled.

 

That's because half this board lives in a fantasy land where bullpen roles are decided not on merit but on the possibility of future draft picks and arbitration salaries. Pay them no mind.

[Dr. Dinger]

Let's be real, the team's best reliever will be pitching in the 7th inning this year.

 

Regardless, I think most of the anger comes from Zeke making it and Tepera possibly getting a chance to face a glut of lefties because Gibbons doesn't know anything about statistics or sample size (Tepera has been hot garbage against lefties forever).

 

Yep, objectively, Cecil is our best reliever and has been for three years. For whatever reason though, he does seem to choke when given a chance to close. Maybe SSS, or maybe he just doesn't thrive in high pressure situations. I dunno.

[Governator]

Yep, objectively, Cecil is our best reliever and has been for three years. For whatever reason though, he does seem to choke when given a chance to close. Maybe SSS, or maybe he just doesn't thrive in high pressure situations. I dunno.

 

Didn't he get like 1 chance last April or May and they immediately gave up on him for Osuna?

[intentional wok]

Yep, objectively, Cecil is our best reliever and has been for three years. For whatever reason though, he does seem to choke when given a chance to close. Maybe SSS, or maybe he just doesn't thrive in high pressure situations. I dunno.

 

He had a rough first month last year, didn't he? They pulled him from the closer role pretty early and he still struggled a bit, right? I'm not sure if he chokes as a closer per se, or if his closing opportunities seem to coincide with rough patches.

 

Didn't he get like 1 chance last April or May and they immediately gave up on him for Osuna?

 

I think he blew a Yankees game with some HBPs in the first series. Job went to Castro after that.

[Dr. Dinger]

Didn't he get like 1 chance last April or May and they immediately gave up on him for Osuna?

 

He blew a couple early last year but he also had shots the previous season IIRC. I kinda prefer it this way, it frees us up to use our best RP whenever we need him.

[Dr. Dinger]

He had a rough first month last year, didn't he? They pulled him from the closer role pretty early and he still struggled a bit, right? I'm not sure if he chokes as a closer per se, or if his closing opportunities seem to coincide with rough patches.

 

You also never hear him discussed as a closer candidate and you never read about him saying he wants it. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors? Maybe he just really doesn't feel comfortable in that role.

[43211234]

Carrera is basically the definition of a replacement OF. Makes no sense to make any sacrifice to protect him.

[intentional wok]

You also never hear him discussed as a closer candidate and you never read about him saying he wants it. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors? Maybe he just really doesn't feel comfortable in that role.

 

Cecil seems to really fly under the radar. There should be a contingent of Cecil-as-closer supporters but I honestly have never seen it. I agree Cecil's best role should be the more fluid one he has, but even then you'd expect some corner of the fanbase to be phoning Wilner about it every night. Weird.

[Dr. Dinger]

Cecil seems to really fly under the radar. There should be a contingent of Cecil-as-closer supporters but I honestly have never seen it. I agree Cecil's best role should be the more fluid one he has, but even then you'd expect some corner of the fanbase to be phoning Wilner about it every night. Weird.

 

The type of Blue Jays fans who call Wilner have no idea how good Cecil really is. Even then, Wilner would probably say something retarded like "You can't have a lefty as your closer. You just can't!"

[BTS]

That's because half this board lives in a fantasy land where bullpen roles are decided not on merit but on the possibility of future draft picks and arbitration salaries. Pay them no mind.

 

Is Osuna even tangibly better than Storen?

[BigCecil]

Cecil seems to really fly under the radar. There should be a contingent of Cecil-as-closer supporters but I honestly have never seen it. I agree Cecil's best role should be the more fluid one he has, but even then you'd expect some corner of the fanbase to be phoning Wilner about it every night. Weird.

 

I was thinking same on a fan push for Cecil as closer. He had it last year and lost it.(his arm was hurting in ST). I think Dinger is right. Most fans just don't realize how incredible he was 2nd half 2015.

 

At least as dominant as BJ Ryan and Ward at their best for us. He ain't no loogy. I too like him where he is now though.

[Dr. Dinger]

Is Osuna even tangibly better than Storen?

 

All things being equal, the incumbent will always win out. Besides, this is a tempest in a teapot. If Osuna blows a few saves and Storen is tight, it will quickly change... albeit not because of draft pick compensation.

[jb22]

Storen will close -BTS, NJH

 

Huh go figure the all knowing of bjmb speaking in absolutes can be wrong. Oh well as long as you ignore the ones you miss and advertise the ones you hit you'll come out on top.

[BTS]

Huh go figure the all knowing of bjmb speaking in absolutes can be wrong. Oh well as long as you ignore the ones you miss and advertise the ones you hit you'll come out on top.

 

Nobody spoke in absolutes. He asked for fantasy tips, and people told him that it would probably be Storen because reports had come out saying that it would probably be Storen.

[KingKat]

I agree Cecil's best role should be the more fluid one he has

 

Except that he doesn't actually have a fluid role. He's basically a 7th inning closer.

[Laika]

Storen will close -BTS, NJH

 

I sincerely hope you wasted a pick on Storen. That was the goal.

[glory]

Except that he doesn't actually have a fluid role. He's basically a 7th inning closer.

 

Yep. Sanchez pitched every 8th inning regardless of the situation because he was the "8th inning guy". I think it will be the same this year. Gibbons has already aped Ned Yost's lineup construction, might as well try for the pen. At least the latter has a chance to be effective.

[Angrioter]

Source: Cory Luebke can opt out of deal with Pirates today. Has not yet been told if he will make the team.

 

 

I want him

[Laika]

Source: Cory Luebke can opt out of deal with Pirates today. Has not yet been told if he will make the team.

 

I want him

 

yup

[glory]

Source: Cory Luebke can opt out of deal with Pirates today. Has not yet been told if he will make the team.

 

 

I want him

 

Make it happen.

[Dr. Dinger]

Hasn't he had like 4 TJS's? Meh.

[glory]

Put him in the pen and hope he's Cecil part II.

[Angrioter]

Put him in the pen and hope he's Cliff Lee part II.

Iftfy