Offseason Roster Thread

[gbill2004]

Nats will give the difference between Revere and Storen's arb

 

Are you positive it was the difference, or was it a straight $2 million?

[Cyborg]

Having Delabar on board for only 800k is a good choice. The guy still throws hard and can be a mop-up guy at worst.

 

2.9 million for a dead guy is absurd

What makes you think he's dead? $2.9M for a 2 WAR LF is great.

[Cyborg]

Are you positive it was the difference, or was it a straight $2 million?

It was to make the salaries equal, I believe.

[G-Snarls]

It was to make the salaries equal, I believe.

 

Shi Davidi

 

Two notes on Drew Storen:

 

He gets $50k at each of 35/45/55 games finished;

 

#Nationals are to send #BlueJays difference from Revere salary

[Angrioter]

Saunders feels like an overpayment. The dude played like 10 games last year

....but the upside. I don't want to see you cheering for him in october.

[glory]

$1.05m for Loup. Jays have gone over MLBTR's projection on nearly everyone so far (Saunders got the same as projected).

[HERPDERP]

What makes you think he's dead? $2.9M for a 2 WAR LF is great.

 

Because he's missing nearly half his knee. He's no longer the same athlete he once was.

[G-Snarls]

$1.05m for Loup. Jays have gone over MLBTR's projection on nearly everyone so far (Saunders got the same as projected).

 

f***

 

And it looks like Donaldson will likely go to arbitration

[Angrioter]

storen was projected to get $8.8 million. the nats saved half a million.

 

iftfy

[Cyborg]

Because he's missing nearly half his knee. He's no longer the same athlete he once was.

Why don't you wait until he starts playing before assuming?

[KingKat]

The Jays would know more about Saunders health than any of us. If he were truly f***ed, they would have cut him. Now that doesn't mean we shoudn't be cautious in our expectations but if the Jays felt comfortable not only paying him but also jettisoning Revere than there's got to be SOMETHING there.

[burlingtonbandit]

$1.05m for Loup. Jays have gone over MLBTR's projection on nearly everyone so far (Saunders got the same as projected).

 

Either MLBTR lowballed the Jays players or whoever is handling the arb. on the Jays is doing a bad job. Couple hundred K doesn't seem like much but when you do that for 4 or 5 players it can be the difference of a decent reliever.

[rydermike]

Shi Davidi

 

Two notes on Drew Storen:

 

He gets $50k at each of 35/45/55 games finished;

 

#Nationals are to send #BlueJays difference from Revere salary

 

So we should see the following, Jays have 12 run lead, 2 outs in 9th inning, bring in Storen just to make the Nats spend more money lol

(fyi not serious, I'm not advocating potentially wasting his arm in games that do not matter)

[glory]

Either MLBTR lowballed the Jays players or whoever is handling the arb. on the Jays is doing a bad job. Couple hundred K doesn't seem like much but when you do that for 4 or 5 players it can be the difference of a decent reliever.

 

They beat Storen's projection but they get reimbursed the difference between Storen and Revere anyway.

 

So far, they have lost a little under $700k between actual and projected figures for Cecil, Saunders, Delabar, and Loup. I won't count Smoak since they may have been factoring his projected arb total from 2015 before he got non-tendered into the equation, in which case MLBTR would have lowballed that.

[nmrch]

Either MLBTR lowballed the Jays players or whoever is handling the arb. on the Jays is doing a bad job. Couple hundred K doesn't seem like much but when you do that for 4 or 5 players it can be the difference of a decent reliever.

 

Is this happening with non Jays players as well? The higher than normal inflation we're seeing might be creeping into the arbitration process a little bit too.

[HERPDERP]

Why don't you wait until he starts playing before assuming?

 

It's better to be surprised rather than get excited and let down.

[burlingtonbandit]

They beat Storen's projection but they get reimbursed the difference between Storen and Revere anyway.

 

So far, they have lost a little under $700k between actual and projected figures for Cecil, Saunders, Delabar, and Loup. I won't count Smoak since they may have been factoring his projected arb total from 2015 before he got non-tendered into the equation, in which case MLBTR would have lowballed that.

 

I think giving Smoak 3.9 was still a mistake even if the projected arb. was incorrect. Seems if they non-tendered him they could of got him for 3 Million or less. There really wasn't a FA market for Smoak.

[Ehjays]

The Jays would know more about Saunders health than any of us. If he were truly f***ed, they would have cut him. Now that doesn't mean we shoudn't be cautious in our expectations but if the Jays felt comfortable not only paying him but also jettisoning Revere than there's got to be SOMETHING there.

 

I thought I saw a tweet about a week ago from 1 of the Toronto writers that Saunders was ready, feels great. Hes has been working out with no side affects.

[Ehjays]

It was from Mr Wilner

 

Mike Wilner ‏@Wilnerness590 Jan 9

Michael Saunders says his knee feels great, like he never had surgery. Already running and ready to go. #Bluejays

[Boxcar]

It was from Mr Wilner

 

Mike Wilner ‏@Wilnerness590 Jan 9

Michael Saunders says his knee feels great, like he never had surgery. Already running and ready to go. #Bluejays

 

Said every player coming off injury ever

[Angrioter]

Said every player coming off injury ever

 

Rocco Baldelli "I feels great, like never had surgery."

[Frenchsoup]

I think giving Smoak 3.9 was still a mistake even if the projected arb. was incorrect. Seems if they non-tendered him they could of got him for 3 Million or less. There really wasn't a FA market for Smoak.

 

You need Smoak on the team. You can't trust CC to give you half of what he gave you last year, he's not that good of a baseball player. You want EE to be the DH, 1st base as a last resort.

[DerangedIdoit]

Rocco Baldelli "I feels great, like never had surgery."

 

'Tis but a scratch

[jays_fever]

'Tis but a scratch

 

But you have no arms!

[Captain Adama]

But you have no arms!

 

It's just a flesh wound!

[burlingtonbandit]

You need Smoak on the team. You can't trust CC to give you half of what he gave you last year, he's not that good of a baseball player. You want EE to be the DH, 1st base as a last resort.

 

That does not mean you have to give him 3.9 Million...

[AncientDiety]

The Jays would know more about Saunders health than any of us. If he were truly f***ed, they would have cut him. Now that doesn't mean we shoudn't be cautious in our expectations but if the Jays felt comfortable not only paying him but also jettisoning Revere than there's got to be SOMETHING there.

 

Yeah but the real burning question is what does Lind's mom think?

[Frenchsoup]

That does not mean you have to give him 3.9 Million...

 

Well... the Jays know the numbers better then we do. That seems like a fair price to me, especially considering he only made 1 million last year.

[burlingtonbandit]

Well... the Jays know the numbers better then we do. That seems like a fair price to me, especially considering he only made 1 million last year.

 

I just don't see how Smoak had leverage in negotiations. Of all the teams needing 1st baseman the Blue Jays were the best opportunity. If the Jays offered 2.5 or 3 Million Smoak likely takes that.

[Boxcar]

Why don't you wait until he starts playing before assuming?

 

Would require brain usage. He's gotta keep that to a minimum.