Official MiLB/Prospects Thread

[Terminator]

How many of you think the blue jays are being run bad by the jays management team.

Year number two and the jays have done nothing to get better. And all the other teams have improved greatly.

 

I don't think they are doing a bad job but they have made mistakes.

 

AA left them with a good but old team that had a 1 year window of contention.They capitalized on that one year but almost no matter what they did last was that core team good enough to get them to the playoffs. Thank god they realized that and didn't saddle the team with a bunch of bad contracts.

 

I think the plan right now is to try and remain competitive without hurting the future. Let Martin and Tulo's contracts fall off the books without adding anything too significant. When Vlad Jr. and Bo are up we might see them be more aggressive. Focus on drafting and player development.

[Brownie19]

How many of you think the blue jays are being run bad by the jays management team.

Year number two and the jays have done nothing to get better. And all the other teams have improved greatly.

 

I struggle to see how you think the Marlins have improved greatly.

[jays_fever]

MLB is a unique organization where 29 teams can all improve in 1 off season. Maybe they'll all be over .500 next yr and set a record!

[Krylian]

I struggle to see how you think the Marlins have improved greatly.

 

I think he means the Yankees. Cause they are all the other teams.

[glory]

I don't think they are doing a bad job but they have made mistakes.

 

AA left them with a good but old team that had a 1 year window of contention.They capitalized on that one year but almost no matter what they did last was that core team good enough to get them to the playoffs. Thank god they realized that and didn't saddle the team with a bunch of bad contracts.

 

I think the plan right now is to try and remain competitive without hurting the future. Let Martin and Tulo's contracts fall off the books without adding anything too significant. When Vlad Jr. and Bo are up we might see them be more aggressive. Focus on drafting and player development.

 

Yeah I see the team treading water for a few years, with short term vets holding down positions until prospects are ready to take over. Maybe they luck into a wild card spot over the span, but it's going to be more of an organic rebuild.

[jays4life19]

Write up on the Jays in the Rule 5 Draft

 

Max Pentecost, C, Blue Jays

Usually the injury list is the purview of pitchers, but Pentecost is the rare position player who easily qualifies. Pentecost was considered one of the best catchers in the 2014 draft class, but shoulder injuries have largely ruined his pro career so far. Pentecost has had two labrum surgeries and has caught only 30 games in three pro seasons, but when he's back there, he shows the potential to be an at least average catcher defensively and he still has an above-average arm. Scouts have long believed in the bat. Pentecost caught on back-to-back days for the first time in his pro career in the final days of the Arizona Fall League season. Teams will likely be scared off by his medical reports and he's yet to play above Class A, but he has more potential than almost anyone available in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Jordan Romano, RHP, Blue Jays

Romano's energetic delivery has kept him from ever showing even average control, but his 92-96 mph fastball (he's touched higher) has plenty of run. He missed all of 2015 because of Tommy John surgery and he's yet to pitch above high Class A, but his arm is excellent.

 

Emerson Jimenez, RHP, Blue Jays

Jimenez was a shortstop in the Rockies' system when the 2017 season began. Now he's a very raw, but intriguing power arm reliever who has been clocked at 94-99 mph with a surprisingly advanced changeup.

 

Roemen Fields, OF, Blue Jays

Fields is a speedster who can cover ground in the outfield, swipe a base and slap the ball around the infield and outfield. He's a backup outfielder, but after posting a .355 OBP in Triple-A, the team in the right situation could be intrigued.

[Pendleton]

Write up on the Jays in the Rule 5 Draft

 

Max Pentecost, C, Blue Jays

Usually the injury list is the purview of pitchers, but Pentecost is the rare position player who easily qualifies. Pentecost was considered one of the best catchers in the 2014 draft class, but shoulder injuries have largely ruined his pro career so far. Pentecost has had two labrum surgeries and has caught only 30 games in three pro seasons, but when he's back there, he shows the potential to be an at least average catcher defensively and he still has an above-average arm. Scouts have long believed in the bat. Pentecost caught on back-to-back days for the first time in his pro career in the final days of the Arizona Fall League season. Teams will likely be scared off by his medical reports and he's yet to play above Class A, but he has more potential than almost anyone available in the Rule 5 draft.

 

Jordan Romano, RHP, Blue Jays

Romano's energetic delivery has kept him from ever showing even average control, but his 92-96 mph fastball (he's touched higher) has plenty of run. He missed all of 2015 because of Tommy John surgery and he's yet to pitch above high Class A, but his arm is excellent.

 

Emerson Jimenez, RHP, Blue Jays

Jimenez was a shortstop in the Rockies' system when the 2017 season began. Now he's a very raw, but intriguing power arm reliever who has been clocked at 94-99 mph with a surprisingly advanced changeup.

 

Roemen Fields, OF, Blue Jays

Fields is a speedster who can cover ground in the outfield, swipe a base and slap the ball around the infield and outfield. He's a backup outfielder, but after posting a .355 OBP in Triple-A, the team in the right situation could be intrigued.

 

Jimenez has definitely slipped my radar to this point, sounds like a pretty interesting project.

[jays4life19]

Jimenez has definitely slipped my radar to this point, sounds like a pretty interesting project.

 

Yeah. I don't think he's going to get drafted though but he's someone to keep an eye on for sure.

[Spanky__99]

Jimenez has definitely slipped my radar to this point, sounds like a pretty interesting project.

 

Yeah. I don't think he's going to get drafted though but he's someone to keep an eye on for sure.

 

How did we acquire him?

[Pendleton]

How did we acquire him?

 

http://toronto.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2017/09/20/blue-jays-2017-farm-system-in-review-the-pitchers/

 

"Another converted position player (like Carlos Ramirez), he reached A ball in the Seattle system, and landed briefly on Colorado’s AA squad this year but was released in May. The Jays signed him and dropped him into the GCL to learn to pitch and, well, he’s apparently a quicker study than Ramirez (who took a couple of years to master location). In 15 IP over nine appearances he surrendered six hits and five walks – and struck out 23. If there’s a guy in the system who could wear three or four different uniforms next year, it is probably this guy.

[Bobthe4th]

 

Pentecost is made of glass.

[KingKat]

 

Pentecost is made of glass.

 

Protecting Tellez over him worked out fine in the end. No one wanted Pentecost and we did see a 1B only player get selected though Mike Ford is probably a much, much better bet to produce than Tellez anyways so I doubt it would have made a difference.

[Krylian]

 

Pentecost is made of glass.

 

I think he's taking over from Samuel L Jackson and will be playing the title character in M Night Shyamalan's next movie... Glass.

[glory]

I don't know why anyone thought there was even a chance he (Pentecost) would get taken. Has barely played the field the last couple of years, only reached A+, and will be 25 on opening day. Hopefully the Jays have given up on him being a catcher. He may not hit enough to play anywhere else, but no way that guy will stay healthy enough to be a catcher long term.

[Krylian]

I hope he was smart with his signing bonus.

[KingKat]

I don't know why anyone thought there was even a chance he (Pentecost) would get taken. Has barely played the field the last couple of years, only reached A+, and will be 25 on opening day. Hopefully the Jays have given up on him being a catcher. He may not hit enough to play anywhere else, but no way that guy will stay healthy enough to be a catcher long term.

 

Well a third catcher who can cover a few other positions can be a nice edge of the roster asset but you're right that it's a largely theoretical appeal. In practical terms, his career development is completely stalled. He'll probably never stay on the field as a catcher and he'll probably never hit enough to be worth anything anywhere else.

[Ehjays]

https://www.milb.com/milb/news/vladimir-guerrero-jr-bo-bichette-lead-toronto-blue-jays-organization-all-stars/c-263689728

 

Just a nice little article on some up and coming young Jays Prospects. Which is always nice to read....especially in this slow off season.

[P2F]

12:20

Tom: I just want to say, I am thrilled that you and Kiley will be teaming up.

 

12:21

Eric A Longenhagen: Me too.

 

12:21

Wandering Bystander: What are the odds we see a weekly Eric & Kiley podcast?

 

12:21

Eric A Longenhagen: High

 

[Dr. Dinger]

Did anyone post the BA Top 10 for the Jays yet? Apparently they put an 80 hit 70 power on Vlad.

[THANOS]

Did anyone post the BA Top 10 for the Jays yet? Apparently they put an 80 hit 70 power on Vlad.

 

It's in our Forum Top Prospects thread!

[jays4life19]

Did anyone post the BA Top 10 for the Jays yet? Apparently they put an 80 hit 70 power on Vlad.

 

http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/threads/8070-BJMB-Top-10-Bluejays-Prospects/page3

[Ray]

Bill (Delaware): Is Vlad Jr/Bichette the best duo atop a top 10 list? How do they stack up to the Red's Senzel/Greene, ChiSox Eloy/Kopech, Padres Tatis/Gore?

 

Ben Badler: I'd take Vladdy and Bichette over any other 1-2 in the game.

[P2F]

Bill (Delaware): Is Vlad Jr/Bichette the best duo atop a top 10 list? How do they stack up to the Red's Senzel/Greene, ChiSox Eloy/Kopech, Padres Tatis/Gore?

 

Ben Badler: I'd take Vladdy and Bichette over any other 1-2 in the game.

 

Bah gawd

[Spanky__99]

Bah gawd

 

Waiting for 3:16 music, lol.

[Orgfiller]

Vlad/Bichette is the best core since Strasburg/Harper.

 

 

 

 

Just kidding, Bo isn't a pitcher prone to TJS. They're better.

[Todd]

Which teen SS prospect would you rather have: #Padres' 18-year-old Fernando Tatis Jr. or #BlueJays' 19-year-old Bo Bichette? Form blue jaysbanter

To me this is a easy one.

BO.

What do you think?

[P2F]

Tatis, and it's probably not that close.

[jays4life19]

Tatis, and it's probably not that close.

 

I think it's close but yeah I would go with Tatis.

[P2F]

I think it's close but yeah I would go with Tatis.

 

I'm probably the high guy on Tatis.

[jays4life19]

I'm probably the high guy on Tatis.

 

Gore or Greene?

 

I've got Gore.