David Price Signs 7 year deal with Red Sox

[gruber92]

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGY'S BAAAAAAAAAAACK

 

omg I'm so excited

 

Oh, f***..

 

The Red Sox have got some serious mental issues dishing out that kind of term for Price. There is no way the difference in the numbers Price will put up versus Estrada or Happ will be worth the extra $18M per. This smells like another Red Sox bust move.

[Spanky99]

Corporate ownership and DR.'s, lawyers etc, of the same ilk, have no problem renting out private boxes or sitting in season ticket groups that could fund plenty of sick children, yet, it's still all a business write off? Just to see that Joey Bats jack... please.

[King]

Biggest moron who proclaims himself as a "die-hard" on twitter:

 

Anyone familiar with this tard?

 

 

Yes, I used to follow him. He's a dumb guy from Atlanta. I unfollowed him a few months ago, because dumn. Also, he's creepy at selfies.

[Spanky99]

Absurd, simply

 

Oh f*** off. All 3 of ya.

[King]

Oh f*** off. All 3 of ya.

 

Eat a dick, toerag.

[Spanky99]

Eat a dick, toerag.

 

Heh...

[ElNik2013]

Alright, so all this means is that we will roll on the floor laughing for longer at the Red Sux!

[KingKat]

Also, he's creepy at selfies.

 

This is pretty significant coming from you.

[King]

This is pretty significant coming from you.

 

Actually, this is creepy coming from you, because I don't think I have ever showed you my selfies.

[saskjayfan]

I might be in the minority, but I think David Price is going to be very effective at the age of 35 and 36.

[crmr]

I might be in the minority, but I think David Price is going to be very effective at the age of 35 and 36.

 

He could be, but he could also get injured in any of the next four years and struggle to have any effectiveness

 

That's a big problem with these long term deals to pitchers (especially one with Price's historical workload), the higher likeliness of missing extended time (say one year) creates a 30 mil hole for Boston in any particular season.

 

I don't necessarily likely the Jays particular moves, but I do like the idea of spreading out the earnings among the entire rotation

[Jimcanuck]

I might be in the minority, but I think David Price is going to be very effective at the age of 35 and 36.

 

did you have a heavenly vision?

 

no one knows what price will be like at 35 and 36, not even david price. this is about risk.... the risk of a club paying $31M a year for an ineffective player

[nextyear]

It would have been great if David Price decided to give the Toronto Blue Jays a discount and a shorter contract for say 5 years. However, based on a baseball analyst that I heard on 590 AM, baseball players are under immense pressure from the player's union to take the top dollar since other player's contracts are based on recent contracts. I already knew this fact but it is sad to realize that this is reality in the MLB (and the NHL, NBA and NFL).

 

I hope that the Red Sox will finish several games behind the Blue Jays in the standings but that David Price will do well. Who knows, maybe David Price will come back to the Blue Jays in 5 - 6 years.

[MusicaEsLivida]

do a poll. asking who would have paid that price as the blue jays for him?

 

i bet most say no

[Jonn]

Well Atleast we got J.A. Happ

[saskjayfan]

did you have a heavenly vision?

 

no one knows what price will be like at 35 and 36, not even david price. this is about risk.... the risk of a club paying $31M a year for an ineffective player

 

this isn't me suggesting we should have signed him. I wouldn't have paid that price. I understand the risk. I just think that Clemens won the cy young at what 40? Schilling had his best seasons mid 30s, same for Randy Johnson. Bartolo Colon is still effective and he's over 40 and resembles the michelin man. Price relies heavily on the fastball. He doesn't spin the ball like some pitchers. I think his command of the fastball is his key. I just think he will age well and will remain reasonably healthy. You can bump this thread in 6 years if I'm wrong and I will eat a healthy slice of humble pie.

[saskjayfan]

Well Atleast we got J.A. Happ

 

would have rather had samardzija

[Spanky99]

I'm not hating on athletes, and I'm not sure why you think I am. I understand supply and demand, and I understand the reality of the situation. I've said nothing to indicate that I don't.

 

Forgive me, but I'm really not sure what you mean in the bolded part of your post.

 

Ballplayers whom end up with s***** jobs or back on a farm at late ages, when they skipped free education, etc, etc...

[nonamejays]

Glad to see that the Jays once again are going to be doing nothing but half measures and are going with a generally mediocre approach to the offseason. Woohoo, JA Happ, that will make your team a contender. That and Chavez being the only two acquisitions, and likely the only two acquisitions of note is beyond pathetic after how much revenue was generated from July on.

 

I would not have paid the Price on David, but the fact they came out and said that they aren't targeting anyone of merit is frustrating. This team has a short window, perhaps as little as one more season. Wouldn't want to actually try and win. Might cost you 15 extra million dollars. Never mind that you'd get that back 5-10 fold over the season.

 

Stingy cheap ass owners that will only do things to a point and no further. Yes, they have a top 10 payroll, but for how much revenue they have, they can easily afford to be top 5 considering they have an entire country supporting them. They aren't Tampa or Oakland where they literally have zero dollars to play with. Rogers is rolling in cash.

 

If/when the Jays struggle this season, which is likely if Estrada, Happ and Chavez regress from career seasons, then it will get ugly.

[Spanky99]

Glad to see that the Jays once again are going to be doing nothing but half measures and are going with a generally mediocre approach to the offseason. Woohoo, JA Happ, that will make your team a contender. That and Chavez being the only two acquisitions, and likely the only two acquisitions of note is beyond pathetic after how much revenue was generated from July on.

 

I would not have paid the Price on David, but the fact they came out and said that they aren't targeting anyone of merit is frustrating. This team has a short window, perhaps as little as one more season. Wouldn't want to actually try and win. Might cost you 15 extra million dollars. Never mind that you'd get that back 5-10 fold over the season.

 

Stingy cheap ass owners that will only do things to a point and no further. Yes, they have a top 10 payroll, but for how much revenue they have, they can easily afford to be top 5 considering they have an entire country supporting them. They aren't Tampa or Oakland where they literally have zero dollars to play with. Rogers is rolling in cash.

 

If/when the Jays struggle this season, which is likely if Estrada, Happ and Chavez regress from career seasons, then it will get ugly.

 

Yay, dumn posters.

[nonamejays]

Yay, dumn posters.

 

Yay, being content with 3rd place finishes.

 

The Jays need a #2/3 starter and 2 pen arms still. They aren't going to spend on those pieces. They don't have anything to trade for those pieces unless they want to create another hole in another position. They will win a lot of games due to their offense, but it is doubtful that it'll be enough to win the division, especially with teams that don't have arbitrary financial constraints.

[BTS]

Did everyone complaining about the team taking half measures miss the trade deadline last year?

[Spanky99]

Did everyone complaining about the team taking half measures miss the trade deadline last year?

 

Apparently.

[JFD]

horrid contract.

[Spanky99]

Oh, I understand now. Yes, you're right! However, it doesn't really address my point, which is that the elite performers in her field - of which she is among - are not compensated or appreciated as much as the elite performers in David Price's field. I understand the money part is just supply and demand, and all that; however, some people here have made the argument that David Price is one of about 5 people in the world who can do what he does. My friend is 1 of 3 people in the world with a high level of expertise in her field, and she's literally the only person in the world with a high level expertise specifically related to children. So, the supply is low, and the demand for her expertise is pretty high - 1 in 3000 people are affected with the disorder - although, it's nothing close to the North American demand for baseball entertainment, so again, I understand. It just puts a bad taste in my mouth, that's all.

 

Another way to look at it, 50-100 years from now, people will be citing her research, and looking at her therapies as a cornerstone of what lead to a dramatic increase in the quality of life for 1 in 3000 people, while nobody will give a crap about David Price because baseball will either be declining in popularity, or be played by robots. So, there's that. Ha ha!

 

Is that up to David Price kang, is it?

 

f*** man get a grip.

 

Society as a whole doesn't work like that?

 

Catch the hospital science on the flip side.

[crmr]

Oh, I understand now. Yes, you're right! However, it doesn't really address my point, which is that the elite performers in her field - of which she is among - are not compensated or appreciated as much as the elite performers in David Price's field. I understand the money part is just supply and demand, and all that; however, some people here have made the argument that David Price is one of about 5 people in the world who can do what he does. My friend is 1 of 3 people in the world with a high level of expertise in her field, and she's literally the only person in the world with a high level expertise specifically related to children. So, the supply is low, and the demand for her expertise is pretty high - 1 in 3000 people are affected with the disorder - although, it's nothing close to the North American demand for baseball entertainment, so again, I understand. It just puts a bad taste in my mouth, that's all.

 

Another way to look at it, 50-100 years from now, people will be citing her research, and looking at her therapies as a cornerstone of what lead to a dramatic increase in the quality of life for 1 in 3000 people, while nobody will give a crap about David Price because baseball will either be declining in popularity, or be played by robots. So, there's that. Ha ha!

 

Just out of curiosity here, despite being 1 of 3 people in the world with high expertise, has your friend actually done anything of significant accomplishment related to the disease?

 

Edit for clarification: By significant accomplishment I don't mean publications in top journals (there are lots of these in every field every month), I mean accomplishments which would garner her potential for a Nobel prize in some years? Because that is approximately David Price's equivalence to the medical research field

[art_vandelay275]

Yeah, I was really worried about his financial future before this deal.

 

funny .. i would've thought your response would've been "rejoice with those with rejoice, weep with those who weep"

[Spanky99]

It seems as though you think I'm more offended by all of this than I actually am...

 

Not really, just to your friend and there job.

[crmr]

It's possible, yes. Honestly, I don't want to give too many details because I don't want you to figure out who she is. She wouldn't like that. Basically, she discovered a problem in this population of people that nobody had been aware of previously. She researched the problem, defined it more accurately, and she is now working on more research to develop further therapies. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that she will definitely earn a Nobel, but it is definitely possible for her several years from now.

 

I assume this population refers to the entire world, Europe, North America or an entire continent and not a group of people on some island/specific country. While your story isn't particularly believable (Nobel prize track people tend to earn significant salaries at top institutions, and typically important areas garner enough funding to support more than 3 experts), it is interesting.

[Spanky99]

It's possible, yes. Honestly, I don't want to give too many details because I don't want you to figure out who she is. She wouldn't like that. Basically, she discovered a problem in this population of people that nobody had been aware of previously. She researched the problem, defined it more accurately, and she is now working on more research to develop further therapies. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that she will definitely earn a Nobel, but it is definitely possible for her several years from now.

 

Now, that would be awesome.