Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[jerb]

 

Brennan Delaney

@Brennan_L_D

 

#BlueJays fans may have missed this, but CJ Van Eyk underwent Tommy John and will miss the 2022 season.

[Spanky99]

 

Brennan Delaney

@Brennan_L_D

 

#BlueJays fans may have missed this, but CJ Van Eyk underwent Tommy John and will miss the 2022 season.

 

f*** man, how was this under wraps?

 

ETA:

 

CPB – We look back in your season. Ups and downs, as you mentioned, but it looked like things were really starting to turn around for you in the month of August. Your last outing—two innings, two perfect innings—before you had to leave and then shortly after (you were) put on the injured list to end the year but it looks like you were figuring stuff out in August. How are you doing right now?

 

CJVE – I’m doing good. Yeah, that’s what everyone says kind of you know, finish better than you started. I’m glad we were turning in the right direction but then yeah, I tore my UCL and I got put on the injured list out of that start. I’m doing good right now. I mean, month three of rehab, I had surgery on September 20th. So I’m on my almost month three of rehab and we’re trucking along. It’s not bad.

 

https://csplusbaseball.ca/2021/12/13/cs-chat-2021-vancouver-canadians-rhp-15-cj-van-eyk-zoom-edition/

 

Hasn't been mentioned anywhere else on the web?

Edited February 21, 2022 by Spanky99

[Ehjays]

 

brennan delaney

@brennan_l_d

 

#bluejays fans may have missed this, but cj van eyk underwent tommy john and will miss the 2022 season.

 

ffs!!!

[Deadpool]

f*** man, how was this under wraps?

 

 

 

https://csplusbaseball.ca/2021/12/13/cs-chat-2021-vancouver-canadians-rhp-15-cj-van-eyk-zoom-edition/

 

Hasn't been mentioned anywhere else on the web?

 

Surgery was in September? Honestly, wouldn't be too surprising if he was back on the mound sometime this year. The recovery time from TJS is getting shorter and shorter. Of course, with someone that far away, there's no need to rush.

[Krylian]

 

Brennan Delaney

@Brennan_L_D

 

#BlueJays fans may have missed this, but CJ Van Eyk underwent Tommy John and will miss the 2022 season.

 

Well. He has been pretty underwhelming since we drafted him. Hopefully this gives him renewed life.

[Spanky99]

Well. He has been pretty underwhelming since we drafted him. Hopefully this gives him renewed life.

 

That small sample likely tells you why? Might as well chuck them out the window.

[Krylian]

That small sample likely tells you why? Might as well chuck them out the window.

 

No. I think he should have the surgery first. The chucking can come later.

[Terminator]

Fangraphs Top 100 List came out today: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-top-100-prospects/

 

Moreno was #10 and OrElvis was #32. No other Jays made the Top 118.

 

Austin Martin was #56 and SWR didn't make the Top 118.

[Terminator]

Miguel Vargas of the Dodgers didn't make the list which shocked me. I think he was Top 36 on BA's list but Longenhagen had the following to say in his chat:

 

Tom

1:59 Miguel Vargas missed the top 100 despite finding his power last year and crushing AA pitching at age 21. ZiPS projects him as an average big-league regular 3B this year (2.4 WAR at age 22), and Steamer's projections are significantly more optimistic for this year. What am I missing?

 

Eric A Longenhagen

2:00 I have the guy's airborne max exits velos as 105mph

[John_Havok]

Fangraphs Top 100 List came out today: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2022-top-100-prospects/

 

Moreno was #10 and OrElvis was #32. No other Jays made the Top 118.

 

Austin Martin was #56 and SWR didn't make the Top 118.

 

Writeups on the Jays:

 

10. Gabriel Moreno, C, TOR

 

Age 22.0 Height 5′ 11″ Weight 210 Bat / Thr R / R FV 60

 

Tool Grades (Present/Future)

 

Hit..........Raw Power.....Game Power......Run.....Fielding......Throw

55/60.......50/50..........40/45..............50/50.....45/50.......50

 

The most athletic catcher to come along since J.T. Realmuto, Moreno’s 2021 power output was a bit of a caricature, but his bat-to-ball ability is real and spectacular.

 

As much as any prospect could break out during the dark 2020 minor league season, Moreno broke out. He was fairly well-regarded coming out of 2019, then was seen on alternate site video, during instructs, and later in the Venezuelan Winter League, where he hit .373/.471/.508. The length of his year was as close as any catching prospect came to replicating a full season behind the dish in 2020, and there was already enough buzz at that point for us to include Moreno on last year’s Top 100. Then 2021 began and Moreno started on an epic tear, slugging .650 at Double-A New Hampshire before missing a couple of months with a fractured thumb. He ended up playing in just shy of 40 regular season games, then picked up reps during the Arizona Fall and Venezuelan Winter Leagues.

 

The visual evaluation of Moreno’s power does not support the idea that he can slug .500, his career mark. One could argue that’s because he was most widely seen coming off a hand injury that might dilute his power, but his batted ball data from before the injury also indicates his Double-A output was inflated. You can’t fake an 11% strikeout rate, though, which is Moreno’s career mark. While he’s an aggressive hitter who sometimes takes fundamentally unsound swings, he has 70-grade bat control and tends to find a way to poke, spray, and slash contact all over the field. He can square high-end velocity, and though his overall hit tool grade projects below his raw barrel control due to his flawed approach, there’s enough offense to make him an All-Star offensive performer at catcher. He also has rare speed for the position and has an overall skill set like that of a less-toolsy Jason Kendall. Defensively, Moreno catches on one knee until there are runners on or there are two strikes, then sets up in a very wide crouch as if he’s always preparing to block a breaking ball in the dirt. He’ll sometimes finish on one knee in an effort to frame a pitch on the edge, even if he didn’t start there. He popped in the 1.95-1.98 range during Fall League, a slightly above-average range of times for throws down to second base.

 

 

 

 

32. Orelvis Martinez, 3B, TOR

Signed: July 2nd Period, 2018 from Dominican Republic (TOR)

 

Age 20.3 Height 6′ 1″ Weight 195 Bat / Thr R / R FV 55

 

Tool Grades (Present/Future)

Hit...........Raw Power..Game Power......Run.........Fielding........Throw

30/45.......50/60........35/60...............45/40.......30/45..........55

 

One of the most significant talents in the 2018 international class, Martinez projects as a prototypical power-hitting third baseman.

 

After destroying Low-A, Martinez posted a league-average batting line during a month at High-A Vancouver, which would be impressive even without a .197 BABIP anchoring his line. Before the promotion, he had more than a 10% barrel rate at Low-A and his top exit velocity was over 110 mph. Between that and a pretty healthy walk and strikeout mix, you have the foundation of a very impressive offensive talent. If anything, the visual report glows even brighter than the statistics. A tick above six-feet tall, Martinez is a chiseled athlete with explosive rotational ability. His bat-to-ball skills are advanced for a High-A hitter, never mind the youngest one in the league. He also adapted very quickly to the circuit’s better arms, bashing nine homers and walking six times in his final nine games after an uneasy start.

 

Like any 19-year-old, there is some risk in the profile. Hit tool volatility is one potential variable: Martinez’s current timing mechanism leaves him vulnerable to soft stuff and he’ll lunge at quality breaking balls if he’s expecting something else. He also thinks he can drive anything in on his hands, and while he’s often right, pitchers can induce defensive swings if they’re able to get in his kitchen. Some of the contact he makes is thus very soft when he gets off-balance, which leaves lingering questions about how his approach will fare against a steadier diet of better breaking balls. And defensively, he’s a little raw for short. His hands weren’t great in former contributor Brendan Gawlowski’s looks last season, and while he’s quick under way, a slow first step suggests that a move down the defensive spectrum is likely as he physically matures; we have Martinez projected to third base. Ultimately, though, this is a great athlete who has performed as a teenager against much older competition. The bat should play anywhere, and if he’s able to stick on the left side of the infield, he has an All-Star ceiling.

[Spanky99]

Gray-Rod over J-Rod??? Jim's going to s*** himself.

[Jimcanuck]

Gray-Rod over J-Rod??? Jim's going to s*** himself.

 

And smeared it all over my face

[Spanky99]

And smeared it all over my face

 

lol

[max silver]

lol

 

Jim made a funny.

[connorp]

God damnit. Josh Jung going to miss most of season. Sob

[L54]

God damnit. Josh Jung going to miss most of season. Sob

 

Damn that sucks. That Rangers infield was going to be pretty fun to watch this year.

[Ehjays]

[Spanky99]

 

Bringing the Cheese!!!

[jerb]

[John_Havok]

Looks like Tiedemann is the Jays system helium candidate for the year given all the reports we've seen over the winter.

[Krylian]

Looks like Tiedemann is the Jays system helium candidate for the year given all the reports we've seen over the winter.

 

I think Beltre will have a big season too.

Edited February 28, 2022 by Krylian

[Daniel Labude]

https://www.mlb.com/news/ricky-tiedemann-looks-to-impress-at-blue-jays-minicamp?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

[Deadpool]

https://www.mlb.com/news/ricky-tiedemann-looks-to-impress-at-blue-jays-minicamp?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage

 

That's great to hear about the new facility. And that word will spread quickly, which can only be good for the Jays positioning with draftees and IFAs.

[z3r0s]

That's great to hear about the new facility. And that word will spread quickly, which can only be good for the Jays positioning with draftees and IFAs.

 

Great to hear for IFA's, and just from a development perspective. All these guys are essentially lottery tickets, so its amazing to hear they are focusing on improving their odds in any way they can. Even something as small as food programs on the site. Kids don't always know how to eat well, so why not be a part of developing that. Could be huge.

 

Pretty small investment if even a few of these guys go up a level compared to what they otherwise would have been.

[Daniel Labude]

 

[Daniel Labude]

 

[Jimcanuck]

Orelvis looks like he's filled out a good bit

[Laika]

"He’s still working back toward the low-90s, but it’s all about reps and staying healthy for now. #BlueJays"

 

So Pardinho is throwing poo.

[Jimcanuck]

"He’s still working back toward the low-90s, but it’s all about reps and staying healthy for now. #BlueJays"

 

So Pardinho is throwing poo.

 

Future reliever, 5-10%

[Laika]

yeah I could see him being a 7th SP or decent reliever if he can become some sort of spin king and hit like 93+ in short bursts