Aaron Sanchez put on 25 lbs of muscle this offseason

[Cyborg]

Overall this board is obviously the best Jays board around. But I still don't get how mostly everyone can be hell-bent on the "sustainable winner" dream with cost-controlled players and at the same time be so against the notion of giving some of our young players the chance to *develop*.

 

"Look at Sanchez's metrics as a starter from 150 IP across AA, AAA and MLB, he sucks, make him our 3rd righty reliever. But make sure we are a sustainable winner. Thanks."

 

We just want a different cost controlled guy.

[Brownie19]

We just want a different cost controlled guy.

 

yeah one that doesn't suck would be great

[Krylian]

Does anyone remember what happened with Brandon League when he decided to bulk up after an off-season. He went from high 90's to low 90's.

[Boxcar]

Overall this board is obviously the best Jays board around. But I still don't get how mostly everyone can be hell-bent on the "sustainable winner" dream with cost-controlled players and at the same time be so against the notion of giving some of our young players the chance to *develop*.

 

"Look at Sanchez's metrics as a starter from 150 IP across AA, AAA and MLB, he sucks, make him our 3rd righty reliever. But make sure we are a sustainable winner. Thanks."

 

If the cost controlled guy sucks in that role, how is he contributing to a winner?

[Spanky99]

What if 20 of the 25 is in his hog.

 

Why would his Hog's pipe have anything to do with it?

[Spanky99]

Does anyone remember what happened with Brandon League when he decided to bulk up after an off-season. He went from high 90's to low 90's.

 

Too much muscle in his traps. Resulted in bad mechanics, injury, etc...

[TheHurl]

Overall this board is obviously the best Jays board around. But I still don't get how mostly everyone can be hell-bent on the "sustainable winner" dream with cost-controlled players and at the same time be so against the notion of giving some of our young players the chance to *develop*.

 

"Look at Sanchez's metrics as a starter from 150 IP across AA, AAA and MLB, he sucks, make him our 3rd righty reliever. But make sure we are a sustainable winner. Thanks."

 

Sanchez had the unfortunate scenario of being linked to Syndergaard throughout his minor league career and that was furthered when it was rumoured that the Mets said either guy, and AA chose Thor to be in the Dickey trade. Even with that the original narrative about Sanchez (around here anyway) was trade him while his value is still that of a top 30 prospect, as there were many that felt he'd return more in trade than he would provide here. Now his traditional stats were better than his advanced stats and it gave some of the Anti-Saber crowd some ammunition to fire back with and somehow Aaron became the bad guy out of this. I don't mind Sanchez being in the minors trying to become a starter, but that as a failed experiment, just hurts the big club in multiple ways (kills Sanchez's trade value, while a likely weaker reliever is getting IP's with the big club in a year where they should be competitive). Sanchez starting in the majors, while everyone ahead of him currently is healthy...just makes zero sense to me. So at this point, Sanchez in the pen is safer and probably smarter.

[Spanky99]

Sanchez from my naked eye, looked bulked up, yet that was while he was wearing a sweater at the Winter tour.

[glory]

Overall this board is obviously the best Jays board around. But I still don't get how mostly everyone can be hell-bent on the "sustainable winner" dream with cost-controlled players and at the same time be so against the notion of giving some of our young players the chance to *develop*.

 

"Look at Sanchez's metrics as a starter from 150 IP across AA, AAA and MLB, he sucks, make him our 3rd righty reliever. But make sure we are a sustainable winner. Thanks."

 

Typically using bad starters in the rotation, even if they're young and cheap, doesn't help in building sustainable winners.

 

With that said, putting Sanchez in AAA as a starter would be the ideal situation. If AA's regime was still around, then I'd just stick him in the pen and not worry about it, but Atkins/Shapiro have a history of developing SP's. See if they can work some Cleveland SP magic on him in AAA. If not, then put him in the pen long-term. With his current skillset, he's a reliever. If they work on him and maybe help him develop a swing and miss pitch, then the chances of him becoming an MLB starter increase.

[vilifyingforce]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gotta-hear-it-sanchez-gained-25-lbs-of-muscle/

 

Interview with the Sanchez claiming his 25lbs.

[Laika]

I don't think he ever says "of muscle".

 

Probably just ate a lot

 

We should expect big things

[Spanky99]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/gotta-hear-it-sanchez-gained-25-lbs-of-muscle/

 

Interview with the Sanchez claiming his 25lbs.

 

Yeah, watched it, no way of telling. Stroman's his #1 fan, lol.

[gbill2004]

This is the exact title of the video: GOTTA HEAR IT: SANCHEZ GAINED 25 LBS OF MUSCLE

 

But you guys are right, he never says "muscle" in the interview.

[rydermike]

This is why Sanchez thinks he added 25 pounds http://i.imgur.com/i4E6el3.png

[Angrioter]

Overall this board is obviously the best Jays board around. But I still don't get how mostly everyone can be hell-bent on the "sustainable winner" dream with cost-controlled players and at the same time be so against the notion of giving some of our young players the chance to *develop*.

 

"Look at Sanchez's metrics as a starter from 150 IP across AA, AAA and MLB, he sucks, make him our 3rd righty reliever. But make sure we are a sustainable winner. Thanks."

 

Sanchez have some value (Ala Baez), trade him before everybody know his true value.

 

Aaron ceiling is Tom wilhelmsen

[crazy47larry]

This is the exact title of the video: GOTTA HEAR IT: SANCHEZ GAINED 25 LBS OF MUSCLE

 

But you guys are right, he never says "muscle" in the interview.

 

Yeah but... How could he be in the best shape of his life if it WASN'T muscle?

[Governator]

I'm pretty sure if the story was about Sanchez saving an old woman, some of you would still look to hate on him. You care way too much.

[glory]

So you are actually agreeing with me.

 

I never said Sanchez is a good starter. I think it's unlikely he is ever a good starter but there is too much incentive to keep trying to make him one as opposed to just giving up on him. I can't be the only one who is still butt hurt over Chris Carpenter.

 

I don't think anyone would disagree with having him develop more in the minors. Putting him in the MLB rotation when they have six guys that are clearly better than him is the issue. If it's either Sanchez in the big league rotation or Sanchez in the big league pen, then you'd have to pick bullpen because unless he turns into a completely different pitcher in spring training, chances are he'll hurt the team as a SP.

[vdubmvp]

I'm pretty sure if the story was about Sanchez saving an old woman, some of you would still look to hate on him. You care way too much.

 

Maybe that old woman was ready to die.

[Governator]

Maybe that old woman was ready to die.

 

He's an *******.

[Inklink]

LOL, anyone who frequents RealGM Raptors forum find this as funny as I did?

[guylaroche5]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2011/11/23/1322071748967/Brad-Pitt-in-Moneyball.-007.jpg

 

 

25 pounds of muscle you say? but can he stop guys from getting on base?

[nmrch]

Sanchez isn't very bright, another reason its unlikely he'll ever fix his command problems to enough of a degree to be a starter.

[Jimcanuck]

Sanchez isn't very bright, another reason its unlikely he'll ever fix his command problems to enough of a degree to be a starter.

 

Halladay evidently not too bright either

 

Sanchez = Halladay

[43211234]

I'd rather 25 points to his fastball command grade.

[FrozenRopes]

25lbs with 4-6 lbs of muscle, maybe...

[Brownie19]

It's offseason spitballing similar to "the best shape of his life"..

 

I feel bad for the players who actually work their tail off all season, add muscle and actually come into the spring training in the best shape of their life...

 

Literally no one believes them...

Edited January 20, 2016 by Brownie19

[flafson]

To me, he should either start in the big league rotation or AAA rotation. If you keep him in the pen you pretty much kill his chances of developing his other pitches and give up on the idea of him ever starting.

And we all know it's only a matter of time before we need someone from AAA to start, I rather it's him after he had some time to work on his pitches than some of the other failed AAAA guys we have.

[Krylian]

I feel bad for the players who actually work their tail off all season, add muscle and actually come into the spring training in the best shape of their life...

 

Literally no one believes them...

 

Literally?

[RealAccountant]

It's possible he is working out with Stromans dad

 

Any pics yet?